Where in my post did I say don't lynch Jack or that I think he shouldn't be lynched? I said nobody else vote until we've at least heard from GT, and do I really need to explain to you why it's a downright dumb move for town to lynch somebody and end the day without first hearing from everybody about their night actions, especially GT's which may prove invaluable towards finding scum?ReaperCharlie wrote:You seem pretty interested in protecting Jack here. Why?totallynotmafia wrote:Can nobody else please place a vote until we've at least heard from GroupThink?
And now that Groupthink has weighed in, what do you think of the Jack lynch?
And yet here you seem to think that it's an inevitability that Jack will flip.totallynotmafia wrote:Anyway, it's a lot of speculation at the moment and I think we'll learn a lot more when Jack flips.
Not that I disagree with lynching Jack, but you appear to be flip-flopping on whether you want him lynched now or later.
If you aren't striving to lynch scum, you aren't playing pro-town.
You're blatantly misrepping me here, which is probably a move by you to paint somebody else as Jack's scumbuddy, seeing as if he is scum then there's a pretty big possibility he was protecting you by not targetting you and claiming to be roleblocked.
Why are you in such a rush to end the day?
We still haven't heard from CML, as well as others haven't given their opinions on who they think is scum yet.
I already stated that I was thinking the exact same thing as kdub in his post:
But the only problem is Magna was actually showing suspicions of Jack towards the end of the day, so it's plausible he may have RBed Jack in order to prevent him performing a kill. However, as I also said the fact that Magna was mainly suspicious of RC would make it unlikely that Magna would RB Jack when he was going to vig RC. Perhaps I should have said for this reason I'm leaning towards Jack being scummy for people who can't read between the lines.Kdub wrote:I motivated Faraday.
Since both the mafia and SK kills went through, that means either Jack was roleblocked by Magna, or Jack is lying. No other role could have interfered with Jack's action in a way that would have stopped it altogether. Magna was voting RC yesterday and sided with Jack, so I see no reason why he would have blocked Jack.
Vote: Jack
I'm pretty positive Jack isn't the SK, because as SK he would have no motivation to go back on his word and not vig RC, and the SK can't have been role blocked because the kill went through.
I must say though, and at the risk of defending possible scum (which I'm sure RC will pounce on), I'm struggling to see the motive for scum Jack to go back on his word and not vig RC...I mean it's pretty obvious that people are going to suspect him if he doesn't do it, and what benefit is it for him/his team? If RC is scum then sure he's protected him but it's pretty bloody blatant and he'd be better off with the bus and keeping his word. If RC is town then he's preventing the information from RC's flip, but is this really worth going back on his word and looking scummy when he could keep his word and have one more dead townie? Sure, Jack's plan could have been to blame it on Magna roleblocking but scum didn't target Magna, so he would have risked Magna denying it the next day. Jack also could blame it on Starbuck, but again SB would just deny it the next day.
I really want to give this more thought...I mean I don't particularly like Jack's posting today anyway, he says SB could have redirected his kill to magna, but that case is impossible as it would have become a protect instead of a kill. I don't know, perhaps Magna DID roleblock Jack but Jack is still scum and it has totally screwed him over. Or perhaps Jack just didn't fully think about his plan to blame not vigging RC on somebody else. Anyway, the day is still early and there's no need to lynch anyone yet.
@GroupThink: I think you should absolutely use the sensor tonight as there is no guarantee CML will still be around after that to protect you.
