Fuck.
@Ooba.
I told you. Lynchers in this game = double edged sword. If we lynch the GF, scum lose their
generally known as a kill immune and investigation immune person
and lynchers leave the game.
If we have only scum killing, thats a 4 person turn over (1 from GF, 2 leave with lynchers, 1 from NK if it goes through).
5 if we have more then one killing role (highly likely) and it increases by 1 per extra killer.
Finally:
Ooba wrote:Not sure if DTM shares the same wincon and conditions as tar; but I am guessing that's the case. Just realized that our best play is to not allow Tar and DTM anywhere near a lynch. If we lynch the GF without them, then its two extra town -> might give us that extra mislynch.
I don't like this. If we are true claiming lynchers, and the GF dies without us. If one of us flips you gained
confirmed town
why would you want that as an extra mislynch? You'd gain a meat shield because:
a lyncher who fails to lynch correctly becomes confirmed town instead.
It's better play to deal with lyncher issue early, and kill the GF early, rather then leave the lynchers late in the game to have the 4+ player turn over for scum.
Hence Tar's time limit.
Scum hunting, then trying to avoid lynchers voting is just a waste of time and makes your scum hunting totally ineffective. If you are going to force the lyncher issue by lynching us, well you've become all sorts of scummy.
That gives the same result as a 4 person turn over as if you killed the GF normally, but wastes two lynches. So deal: we'll be scum hunting, and we'll be voting.
@Ort
V.V. Frustrated townie? This is a blow up post. If I didn't find your posts in the GD i'd believe it alone. This is your only game that I could find, and you died for idiotic reasons in the other ongoing game (man who lynches uncounterclaimed masons >>).
Anyways. I get good vibes from this. I see why Ort is frustrated since in the previous ongoing game, he got lynched for very, very, very, very, idiotic reasons.
@SK
I don't see how this argument is better for CMAR, then Ort.
CMAR CASE and ORT CASE: We have evidence that both players posted outside of the game, during the game. We called both out on it.
Some how in CMAR: He's just catching up, even though he posted in games. Other games. 3 of them ongoing. 2 of them just finished recently. This isn't active lurking.
Somehow in Ort: He's active lurking, lynch lynch , even though he only posted in GD.
@CMAR
I don't see it. Then we have CMAR soft claiming immortal.
Dude, if you are seriously town immortal, don't soft claim it. It's like saying you're SK, and scum shouldn't shoot you. I'd rather see you soft claim doctor, and soak in the scum kills at night if you're unkillable, unlynchable, blah blah blah. Totally defeats the purpose of that role from a town angle.
I retract my vote statement. I don't see it, the scum in Ort. I'd investigate it to be sure since I haven't seen scum AtE very often, but I've read one of the games he's been in. >>;;
@Mod
Can I link the ongoing game which I talk about, Ortlan is dead. However it does contain players in this game that are active in that game.
