Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[Fate]

Lol Hi Albatross.

If you want to keep your main hidden you need to actually attempt to hide your meta when you post *facepalm*

I won't say anymore though out of fellow-alt respect.

Anyway, Orto gets rope over Iec today FOR SURE. Iec is posting a helluva a lot and if I ISO him on D2 or D3 and it is a train wreck of a thought process and obvscum THEN he gets rope.

Orto doesn't get to come in, post horrible anti-town things and then have people say "well he hasn't posted enough to get a read" <---- THIS IS WHAT LETS SCUM LURK.

We're sending the message out loud in clear to people who think they can avoid this thread like its some low priority bullshit and say "DUN WORRY GUYS ILL POST NOW THAT IVE BEEN CALLED OUT"

YEAH IM LOOKIN AT YOU CMAR. U DED. U SO DED.

Oh Family Guy, you always help soothe the rage...

Where was I?

Orto? Rope? Manho actin scummy?

ZzzZzzZzz-"WHY THE FUCK IS ALBA DEFENDING CMAR!"ZzZzz

[Iecerint]

1. I guess so? (Even if the post-times make that a bad heuristic.)

2. But I'm voting for CMAR and have been for ages? So...I don't understand your point.

[Starbuck]

On Mina

Post 477 - Choose one what? I noticed you weaseling out of responding, but I also want you to be more concise with your posts. How is that so hard to understand?

We are also still waiting for your post about Iec that you promised forever ago, as well as your response to me.

On SaintKerrigan

@ Starbuck: Mind offering data that is more relevant to scumhunting, plz?

I feel that I have been when I can respond and be caught up.

I apologize if it's not up to snuff for you, but at least I put in the effort to be caught up on all my games.

On ABR

The thing is, Plum, that I find Iecerint pushing a false case on Mina. It doesn't seem like legitimate scumhunting to me. IDK maybe it's because I unconsciously see similarities in the style of play from Iecerint in this game and when he was scum with me before.

Can you elaborate on this?

Where did this happen?
Why does it make you feel this way?

On Faraday

Starbuck's scummy. it looks like she's sitting back and adding fuel to the Mina/SpyreX thing and sniping from the sidelines without trying to get her hands dirty.
460/6/8/471 being the posts in question.

I think SpyreX and Mina are both prob town and the way Starbuck is encouraging the vote from the sidelines looks scummy. it doesn't help that she's doing this instead of doing other, well better things like scumhunting. Her intitial reasons for voting Mina looked weak too.

You couldn't be more wrong. I feel that I am scumhunting. I do have to go back and start re-reading some people in ISO, but this game jumped another 15 pages during my V/LA over the weekend.

I don't feel that I am encouraging the vote from the sidelines at all. I'm the fucking quarterback. Do me a favor, and get it right.

On Fate

The first time you ever mention me is after Faraday's horrid attack on me. You are pretty quick to parrot that.

On DTMaster

Starbuck posted in another game on Saturday in its pregame stages, but nothing noteworthy. I'd say it's mild.

Starbuck posted V/LA in all of her games for Memorial Day weekend. You can find this game's post here.

V/LA stands for Vacation/Limited Access. I checked in and posted where things hadn't moved very far, but again this game jumped however fast again and I had no time to read and respond which is why I waited until today where I wouldn't be rushed.

Apparently, this is going to be a problem?



I'm up around page 25 and I have a meeting to go to. I'll be back in a bit.

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok, I'm back. Will read everything since I left, and post some thoughts. I wouldn't mind if someone helped me with a small summary... I have to read 15+ pages, so... yeah.

[Snow_Bunny]

Some thoughts:

Wait, so far, I've seen that Iec has a QT. Mina also has a QT (different from Iec's). So, what are the odds of having multiple non-scum factions that can talk?

Btw, Spyrex taking Iec's suggestion that scum can daytalk as true seems odd. Scummy++.

I'm liking totallynotmafia's 516. His case on Ort is quite good, and I'm liking it. However, I wouldn't discharge DTM just like that. Good post. His question to ABR is good as well.

I'm finding Iec's townish. And I don't see ABR's case on him. Not good enough.

Ugh, DTM posts way too much. It's hard to tell what's good and what's noise. Neutral on him. I had an early agressive townie read on him, but now I'm downing him to neutral. Sometimes it seems as if he's trying to find a lynch in every corner. Too trigger happy isn't very pro-town.

Ok, I reached page 25 and I think that's all for now. I'll be sending my worship vote now, as well. Also, a quick list of my stance on some players:

Scummy
Fate (scummy but leaning 3rd party. Scummy nonetheless.)
Ort

Neutral
ABR
Mina
DTM

Townish
Iec
Percy
Totallynotmafia
Tar (I'll believe his claim for now)

[dramonic]

From my personal experience with CMAR I don't think he's scum.
Anyways his play here when compared to Mafia in Mendo is pretty different.

[Percy]

Working on it. I'll get caught up soon.

[Iecerint]

@ SB, Mina posted about me a few pages ago. It's a huge, color-coded post, so I'm not sure how you missed it unless you missed an entire page or something.

I'll let her answer the other.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

[Mighty Orbots]

Zito had a great holiday weekend until the mosquito swarm, thanks for asking.

All right. Zito of MO, I'm looking at you (preferably, I'll take Troll if it must be so): How sure are you that SpyreX's scum read on Mina is off? You're just saying things, and sometimes there's reason for doing that, but I want a number before I'm comfortable with you saying things the way you've been doing.

I kinda like that. "Zito of MO." Like a title.

Oh, I'm fairly confident about Mina. Syreen-kiss confident, almost.


y halo thar Chronopie.

unvote: Iec

(DTM)

vote: manho

(Chrono)

Chrono, scumlist with reasoning plz. In the meantime, I'd invite everyone to look at him in iso.

P.S. Ort wagon is a good wagon that we support.

[SaintKerrigan]

Ketchup Post, Pt. 2

@ Fate: I've played with Nikscum before, too. I'm hardly ready to call him town.

I do agree with Nik regarding Katy though. I disagree with the idea that he's terrible scum.

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

(ort)

baa.

Dear god. I suspect Ort too, but this is just

awful

.

Fate, you know that I'm perfectly willing to follow your plays, except when I'm scum

(then I'm more likely to NK you)

Explain. Particularly the part in parentheses.

@ Tar: Elaboration would be good.

SaintKerrigan's Post 488 raises alarms for me (he apparently thinks that Fate looks scummy but won't be interested in voting for him) and he's spent a huge portion of his effort focused on how worship votes work compared to scumhunting

Psst! I'm not voting Fate because I think he's third party trying to off himself for an ability or wincon or something similar. Also, I've been doing a lot more than talking about worship vote stuff, and I've even dropped the matter. Pay attention, plz.

- SK is right when he says he was only responding to Fate. I retract my wincon slip case on SK.

What about this part of your case?

This is all you get about the worship benefits in the OP : “Generally more worship is a good thing for the group receiving it. “

Did you even read Spyrex's post where he talks about his role/abilities? In either event, why is this scummy?

I know you moved me to neutral, but I'd still like an answer to this, please.

SK, CMAR, Dramonic, etc. are scum as well, we get to them tomorrow.

You know, it's been a while. Refresh my mind on why I'm scum.

ALL THESE EGYPT+CHRISTIAN WORSHIPS MADE BY LESS THAN STELLAR NAMES MAKE ME ITCH. TELL ME WHY YOU DID NOT WORSHIP OLD GODS TO FLIP SPY INTO SOMETHING AWESOME.

Yeah I'll be voting Old Godsx2

1. Because I felt like it. *burp*

2. Explain the "x2" part of your worship vote.

I would also prefer if people don't worship the judea-christians.

Eh? Why?

I wonder if I should ask ABR to state who Sky is. If he fails to name someone on my list, that would mean he was just bluffing. It may also mean that he had been trying to support the theory that he was 3rd party.

Or you're off on your guesses/was pulling stuff out of your ass in the first place. Going dooooooown...

Do you think my interpretation of ABR and Sky is scummy, or just reaching? Because it sounds like the former, which I need you to explain to me.

Going towards scummy fast, because you're trying to use it to justify ABR = Sky = scum, when your whole theory is ridiculous and phony. The fact that you are trying to keep it alive is not helping you out...nor is your willingness to lynch CMAR. (Hint: His behavior does not make him scum at all.)

Opportunistic I am not. Finding the actual scums amongst gigantic walls of text I am.

Riiiiight...

DTM loses points for the CMAR vote.

I feel that I have been when I can respond and be caught up.

I apologize if it's not up to snuff for you, but at least I put in the effort to be caught up on all my games.

You certainly are doing more than other people here. I retract the point.

I'll be sending my worship vote now, as well.

For what group?

Unvote: DarkStalker
Vote: CryMeARiver

(Ortolan)

Three posts, lots of votes, and a five-day sabbatical with no posts here. Yeah, something's not right.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Fate: While you're at it, explain why CMAR and Dram are scum, too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Could be ortolan just forgot about this game.

[Albatross]

If you want to keep your main hidden you need to actually attempt to hide your meta when you post *facepalm*

I won't say anymore though out of fellow-alt respect.

Lol, you've already misguessed my main once, but whatevs.

Fine, we'll lynch Otrolan, but if he flips town THEN IEC GETS A SHINY NEW PAIR OF CEMENT SHOES! (Zomg lining up lynches.

fos: Albatross

)

[Iecerint]

Going towards scummy fast, because you're trying to use it to justify ABR = Sky = scum, when your whole theory is ridiculous and phony.

Uh, that is not at all my theory. My theory is that ABR is a different person from Sky, and that neither of them are scum. Way to fail at reading comprehension.

I'd say that I don't make crazy shit up as scum, but I did (appear to) do it one time in Disgaea. I thought I was actually correct, though. <_<

@ Alba, why would O flipping town make me more likely scum?

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: And even if that WERE my theory, I don't understand your incredulity.

Do you think ABR is obvtown? Do you think I'm lying about having a QT? Do you think I'm lying about Sky existing, or about details of his behavior?

Or do you think all that was accurate, but I was wrong to worry about Sky in light of his behavior? In which case, why do you think Sky's behavior didn't deserve scrutiny?

[Albert B. Rampage]

So did Sky come out and say who Sky was yet?

mod: prod ortolan

[Nikanor]

Plum, have you forgotten about me?
And I'm really not seeing why we're not lynching SK today. D:
Promise me we lynch him tomorrow.

[Iecerint]

Nope. That other player from my QT I mentioned still hasn't explicitly denied being Sky, either.

[Nikanor]

It's obviously Snow_Bunny, Iec.

[Iecerint]

What makes you think that? And why are you positing it openly when, to the extent that it is useful to do that, it's better to have ABR give who he implied he knew it was to help confirm him as (probably) innocuous 3rd party?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm town-aligned.

[Iecerint]

Do you know who Sky is, or were you just using context clues?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I do...

And I don't rat out people that could be on my side..

[Beholder]

Day 1, Vote Count 11

The Crumbling Waste

Within the core of Sanctuary the remnants begin their struggle anew...

1 Starbuck ( 0 ) -
2 Faraday ( 0 ) -
3 Albert B. Rampage ( 0 ) -
4 manho ( 0 ) - Mighty Orbots
5 dramonic ( 0 ) - Ortolan, S_B
6 chronopie ( 1 ) -
7 Fate ( 2 ) - Elscouta
8 ooba ( 0 ) -
9 Mighty Orbots ( 1 ) -
10 Parama ( 0 ) -
11 Plum ( 0 ) -
12 totallynotmafia ( 0 ) - Parama
13 SaintKerrigan ( 0 ) - Tar
14 Elscouta ( 1 ) -
15 DarkStalker ( 2 ) - CryMeARiver
16 Snow_Bunny ( 1 ) - Starbuck, ooba
17 Nikanor ( 2 ) -
18 Mina ( 1 ) -
19 SpyreX ( 0 ) -
20 Katy ( 0 ) -
21 Tarhalindur ( 0 ) -
22 Percy ( 0 ) - Percy
23 Albatross ( 0 ) - Iece, DTM
24 rajrhcpfreak ( 1 ) - DarkStalker
25 CryMeARiver ( 2 ) - Fate, Mina, Plum, SpyreX, totallynotmafia, Nikatar, Chroniepie, raj, Faraday, albatross, SaintKerrigan
26 Iecerint ( 1 ) -
27 Ortolan ( 12 ) - Dramonic
28 DTMaster ( 0 ) -

Votes Required to Lynch: 15
Not Voting: 2

Several previous vote counts were wrong as I misplaced a mechanic. This VC should be correct though.

Additionally I'll perform an inactivity check within the next couple hours and prod as needed.

If needed the original deadline for this day would be around two weeks from now. I'll figure out the correct date and post it sometime soon-ish (likely the next Vote Count).