scotmany12 wrote:I claimed the Fonz's case on me to be weak for his analysis of my vote on Vas, which I strongly disagreed with, and his focus on me lurking.
Except that, y'know, both of these were fairly minor points: and I don't think I ever used the word 'lurking' to describe why I'm suspicious of you. My case on you, now as then, is that I expect a significant concentration of scum within those who were on neither scum wagon; everyone else in that category has given me some reason, however slight, to think they are town; a town-aiding action, an appearance of sincerity, etc. I see absolutely nothing from you that is better than a null-tell.
Basically, I'm concluding with regard to you is: you are someone who has some actions which look like scum might do them if they can get away with them, and you have fairly decent explanations of these. However what I don't see is any town-tells whatsoever, and some potentially scum-helping actions combined with reasonable-sounding explanations and no towntells says decent scum to me.
What I see of you is someone who criticised the mipe wagon, but didn't do any analysis of it; someone who, when offered the chance to join dahill and shanba in pushing ksun as a counterwagon to mipe, did not do so;
What you have done is try to make the argument about the precise timing of this or that vote, and focus in on the minutiae to try to discredit a case that's fairly broad, and simple: Your actions vis-a-vis mipe look like distancing from, rather than genuinely opposing, the wagon, Zoraster's attack on you and subsequently completely forgetting all about it looks like bussing, both times when you had an opportunity to vote for a scum with a reasonable chance of causing their lynch, you went for an alternative candidate.
Let's look at your posts while the mipewagon was rolling:
scotmany12 wrote:Yeah, I'm not liking the mipe wagon. Just seems like he is a player that doesn't really care, and that is not mutually exclusive with scum.
scotmany12 wrote:
I propose we look for scum. Not policy lynch someone who everyone is disappointed in. As quag has said, the goal is to find scum.
scotmany12 wrote:Anon wrote:Why do you think mipe is town?
Why do you think [mipe] is scum? Burden of proof lies on those trying to lynch him.
There's a lot of 'Yeah, this wagon is bad.' In fact, there's a lot of it throughout. Not 'this wagon is scumdriven' or 'Hey guys, how is this [mipe's actions] in any way as scummy as [other player's actions?] No 'I think X is opportunistic scum in his vote for mipe.'
There's also a fair bit of asking questions, and not really following through with them, which can be a sign of scum trying to appear active.