Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[Shotty to the Body]

I still don't get why farside thinks I'm accusing her of bussing. My theory was about her distancing with xvart, and attacking fishy because he's an opposing scum faction (of three legislature, executive etc). That is in no way her bussing fishy.

My guess is that she got confused because I worded it like "let's say farside is a member of the legislature and fishy is the judiciary" and farside actually is one of those and had that in mind when I was accusing her of bussing.

I'm confused. You seem to be one of the people arguing that we shouldn't lynch the 'non-hostile others' and that scum are riding these wagons (ala ISO 99). All your supposed scum-hunting on farside will accomplish, if you're even correct, is outing another non-hostile other... Therefore the purpose of this besides noise is...?

##unvote ##vote Jack

[Jack]

Do you object to the outing of non-hostile others? The point being is that those driving the fishy wagon probably have their own agenda. So we should focus on:

d3x
nico
pops

[Fishythefish]

Oh lets do more shit and giggles at this point
Oh fishy do you know the people that are in your group? If so will you answer honestly if people asked you if player X was part of your group? If not why? If so why?

- Yes. Sorry, that should be in the big list of claims.
- No, I won't answer either way. That's just the same as outing my group. And that's a bad idea because it means they are less likely to lynch scum, less likely to use night actions effectively and much less likely to survive unclaimed until endgame.
- Of course, if someone claimed to be a partner at L-1, trying to save themselves from the lynch, I'd probably confirm or deny it. There may be other circumstances when I'd confirm or deny a specific person as a partner, although none spring to mind.

A note on my repeated use of 6 as a number of points scoring people -
- My faction has at least two people.
- xvart was a member of his faction - which implies at least two people.
- I'm guessing the third faction isn't just a loner either.
But other than me having partner(s), I don't have any special information here - I'm just using 6 as a likely minimum for the number of point scorers.

[d3x]

ok, starting back on page 33. Sorry guys, this is going to be a biggun'. Also of note, I haven't read the thread before writing this, I'm typing as I read. Some of this stuff could very well be asked/answered by now.

@

Jack815

- No, no, no, I make no distinction between the 2, I don't see your point. I gave reads and stances combined into one. I wasn't about to go into a 9 page detailed breakdown {as I'm about to here} but gave analysis none-the-less. You don't like the way I did it? Oh, well. Don't say I didn't do it, though. btw, I'm still more than happy to give more detailed info on anything you'd like clarification on.

@

Troll822

- Assuming that we go along with the 'Fishy targets the PGO' plan, who would you suggest be our Lynch for the Day?

@

DDDP828

- Makes some really strong points, imo.

@

Fishy829

- Why would Scum need to RB you if you're not willing to do as the Town bids? Your position makes no sense to me. You're saying that Scum would RB you so you couldn't kill yourself on the PGO so that they could secure a misLynch on you the next Day? All of this instead of RBing a Cop? Wtf?

@

DGB830

- Maybe, maybe not. I don't see how we can truly know this without seeing the actual RolePM. Assuming your supposition is true, how would we differentiate between NonHostilePointGatheringOther and HostilePointGatheringOther?

@

Fishy836

- Please define AntiTown.

@

Shotty838

- +1

@

Fishy840

- There is proof that you

aren't

Town. How is this equal to the lack of evidence that Shotty is Town? You are not Town > No evidence that Shotty is/isn't Town {substitute any player slot with a Null Read}. A Cop not using his Investigation

is

AntiTown! It is hurting the Town's ability to catch Scum and fulfill it's WinCon.

@

Fishy853

- Are you going for Scum or nonTown? If given the choice, which would you Lynch and why?

@

Jack861

- I believe that DGB has said multiple times that Troll was complaining about the number of PRs. How are you missing that?

@

DGB865

- Remember that teh Mods said if not a lot of people choose Town, their powers will be immense. IF Fishy's suggestion that there are at least 6 NonTownPointGatheringOthers out here, I'm seeing a lot of powerful Town Roles as a high probablity.

@

Nico867

- Yes there is reason to think you're Scum/Other due to the Wagon's composition. If xvart had flipped Scum, then that would be a more acceptible statement. He did not, thus Scum wanted him dead.

@

Jack874

- Your point being?

This is starting to get unweildy and I'm getting pretty damn sleepy. I'll pick up tomorrow.

[DrippingGoofball]

And fishy is claiming his faction is non-hostile other why would I be bussing him?

I think you are an opposing faction to Fishy. Otherwise you wouldn't have investigated him.

Wait, what? Farside

knew

Fishy's alignment D1? Where's the evidence?

Tsk tsk. No. I meant that she wouldn't investigate a player from her own non-hostile faction. Fishy and Farside are NOT from the same group. This is NOT bus'ing.

[DrippingGoofball]

In case it's not obvious, d3x's post is completely useless.

[UncertainKitten]

Congratulations on the IIoA d3x. Any plans on actually telling us who's scum?

[Ellibereth]

OK

TOWN
charter
DDD
DGB
Elli
Llama
pops
UK
Plum
Gamma
Shotty
Jack
Ani
(Para)
(Oj)

SK
Troll

SCUM
Nico
d3x
Red

POINTS GROUP 1
farside
(xvart)

POINTS GROUP 2
Fishy
Imagine

POINTS GROUP 3
Stranger
Chrono

[DrippingGoofball]

You forgot Jack the Cult Recruiter, Elli.

[Ellibereth]

From my experience with jack I think he would have picked town though. Don't remember where but i do remember him saying somewhere he liked town better. Teleporter maybe? (someone go look for me )

Rest looks good?

[Plum]

Looks pretty good to me. I'll see if I can rustle up a pretty response to Troll but I've got other things I need to do today.

[d3x]

It's only useless/IIoA if people don't answer the questions.

Any plans on actually telling us who's scum?

Sure. Once I'm fully caught up.

[UncertainKitten]

No. Just no.

It is IIoA if you do absolutely no analysis and just summarize random posts.

Hey, I think I saw a post JUST LIKE THAT from you :O!

[DrippingGoofball]

@

DDDP828

- Makes some really strong points, imo.

@

Fishy836

- Please define AntiTown.

@

Shotty838

- +1

@

Jack874

- Your point being?

^^^ highlights

[charter]

@charter:
1. Do you believe my claim? If not, why not?
2. Do you think the role I've claimed should be lynched? If so, why?
If you think my claim might be largely true, then you simply cannot afford to waste 5 or more lynches on non-hostile others, some of whom are not working against the town.

1. I don't 100% believe it, so you need to die. I don't believe it because there's really no way to confirm that you get points for working with the town.
2. Yes I do. You're not town. Ideally someone would vig you.

Anyhow, I'm going to be switching my votecount to whichever scum has the most votes currently. I can't in good conscious keep voting someone who isn't able to get lynched.

[charter]

That last sentence should read something like 'I'm going to switch my vote when I see a votecount to whichever scum has the most votes.'

[animorpherv1]

Hi. Can anyone gives me a quick walk-through on how each person was found on that list?

[Ellibereth]

Hi. Can anyone gives me a quick walk-through on how each person was found on that list?

Hey.
Does point collecting mean anything to you?

[LlamaFluff]

Im starting to grow weary of this day.

Zorblag, d3x, nico, jack and probably RC need to get killed off ASAP. There are a few other maybes on this list, but they dont need to die quite yet.

Im just about in agreement with the Elli list

[DrippingGoofball]

Nico is being replaced in a mini somewhere.

[Fishythefish]

@d3x: the only question to me I think is worth answering is what I'd like to lynch today.

- I score points for lynching scum.
- If I lynch other point scorers, that's probably going to hurt them.
- Lynching "other", apart from point scorers, is neutral, but slightly good as it helps the town
- Lynching town is bad.

So it probably goes
Scum>Other point scorers>Other "other" players>Town
With the first ">" being pretty close, and the others being clear.

TBH, I don't know what Nico is. His play does not seem town to me, and all non-town lynches are good for me.

[DrippingGoofball]

If that's true, you should be voting Troll-SK, or Jack-Cult-Recruiter. There's a point bonanza there for you.

[Fishythefish]

No, they don't get me points. Scum get me points.

[DrippingGoofball]

You don't get points for SK???

[animorpherv1]

Hi. Can anyone gives me a quick walk-through on how each person was found on that list?

Hey.
Does point collecting mean anything to you?

Nope.