959: Malth's Alternate Reality: Game Over

[Pittbunny]

/confirm, yo.

[Pittbunny]

Sweet, we got our ten.

[Pittbunny]

FOS: SocioPath

o.O Am I missing a post or something, because I don't get your context.

In other news, I'm intrigued as to why magical zappy wand has a 24 hour charge time. Is this to suppose that there is a minimum Day Time as well as a maximum?

[Pittbunny]

o.O

He accused UK of voting for the mob...before UK actually did it. I'm sorry I missed something?

[Pittbunny]

Well that was fast.

And I just realized that UK was Lain in the second Mao game, who did indeed vote for the Mod. Was your FoS related to that, Sociopath? =P

[Pittbunny]

I will agree on the presumption that Mal is a Char.... I mean Tar.

[Pittbunny]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

But sure, I'll

Vote: Mal the Mod

until a more interesting wagon shows up.

[Pittbunny]

Cool. Answer my question if you will? It'll only take a second.

[Pittbunny]

You first.

Unvote; Vote Pittbunny

[Pittbunny]

Where you are, so am I.

The question to Sociopath is sincere though. Since he had first post after DayStart, I'm curious as to the context. UK seems to get Day1 RV'd quite a bit from the random threads I've looked at, and I just wanted to know if this was a common thing or, say, related to a specific game.

[Pittbunny]

I'm honored that you think I'm an idiot.

[Pittbunny]

Ah. Consider it either me being a genuine idiot, experimenting, or some measure of both.

Would you prefer I get back on topic?
If Mal is indeed a Tar-lite, how far do we expect him to go with similarities?

[Pittbunny]

Danke. All I needed.

Unvote Pittbunny

Well, since I'm still RVS,

Vote Sociopath

, as his avatar is mine but on FIRE. Fire hurts.

[Pittbunny]

So are the other elements, when you think about it. Water washes, earth scours, and air carries. We can get in to the other metaphysical elements too, but that's highly unrelated to this thread.

I do enjoy learning the associations between different players though. It's useful to know who already knows one another, even if it doesn't immediately produce any immediate results.

[Pittbunny]

Would it help if we started BW-ing one of you just so your argument gets focused towards something...more related to the current game? I see the quote stripe argument, and my opinion's more or less "If you hate em, don't read em, but you're losing information if you don't read em".

[Pittbunny]

Edit: Or you could bandwagon me. That works too, though I'm not sure if you'll learn anything more about me than you already have. Hopefully a wagon will get other people to speak up, so I approve on the basis that new information is good, even if it's not coming from my keyboard.

[Pittbunny]

What about a genre claim? Or do y'all feel it'd be too early in the game for something like that?

I'll bite provided we get a large enough pool to consent.

I don't quite follow Twomz's logic either, and I'm the one that actually self-voted. As for using a self-vote to diffuse a wagon on myself...sure. Why not. It worked out somewhat well, did it not? Granted, that's not the reason I did it, but in hindsight it's not an illogical ploy.

Why did I do it? I like discussion. Early bandwagons on a frequent poster (as I'm attempting to be) provide content from the other players, if not from the frequent poster. If said content yields useful data, then I can say it worked. Additionally, I got to learn at least a little bit about the out-game relationships of some of the earlier posters, which is useful in case debates start rising up involving them. This isn't enough data to justify a self-vote, but since when were self-votes completely justifiable in the early-game?

[Pittbunny]

Either self-admittance or the fact that you can't be bothered to post more than five words at a time?

Apologies, you had six that one post.

[Pittbunny]

Either self-admittance or the fact that you can't be bothered to post more than five words at a time?

Apologies, you had six that one post.

Why are you annoyed?

I prefer flowery but meaningless prose over one-liners that, while holding the same weight as everything else on Day 1, are blaaaaand. Personal inclinations, more or less.

[Pittbunny]

Thank you, Jack.

Yes, hypocritical irony.

[Pittbunny]

Yes, on a different site. That was Werewolf though, usually multiple factions, and games in excess of 16+. This streamlined setup MS has going on is new, bizarre, and interesting to me.

[Pittbunny]

We've got a stealth/doublevoter.

That or Mal can't count.

Unvote;

I'm worried that Mal bolded his votes.

I just can't count. Fixed.

[Pittbunny]

I was more or less OMGUSing Jack, and was kind of ignoring Cobalt's posts as a whole.
And yes, I like that people post fluff. It makes me feel better in that we're not just a bunch of people who A. Overanalyze everything B. Are the village idiots C. Are secretly overanalyzing everything while pretending to be a village idiot.

I understand the whole incentive to grind mafiatheory down to a science, I just don't like the meta-posting implications.

[Pittbunny]

EDIT: Way for me to use OMGUS wrong. But yes, I was ignoring Cobalt.

[Pittbunny]

The obvious example? If everyone else thinks they're right and you're going to get lynched for it.

[Pittbunny]

Vote UK

For pulling a Caruso so soon after I linked to Caruso.

[Pittbunny]

unvote

In case we have a hidden voter. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Pittbunny]

I don't trust Mal to not have a person that votes via FoS or something similar, especially in a game that has no vanillas. Assuming that each person only has two abilities, that's at least 24 powers running about. Vote influencing's not unlikely in that scenario.

[Pittbunny]

No. Context is all I have to make that assumption by.

[Pittbunny]

Well, it can either be A. Me claiming off my PM or B. A rough estimate. 1,2,3, the fact is that we have quite a few powers that can run amok.

Also, I'm going to apologize in advance if I double-post. My submit-button isn't sending me to the "Message Sent" page, and I've had to backtrack-pagereset-doublecheck to make sure a post actually went through.

[Pittbunny]

As you've been trying to imply for the last three posts, yes. No need to be so redundant about it if you're just going to be vague.

[Pittbunny]

I'm going to have to agree with UK on the "What the hell are you smoking Cobalt" platform.

And the problem with redundancy is that once someone mentions it (like I just did), it becomes a blatant Appeal to Repetition. As to rolefishing, why shouldn't I rolefish? As Jake questioned I don't have any experience with this mod, and only know the fact that "This is a game with no vanillas". Besides, I can use my attempt to fish as a way to ensure that everyone gets at least some form of scope as to the extent of what can occur on a Day/Night cycle. Granted, I can't help much with just Day 1, but I find that the ballpark numbers of 12,24,36 should be indicative of, well, a game of strategical intrigue.

[Pittbunny]

Because I agree that your latest post makes no sense. Right.

And you're not going to lump Sociopath in with this little tirade too? Or did you just go after me because I specifically called you out? Cobalt, content. I want some. I don't care if you provide nothing but flowery absurdities, just provide something that doesn't make you look more VI than I already do.

[Pittbunny]

Did I say anything about outing roles? Rolefishing doesn't have to target specifics; I want scope. It can be as general as you'd like, so long as it's data. Even a genre-claim would provide something, though that example isn't that good via your scum-reference bit. I don't think that getting this close to a hammer so early when we've got only about half of the players active is wise.

[Pittbunny]

Pittbunny

- assuming everyone has two abilities is quite an assumption... As for your rolefishing comment: why should you rolefish? You want to out powerroles so the scum have an easy target at night? It sounds like you would be in favor of a mass role claim right now? Is that accurate?

Incorrect on the mass claim, but you likely were in the middle of posting when I made the comment, so I don't mind. I agree on the premise that there exists base information about this game that is neutral to reveal; if a benefit would exist, both sides would benefit equally.

For example, the concept of your role name.
Was it in the style of:
______?
______,_____?
_____(____)?
etc.?

Something as simple as that, while it wouldn't tell much, would be something that I would agree to reveal. At least then the game is raised from uninformed majority-informed minority to moreorlessuninformed majority-informed minority. I don't mind baby steps when it comes to data accrual.

[Pittbunny]

Hum. Fate opens their play in a way that I'm quite confused. At least, moreso than usual.

As to Mal's update: I think he throws in any vote regardless of if they are a current player or not. For experimentation's sake:

Vote:Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Pittbunny]

UK: One vote was for Mal, the mod. Another was for your former name. I decided to throw a completely random one out.

Navy: I wasn't aware that I flipflopped on Cobalt. I thought that I was showing what was more or less apathy towards his opinions until he posted something which I couldn't interpret, and then called him on it. Is that satisfactory crunch?

[Pittbunny]

Seizures...aren't good. Don't get on until you're sure that it's nothing serious.



As to CJMiller's sig comment, there's some validity to be made there. To be honest, I would attempt a case against UK except A. I don't have one and B. I already look like a fucktard, and would probably look moreso if I tried.

As to an amicable agreement on why lynching you is stupid, I somewhat doubt that. Day 1 is a crapshoot in regards to itself. Yes, you can try to go for a deep analysis of the players; however, none of us have provided particularly expositive comments to pick apart. Yes, you can make a claim despite brevity, but it won't be particularly effective.
So while I don't agree that an agreement can be made on why lynching you is stupid, I CAN agree that lynching you

soon

is stupid. There isn't a particular rush to Day 1, and you still have plenty of time to reduce the wagon on your person and attempt to analyze/incriminate others.

Now, I ask because I'm about to go in to study mode for next week's finals and thus will likely produce even less content during the week; are there any outstanding questions/concerns that anyone interested in analyzing me wants addressed?

[Pittbunny]

I find the results fascinating.

[Pittbunny]

I do not, in fact, like being lynched. Then again, that's a trait shared in common by both sides, so I'd be one odd character (or playing the role of) to actually want to get lynched. And yes, Sociopath, I'm aware that the majority of my posts do a pretty good job of bashing my own style.

[Pittbunny]

...is it bad that I don't know what said reasons are, Jack?

As to Cherub, sure. It's similar to how people troll to incite reactions, I'm just more likely to get lynched accidentally for not knowing when to stop. I figured I should try varying playstyles to see what doesn't get steamrolled by the meta, and 'annoying twinkie poster' seemed at the time to have merit. And now I request that you repeat what you said in the last two posts, once again adding on one more thing that incriminates me as a worthless player for both sides. Please. It's amusing. I love not being the only one posting repetitious fluff.

I'm a little worried though, this is my first game with two posters that stay trite whenever possible. This means only 9 people I can get significant potential reactions from, with 2 that just vote often and AFAIK non-randomly.

[Pittbunny]

Pitt is weird. Like people have said, he's been very 'diplomatic.' I find this kind of scummy.
@pitt: reaction testing is one thing, constantly acting scummy is another. Do you plan on stopping this behavior tomorrow if you live through the day?

Your first sentence is the nicest thing said about me thus far. Thank you, despite your thinking I'm scummy. =)

As to your inquiry; it depends entirely on what occurs today and tonight. Should all go south, I suppose I'd have to get serious, but I'd rather keep up my meta-idiot idiocy a while longer, at least until I get a worthwhile read on someone. Suffice to say I haven't done a very good job at D1 analysis yet, and am hoping something clicks. Eventually. It might just be that playing diplomatic idiot to the point that you think you're being an idiot just clouds effective judgment, or it could be that I can't read y'inz players as well as I thought I might.

It'd be a lot easier to play the idiot if I was the only one trying, of course.

[Pittbunny]

Question: If you feel you have an interpretation to someone's comment as I do for Llama's above line of thinking, is it best to wait until after the target has addressed it? I would assume yes.

And yes, I do that to people.

[Pittbunny]

Loaded question, but obviously no. That's specifically being detrimental towards the game as a whole, as if you are:

A. A townie, you're being a retard for being anti-town
B. A scum, you're being a retard for getting too close to a failing partner

From what I thought, griefing on the forums was a bannable offense.

Granted, you could be neutral, but then doing so just makes your mission (if relevant) a lost cause, and your best shot of winning is posthumously.

[Pittbunny]

A close interpretation. I see nothing wrong with it, other than a discreet implication via the use of 'someone'.

[Pittbunny]

Xvart raises a point; why are two players multi-voting? There are plenty of presumptions to be made regarding abilities, but perhaps we should hear from SocioPath(2) and Fate(2+1).

To be honest, I wouldn't expect two multi-voters in such a small game (especially ones being indiscreet while doing so) to be a possibility, so I'm curious as to how this will pan out.

[Pittbunny]

It's kind of hard to say who a scum partner is when one doesn't have a partner. Or is scum. Again, loaded question.

And I don't care if they're just goofing off with the votes; at least say you were, weren't, or are disinclined to reveal.

[Pittbunny]

I dunno SP. They've run out of their own integrity to undermine, so they might be interested in...EXPANSION!

This.

Also, I take your lack of response to mean that you decline to answer. Is this correct, SP?

[Pittbunny]

Also, I take your lack of response to mean that you decline to answer. Is this correct, SP?

I decline to answer any questions I either deem stupid, or unhelpful.
With this exception of this one.

A satisfactory response.

[Pittbunny]

Eh, I saw that, problem is the numbers don't add up. 4/12

I don't believe it's the math that Cobalt is link-giggling at. In fact, it's a pretty interesting potential f-slip, if it is one. I don't believe I've seen that type before, and wouldn't have were it not pointed out.

Vote: Llama

[Pittbunny]

Refusal, CJ. Especially towards you, who jumped from largewagon A to newlargewagon B.

[Pittbunny]

Sure it is, Judas.

I state thusly: it is a waste of time to go after me. I am neutral. I am not pro-town. I am not anti-town. Successfully outing me out of the game consumes more time and resources than you should be wasting. Whether this means that I have lynch-triggered abilities and what said abilities might be are up to you to decide, but I have nothing that I can say directly helps the town. My biggest detriment to the town would be the time you waste stringing me up.

[Pittbunny]

Hm. I'll answer with 'possibly'. To be honest, me dying via town is the easiest way for me to hurt town, but you won't know why until you do so.

I'm debating with myself on whether a partial claim would work, but I can't figure out what I can reveal without...wait. Duh.

Put it this way; you'll need to lynch me twice if you want me out. Yes, that means two days of force-lynching me. This corresponds to two nights for scum to whittle down numbers in response to my death(s). This will result in (presumably), 2 town and 1 neutral offed, and whatever investigative/roleblocking shenanigans in between, assuming one death per night as a safe minimum. So now I ask if you consider this a fair trade, or if you'll let me live and play my own subsection of the game. Or you could just wait for scum to off me in the case that they think my vote is too useful to the town agenda.

[Pittbunny]

Justified. Now, get ready to have to Round 2 me.

[Pittbunny]

It's fun, isn't it? They consider my existence more of a threat compared to the fact that I can at least help push votes.

[Pittbunny]

Learn to not waste townies just because of a neutral existing. Presumably, I'm not the only one.

Also, I count six on me, is Cobalt saying he doublevotes?

[Pittbunny]

I wonder who Cherub will go after once his tunnel-target is gone, hum.
I also wonder when Mal will show up to axe me and end the day.

[Pittbunny]

EBWODB: Either Cobalt miscounted, or he's a double voter. I assume the latter seeing as he was insistent on being the hammer, so I assume it's too late to be day-vigged. Would have been a decent choice too; I rez on the lynch, not on a kill.

[Pittbunny]

See, I AM useful before I die! =D

[Pittbunny]

Jack has it tactically right in regards to how to handle my case.

And I thought I made my nameclaim pretty obvious with the Judas bit: I'm Jesus Christ, Son of the Creator. I see no reason to reveal my abilities until Round 2, because I don't know most of them.

[Pittbunny]

You will see what my win condition is after my *ahem* second coming.

And I'm convinced it didn't, but I doubt I'd get many people to believe neutral ol' me.

[Pittbunny]

Never said that I was town, never planned on trying. If my rez makes me town, I'll be very surprised and screwed regardless.

So...no. No role PM. You all are demanding too much from me, without at the very least attempting to probe others. You're wasting time on me, and apparently I can't get that through to you. In fact, I encourage you guys to read my iso and see the people that have continually targeted me for whatever reason they made up at the time. Perhaps you'll notice something you can use.

[Pittbunny]

Lack of caring, I think. Neutral roles either result in players getting very involved, or almost not at all.

And I'll be happy to bah after a hammer. I'll be happy to get to do it twice, unless you know something I do not. =)

[Pittbunny]

Fwap CJ for misunderstanding Fate. He just wants to make sure there aren't any complaints in the future for my death. A glorious one it shall be.

[Pittbunny]

Yes. I am my role before I'm even close to being an ally of the town; I am simply providing the best method for me to get my reqs done and for you to not waste two days just to kill someone who MIGHT be a survivor, and MIGHT be a liability in the start-game. I have never claimed I was such and may very well be one who steps out after reqs are finished. So yes, work on another person's case if you're just going to keep up this wagon on me until I either crack or someone gets trigger happy. At least make better use of the D1 time you have left.

[Pittbunny]

At least make better use of the D1 time you have left.

Well I've already caught all the scum, so how could it get any better?

I hope you can convince the others that you are right, then.

[Pittbunny]

Anyway, I agree that Pitt needs to die. Third party survivor is bad enough. Third party survivor with one shot kill proofness?

One shot

lynch

-proofness. Let's not give me abilities I don't know I have. And I wouldn't call it a one-shot lynch-proof. I call it Easter.

[Pittbunny]

True. But I was sufficiently backed in to a corner, so you'll just have to play it by the book and lynch me twice, I suppose. The only difference is that now you won't be like "OMFG, YOU CAME BACK, GTFOLYNCH" when I return. You'll just be "GTFOLYNCH", minus the surprise.

Or get that dayvig off his ass and kill a twice-lived bird with one stone. If there is one.

[Pittbunny]

Twomz, could you be specific on when 10PM is for you? For the Dayvigs that might be trigger-happy?

And yes, UK. That's what I've been advocating. Use the time you're waiting for a dayvig to probe other people, then hammer if I'm not dead by appointed time. Which is apparently Twomz's 10PM.

[Pittbunny]

YAY LYNCHING!

[Pittbunny]

Other than Twomz, who else can hammer me? UK, Llama, Socio?

[Pittbunny]

I'd hammer myself if I was the jester, you know.

[Pittbunny]

Oh, interested in a dead man's tales, are you?
Stay awhile and listen!

And no, you did not. Quick ISO shows you pinged on Twomz.

[Pittbunny]

Well, seeing as you're priming the handle:

FoS:SocioPath

for not offering to hammer despite him activelurking. Wuss. =D

...

Unvote; Vote Brian

, cause I can.

[Pittbunny]

What the hell? I come back, and don't get lynched? I was away from MS all day; I thought I'd get wagoned before I ever posted.

Though, I'm probably going to die tonight; there's gotta be at least one vig in town, right?

Also: CJ gets lynched tomorrow if we get a townflip, yes?

[Pittbunny]

It did, actually. Which kind of sucks, I feel let down. I thought I'd have to try and convince a bunch of people playing absurdedly similar aloof games, which is never an easy task.

Again, doesn't work out well if I get killed tonight.

[Pittbunny]

Such as?

/obviousopinionfish

[Pittbunny]

Wait, Jack, people give survivors abilities like that? Isn't that a bit OP, even for a bastard mod setup?

If so, I wouldn't approve of it on my sheet. Having to force town to double-lynch just to remove one obstruction seems like a massive time gain for mafia to simply whittle down your numbers. And that leads to the gambit question: lynch me sooner, and risk a mafia power overrun, or wait until a successful scumhunt and hope I'm just a mere survivor?

[Pittbunny]

I haven't had a night to request a fakeclaim, if you've noticed.
Only other ability I'm aware of is attempting to find someone else that's apparently hindering me. Naturally, killing them if i get the positive night-read. Dunno what the future holds after that, or if this person is pro/[neutral/scum]. I will say that I am investigating llama tonight, as his little dance number is, to say the least, interesting. It's my current theory from watching D2 that he's Haruhi Suzumiya.

[Pittbunny]

Yes, llama. I had nothing to do with it, honest.

By the way, is you Haruhi? I would expect a Haruhi is Tar is a role.

[Pittbunny]

I'm asking if you are Haruhi Suzumiya.

[Pittbunny]

God. Being Jesus, I thought I'd ask.

[Pittbunny]

Hey cool, I did something in the lynch scene. Nifty.

[Pittbunny]

Longer-than-expected twilight makes PB a bored bunny.

[Pittbunny]

Ooh! A roleblocker! Go you, roleblocker!

[Pittbunny]

That's how he's been playing the game.

Anyway. I'm fine with you guys lynching me, but it's a waste of time. I guarantee that I'm an inactive threat, as opposed to an active threat like, say, scum.

[Pittbunny]

That's how he's been playing the game.

Anyway. I'm fine with you guys lynching me, but it's a waste of time. I guarantee that I'm an inactive threat, as opposed to an active threat like, say, scum.

That's a scummy way to play a game.
Also, that defense is WIFOM. Just sayin'.

Yup! Except I'm not scum.
Consider: We've yet to have two NKs in one night. Either I'm a really stupid SK, I'm scum with a very odd revival ability, or I'm simply not important enough to immediately matter, but will eventually die as per town wincon.

If I am not immediately quicklynched, I'll offer my vote services to whatever wagon the consensus wants me to help push. Seems like the least I can do, other than die.





Oh, I almost forgot. I could also be a double jester with bomb. But Mal isn't Tar-esque, right?

[Pittbunny]

Fear my second coming. =P

[Pittbunny]

I see not your point. I lie. Often, in fact. Gonna lynch me now?

[Pittbunny]

Why did I say roleblock? Why not, I suppose.

Maybe I just want to give people the idea in their heads that there is no doc. Or maybe there is one. Doesn't matter to me, anyway.

[Pittbunny]

I claimed last time. Isn't that enough?

In shorthand form:
Jesus Christ, Son of the Creator.
Easter Sunday - Shown one-shot lynchrez ability
Unkillable - Cannot be killed except by one specific night-kill ability. [Jack called it. I don't like the idea that I have this ability. Were I not such a crappy player, this role could have done a lot more damage to mafia.].

Gift to town: killer/vig/deathbot of some sort. You heard it here first. For your sake, I hope that person is town. For my sake, mafia.

Holy Smite - New ability. Target 1 player per night, if they are a specific person, they die. Fluff has something to do with enemy to the Lord, which is why I went after llama (thought he might have been Haruhi Suzumiya due to random uplifting dance ability. second god = false god).


I'd bullshit a power about Super Carpentry, but I don't think you want to hear it.
Oh, and I can fakeclaim Yuki Nagato, if that helps any.

[Pittbunny]

Shouldn't be worried? I'm getting lynched, foo.

[Pittbunny]

Exactly. I'm a threat; I'm being nice by assuring you that I'm not a direct threat. I don't know how much more detailed you can get other than SURVIVOR for a wincon claim, llama.

And, as you can see, my survivor toolkit is centered on anti-death measures. For me to have a townkill ability would be for me to have lied about at least one of my other abilities (for the sake of having a somewhat balanced role. A hard to kill deathbringer survivor? I unno about that.)

[Pittbunny]

I don't care to hear a PB wincon.
If PB had originally stated it, and it including "doesn't count as a blablabla" I would have gladly let PB live after the first lynch.

If you mean some sort of "step out of game when win" win condition, I sadly do not.

Make up half of town and have my target be dead, not that it matters.

@CMAR: You really...don't read, huh. I do have a revival ability; it got used, hence why I'm here. I mean, I know I posted a LOT of worthless crap, but a decent glance-over should have told you that I have this ability. And used it. Are you actually reading to hunt, or not? You've been wishy-washy with your opinions on people ["Oh, I agree about UK, but maybe not today"], and are relying more on other people's opinions (having even asked for them) than your own judgment.

@UK: There's a roleblocker. Mal used IF in regards to my rez ability, not WHEN. Were I roleblocked on N2, logically I would have stayed dead, hence the IF. I can't say that I know if a doc exists or not, but I'm much more inclined to believe it was a roleblocker.

I do believe that that is the extent of my game-studying usefulness. I've given you the interpretations of my role. If you want player opinions, I can offer those as well, having watched the entirety of D2 unfold, but really, I'm at the point where town can Do As You Will.

I wouldn't mind seeing llama get lynched before I do. =P

[Pittbunny]

To be technical, he claimed one-shot roleblock, which in hindsight would have coincided with my time. My belief still stands, however. One roleblock seems like not enough incentive to use If.

[Pittbunny]

Fine, but I'm still adhering to that as my justification as to why I said what I said about a roleblock.

Now, meaningless banter about a moot subject with a person on death's door aside, can we talk a bit about Twomz? He wasn't Crono; he was the clone. Assuming names mean at least SOMETHING about given powers (mine sure as hell did), does this mean that he was a bodyguard? Or maybe he'll come back later as Crono?

...that was pointless what-iffing. Next topic.

Jack, why aren't you lumping me with scum? Being one of the key players in my first death, I'm curious as to why you made the discrepancy now. Doesn't matter to me, but I find it interesting.

UK softclaims cop. I'm inclined to believe, and hope that UK finds the doc he's looking for.

CMAR is scum. Lynch him ASAP, but probably after you lynch me.

CJ is third-party. Lynch him third between me, CMAR, and him.

[Pittbunny]

I'm wrong about at least one of the three. My numbers don't add up in comparison to the standings. Not sure which, though.

[Pittbunny]

I speculate because I'm neutral and stand to gain personal satisfaction from instigating while knowing that I am most certainly going to die. Call it morbid entertainment, if you will. You're also on your second? account, and I was too lazy to check that you were female for FL as well. My apologies if I somehow offended you, and I pray for my personal safety that you're not a neo-feminist. =P
Mine's intentional, and for another game. I'm a guy.

CJ continues to vote for me with little reason other than All The Cool Kids Are Doing It. He's yet to post anything significant. He tried to suggest a policy lynch for inactivity despite juicier lynch-targets available. If he's town, he's VI material, and you'd want him dead before end-game. If he's scum, he's doing a really shitty job of hiding, and I'm disinclined to believe he'd make it that easy. That leaves third-party, which fits his disinclination to be proactive. He's been reactive thus far, in that he only does something after the initial notable trigger, and not before. I wouldn't be in shock if he was actually my kill target, and will confirm that I'll try my smite on him if I live the day. Which I won't, but I might as well make any promises I can while I still can.

tl;dr CJ's play thus far doesn't make much sense for either extreme [Good/Evil]. More plausible to be a neutral.

Out of 12, I assume 2 scum 1 cult 2 neutral 7 town.
Am I justified in assuming that there should only be one scum left? I don't play many 12ers, but I would assume that the second evil faction would balance the extra players.

[Pittbunny]

Well, it's hard to work with nothing but short posts that are mainly bolded votetext. Yes, too scummy is a fallacy. I consider CJ not to be the type to be the gambit that breaks that fallacy.

Anyway, if you kill said mafioso and the game doesn't end, that simply means that there is another non-town player. Lynch/Kill any of the three I listed (including myself) and I'm pretty confident that you'll hit a non-town. I know myself to be perfectly correct in that statement for 1/3. xP

Oh, right. The bit about me getting new abilities was a half-lie. I'm restricted in some way should my adversary be alive [based on fluff]. I assume this applies to my adversary as well, so a double knockout would be in town's favor.

Anyone wanna claim Judas so we can have a popularity neutral contest going? We can fight to the death with sporks.

[Pittbunny]

Yay, llama is scum. Good luck town, and may you find salvation.

[Pittbunny]

Ooh, an heir role.