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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 2:40 pm

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MrSandman, 373 wrote:Overall, I'm going to Vote ConfidAnon for dodging and being the most obvious guy that's not contributing.
What have I dodged, exactly?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 2:51 pm

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Remember when ISO: 7 from TheButtonmen where I said it was the only town read I had from him? Well, right now, he has none, because I noticed THIS:

Post #111
TheButtonmen wrote:Discussions on theory, IIOA and the like are actually worse then nothing as they give scum a way to look involved and active while not providing content.
Guess what Elias_the_theif said on #109?
Elias_the_theif wrote:This shows a complete lack of understanding for what I was saying. Further, this is WRONG. A bunch of space taken up by theory discussion is counterproductive, because it draws away from whats happening in OUR game, and encourages/enables lurkers. Worse than nothing.
TheButtonmen was parroting Elias_the_thief on correcting me on the situation. Congratulation TheButtonmen, you've just made another scummy post that I skimmed over.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 3:51 pm

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ConfidAnon wrote:
MrSandman, 373 wrote:Overall, I'm going to Vote ConfidAnon for dodging and being the most obvious guy that's not contributing.
What have I dodged, exactly?
Taking sides and making contributions. When you would be confronted numerous times about activity you would finally just jump on the bandwagon or target another lurker.
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ConfidAnon wrote:I only have one vote.

I don't know where I want it as of right now.
What can we do to help you decide? Or, alternately, can you be less useless and do some scumhunting?

I'm not going to let you lurk through this game. (Or anyone else, for that matter. [rover, I'm looking at you.])

@ConfidAnon: Who is your top suspect?
You waffle. You try to get someone to put a name out there for you.
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Elias_the_thief, 223 wrote: Specifically, which players do you think I have strong points about? Who would you consider voting at this point? You seem to be avoiding naming anyone specific that you find scummy, and being noncommittal is very anti-town, if not just plain scummy.
The top three on your lists have good points upon them, but the one I think deserves the most attention is rover.

In fact,
Vote: rover.


Imo, going after a lurker isn't that big of a scumtell on it's own (unless its possibly an attempt to derail another wagon, which to my knowledge isn't happening here.) Your summary of rover's play is fairly accurate, and could easily be explained by rover bing scum.
Shattered Viewpoint, 232 wrote:Or, alternately, can you be less useless and do some scumhunting?
Imma try.

See above for an answer to your question.
You use Elias_the_thief's analysis as the reason for why you target rover and state going after a lurker is not a scum tell.
ConfidAnon wrote:
Everyone who hasn't thrown their hat in the ring
- What do all of you who haven't said anything about it think about the me/rover/has scenario? Not that many have commented on it.
ConfidAnon wrote:All the more reason for you to vote roverscum!
Seems like you're pretty serious about this guy being scum. You lay low and keep him as your vote for quite some time.
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ConfidAnon wrote:All the more reason for you to vote roverscum!
doesn't look like you're going to get the support for this. Who else do you think is scum?
I need to take a look back at buttonmen to get a feel for why he's getting voted so I can make an informed decision on him.

At this point, I would be willing to switch over to MafiaSSK for his total lurkage.
You say you'd which over to MafiaSSK and admit it's for lurking alone. Going after lurkers still doesn't look scummy?
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hasdgfas, 342 wrote:I did not say I did not support what you're saying. I'm not totally against a rover lynch, actually, it's just that you're the only vote on him, and deadline is saturday. You're probably not going to get enough votes to lynch him in time. That's what I'm saying, not that I don't agree with you.
I see your point.

Unvote, Vote: MafiaSSK
Completely drop your lurker for a bandwagoned lurker on a whim.

You have dodged making any sort of decision or commitment on who you think is scum.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:53 pm

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MrSandman wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
ConfidAnon wrote:I only have one vote.

I don't know where I want it as of right now.
What can we do to help you decide? Or, alternately, can you be less useless and do some scumhunting?

I'm not going to let you lurk through this game. (Or anyone else, for that matter. [rover, I'm looking at you.])

@ConfidAnon: Who is your top suspect?
You waffle. You try to get someone to put a name out there for you.
Is the waffling comment directed at me or ConfidAnon?
Better than you. Don't doubt me; it won't end well.

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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 5:22 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
MrSandman wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
ConfidAnon wrote:I only have one vote.

I don't know where I want it as of right now.
What can we do to help you decide? Or, alternately, can you be less useless and do some scumhunting?

I'm not going to let you lurk through this game. (Or anyone else, for that matter. [rover, I'm looking at you.])

@ConfidAnon: Who is your top suspect?
You waffle. You try to get someone to put a name out there for you.
Is the waffling comment directed at me or ConfidAnon?
ConfidAnon.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:29 pm

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Everyone not voting Buttonmen or Confid: quit wasting your vote please.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 10:11 pm

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magnus_orion wrote:
Votecount 7 (Day 1)


1. ConfidAnon
(4):
hasdgfas
,
Unsight
,
rover9000
,
JDodge

2. Elias_the_thief
(0):
3. hasdgfas
(0):
4. JDodge
(0):
5. MafiaSSK
(1):
ConfidAnon

6. rover9000
(0):
7. Shattered Viewpoint
(0):
8. Shotty to the Body
(0):
9. Unsight
(0):
10. Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
(0):
11. Super Smash Bros. Fan
(1):
TheButtonmen

12. TheButtonmen
(5):
Shotty to the Body
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Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
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Elias_the_thief
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Super Smash Bros. Fan
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Shattered Viewpoint


Not Voting
(1):
MafiaSSK


Deadline is May 15, 6:30 PM EST
with 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

rover9000 has not posted in thread within 24 hours of being prodded. As per the activity rules, I will begin looking for a replacement. rover9000 will be replaced if I can find a replacement before he posts in thread.
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:Everyone not voting Buttonmen or Confid: quit wasting your vote please.
"Everyone" in this case is ... (drum roll please) ...

TheButtonmen. And ConfidAnon.

I'm reasonably sure that they won't be voting for themselves; if you think you can talk either of them onto the other's wagon, go for it.

Wouldn't it have been simpler to address the two players individually?

Or were you skimming and didn't notice this?

@hasdgfas, Unsight, MrSandman, and JDodge:

Can you each give me reasons that ConfidAnon is scummier than TheButtonmen?


We have a deadline coming up Monday; weekends are famous for people not being around; there are no further extensions available, and this has been going on for almost a month.

One of them needs to die.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 11:00 pm

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SSK also isn't voting for any of the wagons.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 6:51 am

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Oh, like he counts. :roll:
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 7:23 am

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SV wrote:an you each give me reasons that ConfidAnon is scummier than TheButtonmen?
he's trying to look like he's contributing. Buttonmen just doesn't seem to care.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 11:37 am

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Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:SSK also isn't voting for any of the wagons.
TBM would be at L1 then if I voted him. I would love a lynch on him.
Call me "SSK, or "ssk". Mafia is my father.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 11:40 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:SSK also isn't voting for any of the wagons.
TBM would be at L1 then if I voted him. I would love a lynch on him.
Those last two sentences? And your total lack of vote?

Don't mesh well.

Can you give a reasonable explanation of why you aren't voting?
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 12:33 pm

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Thats just how MSSK rolls, if you expect anything out of him other then V/LA, asking for people to read the thread for him or wiffle waffing on his stance then your in for a big ol' dissapointment. Hence why I want him lynched.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 12:35 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:@hasdgfas, Unsight, MrSandman, and JDodge:

Can you each give me reasons that ConfidAnon is scummier than TheButtonmen?
Most of what people are calling TheButtonmen scummy for isn't scummy IMO and at least two of the people on TBM's wagon are themselves very scummy. A lynch on TBM would be very telling for them, but lynching one of them would probably be more beneficial.

My vote on ConfidAnon was more of a pressure "get moving" vote because his play was scummy/lazy prior to my first post. Since then he's tunneled on lurkers rover and MSSK. rover has been replaced by someone who actually plays so he's going at MSSK. Seems opportunistic though MSSK does need to get lynched/replaced.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 12:51 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Oh, like he counts.
Everyone counts in this game, not just people voting. Let's not use biasness in this game.
MafiaSSK wrote:TBM would be at L1 then if I voted him. I would love a lynch on him.
I really don't like this post. L-1 is okay this late into a Day, because we don't have much time left to fight off scums (Or at least people acting like scums).

I also notice a contradiction. You said that TheButtonmen would be at L-1 if you voted for him, which makes you sound concern. But in the exact post, you approved of it. If this is what you mean, then congratulation on a scummy post.
TheButtonmen wrote:Thats just how MSSK rolls, if you expect anything out of him other then V/LA, asking for people to read the thread for him or wiffle waffing on his stance then your in for a big ol' dissapointment. Hence why I want him lynched.
Then why do you have a vote on me? If you don't think I'm deserving of your top lynch candidate spot, then please unvote.
TheButtonmen wrote:and at least two of the people on TBM's wagon are themselves very scummy.
You mentioned Shotty to the Body as a suspect. Your 2nd and top suspect is ConfidAnon. But you said that there was
at least two people
on TheButtonmen's wagon who was scummy. Who is the 3rd person you find scummy?

Is it me? It is Elias_the_theif? It is Shattered Viewpoint? Or is it Super Awesome Mega Pimp?

Tell us which of the four you find suspicious and why.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 12:52 pm

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Unsight wrote:and at least two of the people on TBM's wagon are themselves very scummy.
You mentioned Shotty to the Body as a suspect. Your 2nd and top suspect is ConfidAnon. But you said that there was
at least two people
on TheButtonmen's wagon who was scummy. Who is the 3rd person you find scummy?

Is it me? It is Elias_the_theif? It is Shattered Viewpoint? Or is it Super Awesome Mega Pimp?

Tell us which of the four you find suspicious and why.[/quote]

That last response was directed toward Unisight. Sorry about that mistake.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 1:05 pm

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::: hands SSBF a shiny new sarcasm meter :::
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 1:15 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:@hasdgfas, Unsight, MrSandman, and JDodge:

Can you each give me reasons that ConfidAnon is scummier than TheButtonmen?


We have a deadline coming up Monday; weekends are famous for people not being around; there are no further extensions available, and this has been going on for almost a month.

One of them needs to die.
He just comes off as more of a anti-town guy than scum to me. I see him being difficult and unresponsive but he shows more consistency with the lynch all lurker policy than ConfidAnon. While TheButtonmen changed his vote from MafiaSSK, at least he gave SOMETHING as a reason and didn't just jump on the bandwagon.
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Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:SSK also isn't voting for any of the wagons.
TBM would be at L1 then if I voted him. I would love a lynch on him.
Why does L-1 worry you this late in day one?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:17 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:::: hands SSBF a shiny new sarcasm meter :::
No offense, but I'm not a fan of sarcasm. Unless you put something like a XD or /sarcasm in it, I'm going to litterally interperate posts that looks like serious intentions.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:23 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:Thats just how MSSK rolls, if you expect anything out of him other then V/LA, asking for people to read the thread for him or wiffle waffing on his stance then your in for a big ol' dissapointment. Hence why I want him lynched.
You suck. You fricken suck.
Mod request replacement for Buttonmen or myself
. Buttonmen's rhetoric in nearly every single post where he talks about me has been derogatory. It takes the fun out of the game. So either A. Replace me or B. Replace him.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:23 pm

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As for the L1 issue. I dunno. I guess it's not that bad on D1 really.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:27 pm

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MafiaSSK wrote:
TheButtonmen wrote:Thats just how MSSK rolls, if you expect anything out of him other then V/LA, asking for people to read the thread for him or wiffle waffing on his stance then your in for a big ol' dissapointment. Hence why I want him lynched.
You suck. You fricken suck.
Mod request replacement for Buttonmen or myself
. Buttonmen's rhetoric in nearly every single post where he talks about me has been derogatory. It takes the fun out of the game. So either A. Replace me or B. Replace him.
Actually
replace me
. It's not that derogatory.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:30 pm

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Oh, like he counts. :roll:
Rolling my eyes doesn't CLUE YOU IN?

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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 2:31 pm

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:::: hands SSBF a shiny new sarcasm meter :::
No offense, but I'm not a fan of sarcasm. Unless you put something like a XD or /sarcasm in it, I'm going to litterally interperate posts that looks like serious intentions.
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Oh, like he counts. :roll:
Rolling my eyes doesn't CLUE YOU IN?

Dear God.
For clarity; somehow a few posts got in the way.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri May 14, 2010 4:48 pm

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@MafiaSSK: Extrememly scummy and anti-town. You litterally admitted to saying he sucks and he sucks out all the fun of the game. Then you vote him. On the very next post, you asked to replace out. Even if you're disinterested in the game, this is BS. You are now officially my 2nd suspect.
FoS: MafiaSSK/whoever replaces him
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