Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[LlamaFluff]

fishythefish ( 9 ) DrippingGoofball d3x farside22 RedCoyote charter Debonair Danny DiPietro StrangerCoug Gammagooey Zorblag

Eliminating obviously town....

d3x, farside, RC, DDD, SC, GG, Troll

Eliminating prob tow...

d3x, RC

(?)

, Troll

Glad RC was able to clear up whether or not that question mark was needed so quickly. Fishy wagon wreaks of others with a dash of mafia.

[DrippingGoofball]

fishythefish ( 9 ) DrippingGoofball d3x farside22 RedCoyote charter Debonair Danny DiPietro StrangerCoug Gammagooey Zorblag

Fishy wagon wreaks of others with a dash of mafia.

I think you mean "reeks of others."

I've got Zorblag as SK, and farside as OTHER (she seems to be competing against OTHERS for points), and I'll peg d3x as scum right now.

TOWN
DrippingGoofball (I am not voting for Troll, besides)
charter

NEUTRAL
RedCoyote
Gammagooey

SCUM
d3x
Zorblag - SK

OTHER
farside22
Debonair Danny DiPietro
StrangerCoug

[RedCoyote]

Glad RC was able to clear up whether or not that question mark was needed so quickly. Fishy wagon wreaks of others with a dash of mafia.

Says the person going to bat for the anti-town faction. I'm not naive enough to believe that other players are always telling the 100% truth.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh dammit Jack recruited SC in his no hostile cult .

Recruitment gives us the ability to talk publicly in the thread.

WHAT A FIENDISHLY POWERFUL ABILITY! SO SUBTLE, YET SO GAME BREAKING!

@RC: So...Fishy claims non hostile other...but you think Jack is...what?

Further...is there a...case or something similar on Jack?

But yeah, overall, how if Fishy's claim more anti town than whatever Jack is.

[zoraster]

Day 2 Vote Count

charter ( 0 )
Chronopie ( 0 )
d3x ( 1 ) Jack
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )
DrippingGoofball ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
farside22 ( 1 ) StrangerCoug
fishythefish ( 6 ) farside22 charter Zorblag Chronopie Shotty to the Body RedCoyote
Gammagooey ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Jack ( 0 )
StrangerCoug ( 0 )
LLamaFluff ( 0 )
Nicodemus ( 4 ) fishythefish Ellibereth UncertainKitten Debonair Danny DiPietro
phate ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
Shotty to the Body ( 1 ) Nicodemus
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Plum ( 0 )
Zorblag ( 4 ) Plum LLamaFluff DrippingGoofball Gammagooey
Not Voting ( 4 ) phate imaginality popsofctown d3x
Total Votes ( 21 )

Deadline: May 24th at 11:00 EDT
With 21 able to vote, 11 needed to lynch.

Okay, I had a couple of people who did the following:

##unvote vote: zoraster

I counted it, but I won't in the future. There is NO need to unvote before voting, but there IS a need to type ## before voting. SpyreX might not get his toy fixed, but he might, and I'd rather have it be able to count.

[farside22]

Since DGB is wrong about me I'm pretty much on not listening but hey you want to lynch a town tracker to prove that fishy is scum knock yourselves out. I think this town is screwed for not listening to 2 people that just got outted that fishy is not town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Someone proposed to lynch you???

(1) I believe you are not scum
(2) I believe you are a tracker
(3) I do believe there is a nonzero chance that you are Fishy's competitor, and I don't think you can blame me for considering the possibility.

[farside22]

Someone proposed to lynch you???
(3) I do believe there is a nonzero chance that you are Fishy's competitor, and I don't think you can blame me for considering the possibility.

Let me ask you something.
How much sense does it make to keep a player that claims he's doing something that bennifits the town. When (1) he got a non town results from a claimed cop (2) hid information about doing anything last night to the point the tracked came out and called him on it (3) is still hiding information that most likely has to do with his faction win condition then the town win condition.
You answer how that makes sense to keep him and not lynch him. And go after someone you "think" may be SK.

[popsofctown]

But yeah, overall, how if Fishy's claim more anti town than whatever Jack is.

QFT

[DrippingGoofball]

We already KNOW that Jack is a cult that failed to recruit me.

[DrippingGoofball]

And for some reason that I can't wrap my head around, although the above is completely 100% obvious since page 1, all the wagons on him have frittered away for no reason whatsoever.

[Jack]

And for some reason that I can't wrap my head around, although the above is completely 100% obvious since page 1, all the wagons on him have frittered away for no reason whatsoever.

Wagons on cult leaders tend to do that after a night period

[farside22]

We already KNOW that Jack is a cult that failed to recruit me.

Why are you not voting for Jack then?

[UncertainKitten]

@farside: Woah awesome defensiveness there.
Second post questioning DGB is marginally better though.

[farside22]

@farside: Woah awesome defensiveness there.
Second post questioning DGB is marginally better though.

It's the bitch in me that enjoys seeing people get their comeuppance.

You call it defensive I feel quite bitchy thank you.

[UncertainKitten]

That's a nice justification but doesn't really help me determine your alignment. So, please excuse me for not excusing your actions which are borderline scummy.

[Jack]

and I'll peg d3x as scum right now.

SCUM
d3x
Zorblag - SK

DGB. You know Zor is just going to talk himself out of the lynch anyway.

[DrippingGoofball]

and I'll peg d3x as scum right now.

SCUM
d3x
Zorblag - SK

DGB. You know Zor is just going to talk himself out of the lynch anyway.

Not if I can help it.

[farside22]

That's a nice justification but doesn't really help me determine your alignment. So, please excuse me for not excusing your actions which are borderline scummy.

Then answer the question in 907 that DGB ignored

[LlamaFluff]

fishythefish ( 9 ) DrippingGoofball d3x farside22 RedCoyote charter Debonair Danny DiPietro StrangerCoug Gammagooey Zorblag

Fishy wagon wreaks of others with a dash of mafia.

I think you mean "reeks of others."

Awesome wordsmith I am not. Engineering student I am being.

Although I basically agree with all of your list, with the exception of changing RC and SC.

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When (1) he got a non town results from a claimed cop (2) hid information about doing anything last night to the point the tracked came out and called him on it (3) is still hiding information that most likely has to do with his faction win condition then the town win condition.

1) Correct. He is "other", more specifically, non-hostle other.
2) This does not change point 1. Also if he has a secondary slightly pro-town ability, he shouldnt reveal it yet. Later in the game he should.
3) He is competing with other 'others'. The more he shows to his rivals, the less his win chances. This actually backs up that he is 'other' and not mafia even more to me.

Please get this... he is other, not mafia. It makes perfect sense if RC got driven with someone who looks town. RC got targeted by a RB, RC got targeted by fishy (who claims to have targeted other with a pro-town action). All of this just says there is a driver here to me, and while roles claiming today were probably correct, especially chrono, it says that fishy isnt our lynch. Troll is (or maybe d3x, or mayyyybe Nico). All three of them should be dead by end of D3 though.

[farside22]

I'm sorry you believe scum so easily to be followed by talks of doing something pro-town that is vague and underminding that you can bypass everything else he decided not to say Llama.

[Jack]

Fishy could be scum with a very well done fake claim. But if he is, he's outed scum and at worse we are giving the scum an extra roleblock or two. If we'd quicklynched him today we would have gotten jack in terms of reads on people. Now we have known scum in d3x who we can lynch.

[StrangerCoug]

@SC: Elaborate on why farside is scummy. Explain how her actions benefit scum.

A policy lynch is an excuse not to take a player's actions into account when deciding who is scummy or not. It's like saying "Oh, this guy is of no use, so let's dispose of him." Anti-information = scummy.

psst Coug, just paraphrase UK where she said "A scum tracker WOULD be something Vi would do. And any lynch that's not mafia is a mislynch FOR the mafia. "

Didn't UncertainKitten say she didn't want people helping me come up with a defense?

HoS: Jack.

[popsofctown]

## unvote, Vote: Jack

He's not anywhere near denying being a cult leader, and I feel much less assured that he is non-hostile.

[popsofctown]

##Vote: Jack