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and RedCoyote was RB'd, claims no result on his investigation.
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Fishy: Tracker? RB?ShowHe'sbaaa-aaack
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Apathy = Vanilla [/self-meta]
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So, 3. In a Large Theme.Jack wrote:Motive cop
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Anyway. Was zor complaining about there being a lot of town PR's?
I don't believe Zor was complaining about town PRs. Any PR, scum or town, is a danger to a SK.
I don't know what you're trying to get at here. As usual...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Some stuff:
Jack (RC)
- Disliked his reaction to the whole statistics thing. It reads like “you’re argument defending yourself is right, but you are scummy for making it”, which stinks. This also applies to some other people, I think.
- Other than that though, I don’t see much wrong with him. I don’t particularly think he’s scum. He’s mostly on this list because he’s someone lodged in the back of my mind as likely scum, for reasons I’m now thinking are bad.
Zorblag
- I can’t see anything that gives me a read on Zorblag. I put a fair amount of faith in DGB’s read, based on my experience of her in PYP1. I like the company on this wagon – it seems to be full of sensible protown people, which has got to be a good sign.
pops
- Claim of VT seems off. Fake daykills happen enough that claiming in response to one is weird. Could well be scum glad to have the chance to get a claim in – a claim that avoids the nightkill.
Nico
- I didn’t like his comments on DGB/Zorblag a long time ago.
- I didn’t like the way he switched xvart to pops at a rather convenient time, with no reasons.
- His asking for clarification from chronopie feels like a rolefish, or maybe just wanting to be seen to be measured and cautious. Either way, it doesn’t feel like a townie reaction.
##vote: Nico-
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Where did he say investigation? I don't recall him saying his role is investigative.Chronopie wrote:and RedCoyote was RB'd, claims no result on his investigation.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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@ Fishy
Why aren't you voting for Troll? Nico is not exactly a likely lynch today.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I have a hunch. Maybe wait on Troll a bit. Let me checkDrippingGoofball wrote:@ Fishy
Why aren't you voting for Troll? Nico is not exactly a likely lynch today.
People, please ignore the below, thank you:
DGB, Fishy, Ellibereth.
Llama, farside, imagine.
DDD, Pops, Troll.
Jack, Chrono, Shotty.
Yeah. That next. Others are awesome. Gracias.
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RC iso #13 wrote:I was told that I didn't get any result for my investigation.ShowHe'sbaaa-aaack
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Sorry - is that an answer to something? If so, I can't work out what.Chronopie wrote:Fishy: Tracker? RB?
I'm not town. The question "how is that town?" is the wrong one. The question should be "how is it in the town's interests to lynch me or not".farside22 wrote:
1. You didn't claim going anywhere till I caught you in withholding information. How is that town?Fishythefish wrote:OK. Let's take that slowly.
1. The track on me does not conflict in any way with my claim. I have said why I'm not revealing that action.
2. There's no proof I'm helping the town. Equally, there's no proof that you are town. What, exactly, is the difference? Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. If you think I should be dead, you have a duty to explain why. The burden of proof is on you.
3. You can't trust my word because I admit to playing for my faction. Are you playing for your faction? I'm betting the answer is yes. You claim that faction is the town, I claim mine has the same motives as the town. Where is the difference? Why does that automatically make me less trustworthy than you?
2. Yeah let me out myself that looks so scummy. Hey all did you note I'm a tracker and fishy didn't deny after the fact that he didn't go somewhere.
The cop got a not town results. The person you went to says he was roleblocked and your doing something at night that is for your faction not in town's interest in my view
3) because you with held information which means there is more to what you are not saying that = not trustworthy.
Re: night actions. I've claimed that my night actions will be good for the town. You may or may not believe that, but the fact that they are good for mehas no bearing on that. Here, as elsewhere, the argument "you are working for yourself, so you are working against us" fails.
Do you disbelieve my claim, and, if so, why?
Suppose that my current set of claims is true (including what I'm not telling you). Do you think I should be lynched and, if so, why?-
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Seems like 4 so far.DrippingGoofball wrote:
So, 3. In a Large Theme.Jack wrote:Motive cop
Cop
Tracker
Anyway. Was zor complaining about there being a lot of town PR's?
DGB wrote:Any PR, scum or town, is a danger to a SK.
I don't believe Zor was complaining about town PRs.
I don't know what you're trying to get at here. As usual...
Who were you taking about here then?DGB wrote:And what kind of alignment would complain about there being a lot of PRs?We don't even know if there are a lot of PRs, only that we have a few out early. The thought didn't occur to me to tally up PRs in my head, even unconsciously, because PRs are a good thing. Now, if PRs were a bad thing for me, I would keep track, and maybe voice my displeasure out loud disguised as a neutral comment.-
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@Fishy: You are not town. That is why the town should lynch you. Are you as dumb? Seriously what type of question is that.
Fishy not town = lynch.
How do I know what you did was in the best interest of the town. RC who I clearly tracked you to says nothing happened to him but a RB.
Nothing I see feel about you and my results and the facts at hand says you should be spared another living day.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Farside. Let's say, hypothetically, that for the next 6 days we have people claim non-hostile other, with reason to think that they really are non-hostile other. Maybe they all get outed by a role or something. Would you want to spend the next six days lynching them? That is what "not town = lynch" means.
Find some scum to go after, Fishy will be dead either tomorrow, that night (PGO), or the next day. I'm not worried about leaving an outed role alive. They interact with people.
Do you have any reason to think we don't have bigger fish to fry?-
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Yeah, that is a lot. But we also have all kinds of weirdo factions.Jack wrote:
Seems like 4 so far.DrippingGoofball wrote:
So, 3. In a Large Theme.Jack wrote:Motive cop
Cop
Tracker
Anyway. Was zor complaining about there being a lot of town PR's?
Troll. He complained about PRs. Not Town PRs, but PRs in general. And who would complain about too many PRs? I'm thinking SK.Jack wrote:DGB wrote:I don't believe Zor was complaining about town PRs.Any PR, scum or town, is a danger to a SK.
I don't know what you're trying to get at here. As usual...
Who were you taking about here then?DGB wrote:And what kind of alignment would complain about there being a lot of PRs?We don't even know if there are a lot of PRs, only that we have a few out early. The thought didn't occur to me to tally up PRs in my head, even unconsciously, because PRs are a good thing. Now, if PRs were a bad thing for me, I would keep track, and maybe voice my displeasure out loud disguised as a neutral comment.
Just pointing out that it fits with my meta read of Troll, and his coasting and lack of actual scum hunting. By itself, it's not a scumtell. Just a bit of supporting evidence.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Not town = lynch is an equation which will lose you this game. There are at least 4 more players who have similar roles to me. You cannot afford to lynch 5 players, at least some of whom will be on your side all the time except when they are claiming.
You don't know that what I did was in the best interest of the town. Nor do you know it was not. The fact that RC was roleblocked is certainly a point against me. That he says nothing else happened to him is deeply unsurprising - name some other actions which people are aware of.
A question: if I was tracked to RC, who was roleblocked, and then claimed some other (town) power role when that came out, would you want me lynched?-
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Ellibereth wrote:xvart ( 8 ) Ellibereth LLamaFluff ojanen Nicodemus fishythefish charter UncertainKitten VP Baltar
^^^There's probably more scum/other on this. Guessing Nico.
When did this happen? Until now I remember you having a town read on me, but now you think I'm scum? I realize that I've done nothing today and not much yesterday to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling about my alignment, but to just switch your read like this with no preface at all makes me wonder.Ellibereth wrote:Vig can shoot Nico.
Also, the xvart wagon is different from the fishy wagon because we didn't know xvart's alignment at the time we were wagoning him. So there's really no reason to think that I would be scum/other just because I was on a wagon that eventually flipped other.
I must admit that I feel completely out of my depth in this game. I just got done reading through the thread, and I still have precious few suspicions. I have a history of reading attacks on me as scummy when that's not necessarily the case, but I still feel like DDD has been tunneling on me for the majority of this game, and I think it's because he feels that I'm an easy lynch target. RC is still troublesome in my opinion, and Elli looks worse with his turnaround on my alignment. However, Shotty to the Body's recent posting does nothing for me, and that added to his lurking (yes, pot and kettle, etc.) leads me to
##Vote: Shotty to the BodyYthan, on my play: "Scummy and bad are not the same. Some players manage to keep them separate, though I applaud how masterfully you blend them."-
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How's the cult doing, Jack?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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These fishy type non-hostile other roles better claim well before L-1. Mafia can claim it now without worrying about a counterclaim. But are less likely to do so when only a few votes are on them.Ellibereth wrote:
A few days ago.Nico wrote:When did this happen?
Am I the only one that wants all the non-obvtown people to claim?-
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If you actually claimed hey I went somewhere last night before I caught you in a lie then maybe I might have let it slide but since you with held info. Consider me not changing my vote.Fishythefish wrote: A question: if I was tracked to RC, who was roleblocked, and then claimed some other (town) power role when that came out, would you want me lynched?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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