Mini 968 - Bastard Mass Effect (Game Over)

[VP Baltar]

More posting people.

[Limerickx]

I'd be willing to name claim for the reasons mentioned above.

Still don't like Parama pretending he has a 'case' against DB. I have no idea why you're stubbornly sticking to an admitted 'gut feeling' to the extent you are.

[Parama]

Still don't like Parama pretending he has a 'case' against DB. I have no idea why you're stubbornly sticking to an admitted 'gut feeling' to the extent you are.

I like my gut feelings.

[Limerickx]

At this point, I'd prefer if you said 'I have a reason that I can't talk about.'

Liking your gut feeling is one thing, and something I can at least sympathize with. When you EXPECT other people to go along with you based on your gut feeling, however, is when it start to get nutso.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't think a nameclaim would accomplish ANYTHING. The flavor of this game seems to be that some of the crew on the Normandy are planning a mutiny against Shepard. All a nameclaim would do is likely result in only listing off a shortlist of the Normandy crew members (Shepard, Liara, Garris, Tali, Joker, Wrex, Ashley, Jack, Thane, etc.) and give us no indication of who's scum, but give scum the ability to guess the flavor and find the power roles.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

I doubt Shepard's in the game, judging from the flavour text, unless it's the mod.

I agree with xRECKONERx for the nameclaim. VP Balter, why do you support it?

[VP Baltar]

I can think of a very good reason to do it and if you can't (it's very clearly implied in thread), I'm not going to explain it.

All I will say is that Reck's reasoning of the scum figuring out PRs makes no sense. If you are going to on the one hand say that role names mean nothing toward alignment (and I don't think they do), you can't on the other hand say that they mean something toward the type of role.

Nor does it help them guess flavor. People against name claiming look suspicious to me.

Also, Parama lynch is still top notch.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

I still think Kerristar's scummy. Col. Cathart's idea didn't call for a nameclaim, and Kerristar didn't say "well, that's not what we were thinking of", they didn't say anything. They weren't even clear on what they wanted until lately. Besides which, there's the vote on Doombunny9, obvious wagon-hopping, and the contradiction with Limerickx, which comes off as very scummy.

I'll support a Parama lynch, but he still looks newbie town to me.

[VP Baltar]

I'm not saying he doesn't look scummy really. I just see one possible very town reason if his intentions of the name claim were honest. If we're giving Kerristar a night to live, then I'd like to nameclaim and play along for now.

If you trust me at all to be town MMM, then trust me on this one thing. I think by tomorrow we should be able to clear things up.

Anyhow, if I don't hear any other objections to the name claiming, I'm going to go ahead with it. Also, the lurkers really need to stop. I'm going to do an activity check tonight if I have time.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

I don't think a nameclaim would accomplish ANYTHING. The flavor of this game seems to be that some of the crew on the Normandy are planning a mutiny against Shepard. All a nameclaim would do is likely result in only listing off a shortlist of the Normandy crew members (Shepard, Liara, Garris, Tali, Joker, Wrex, Ashley, Jack, Thane, etc.) and give us no indication of who's scum, but give scum the ability to guess the flavor and find the power roles.

[Col.Cathart]

I don't think a nameclaim would accomplish ANYTHING. The flavor of this game seems to be that some of the crew on the Normandy are planning a mutiny against Shepard. All a nameclaim would do is likely result in only listing off a shortlist of the Normandy crew members (Shepard, Liara, Garris, Tali, Joker, Wrex, Ashley, Jack, Thane, etc.) and give us no indication of who's scum, but give scum the ability to guess the flavor and find the power roles.

All I will say is that Reck's reasoning of the scum figuring out PRs makes no sense. If you are going to on the one hand say that role names mean nothing toward alignment (and I don't think they do), you can't on the other hand say that they mean something toward the type of role.

Also,

unvote

vote: Parama

Sadly, looks like bv is not going down today, so I'll go with Parama who's not a bad lynch either (for reasoning check my post 92).

[animorpherv1]

@VP:

You have a good reason, but it's not good enough to Explain? Sounds scummy.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

Agreed. VP Balter, explain why a nameclaim is a good idea. Hell, even talking about a nameclaim is distracting from scumhunting.

[Doombunny9]

Ok, I've asked Parama three times and I still don't have an answer. I am pretty much ready to vote him (Want to wait until a votecount comes up so I don't accidently end the day).

@Parama- I'll ask you ONE more time (even though I doubt you'll listen): Where did you come up with the conclusion that I have an ulterior motive from my "Lets end the 'I hate the massclaim because blah blah blah' discussion"

[Parama]

I'm not newbie town, MMM. I just play differently than what most people on this site agree with.
Doombunny, I answered already, probably 5 times. It's a gut feeling. And I like my gut feelings.
I do not support any form of claiming, if you're wondering.

[animorpherv1]

In case I didn't make it obvious the first time:

I do not support any form of claiming, if you're wondering.

[VP Baltar]

I cannot talk about my reason for name claiming at this point. I would be happy to tell you guys tomorrow (most likely). I've yet to hear a legitimate reason against name claiming, so unless someone has a good one stop complaining and let's come up with our format.

I suggest everyone just claims in their next post, since order is mostly irrelevant. However, I'd also be willing to do a popcorn claim if people are going to be around and actually post.

In terms of scumhunting, the Parama lynch is really the only thing viable today given the short deadline. I don't plan to move my vote.

Parama, if you're at like L-2 or L-1 you should probably full claim.

Mod, vote count please. Can you please prod lukepukeduke and bv310 as well. Thanks.

[xRECKONERx]

VPB, I don't know how familiar you are with the games, but nameclaiming would mean nothing about ALIGNMENT since all the good guys are potential bad guys, but it COULD mean something about roles. For example, if someone claimed to be one of the tech users like Legion, it might lend itself to a tracker-type role due to the flavor from the games moreso than someone like, say, Joker, who wouldn't really make sense as a tracker.

I think there is nothing to gain from nameclaiming for town, while there is at least a small possibility of something to gain for scum.

PS, Parama's "it's my gut lololol just accept it" play has me ready to throw down a vote on him.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

Parama is a jester. He actually weakened his case from 'ulterior motive' to 'gut instinct'. VP Balter is scummy, and I'm not claiming.

[VP Baltar]

VPB, I don't know how familiar you are with the games, but nameclaiming would mean nothing about ALIGNMENT since all the good guys are potential bad guys, but it COULD mean something about roles. For example, if someone claimed to be one of the tech users like Legion, it might lend itself to a tracker-type role due to the flavor from the games moreso than someone like, say, Joker, who wouldn't really make sense as a tracker.

How many fucking times do I have to say it? My reason has nothing to do with names being related to alignments. Additionally, most mods aren't going to put characters with that direct of links to their roles. Doing so would be stupid and make your game very difficult for the scum.

@Kerristar - Why are you lurking again? Is the reason you want a nameclaim the same reason that I have been saying it's a good idea today?

[Parama]

He actually weakened his case from 'ulterior motive' to 'gut instinct'.

I have a gut feel that he has an ulterior motive. I thought I made this clear.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

@ Parama: Even if he does have an ulterior motive, how do you know it's a scummy one?

[VP Baltar]

@MMM - why do you assume my motive for massclaim is scummy when you obviously don't understand it?

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

Because I cannot think of a motive that helps town.

[Parama]

@ Parama: Even if he does have an ulterior motive, how do you know it's a scummy one?

Ulterior motive implies not town <.<