Mini 968 - Bastard Mass Effect (Game Over)

[animorpherv1]

Hi. I've been half following the game. I'm gonan do a quick read through, then post.

[Parama]

@ Parama: What are your other scum reads? Do you have any more points in your case against Doombunny9 besides the 'other motive against massclaim' theory?

There's scum in the lurker group for sure (bv, ani, luke) but I won't be able to tell which until they actually start posting. This is just a theory coming from experience.
Kerristar looks pretty scummy to me, for reasons pointed out that I don't feel like restating, namely the reaction to the massclaim suggestion as well as the contradiction you pointed out in 106.

But I still like my Doom vote the best. It's not that I don't understand the logic for a Kerri lynch - I just like my vote better.

[animorpherv1]

To those who said I haven't posted once:

hello.

1. Sometimes. Early game only, IMO.

2. Scumy? No. Uselss in Bstard games? Yes.

3.LML - Lynch Most Liars

4. I have very, very little experience. Like I said before, I've seen some stuff in Gamepro, but that's it.

I agree with Reck on Massclaim:

I'm going to say a massclaim on D1 is a bad idea. Nameclaim wouldn't accomplish anything. Let's bring this idea up again D3.

Parama is town - Doing much better than in [ongoing game].

[Parama]

Oh and for additional points on Doombunny see my post 81.

[Kerristar]

@Kerristar - Do you still think nameclaim is a good idea?

For our role, it wouldn't be a bad idea. It is not something we demand, however.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

@ Parama: So, you think Doombunny9 is scum because of the 'ulterior motive' and... because I questioned your reasoning?

[Doombunny9]

Ok, there's been a lot since I've last checked in so I'm going to type out this post as I read so i don't miss anything so if anything changes its probably because I saw something that changed my mind.

@ Doombunny9: You've said you would be happy with a lynch of C.C, Kerristar, or Parama. Which do you prefer, and why?

As I have said they are all about equal to me and I'll be waiting until I hear more from everyone until I make up my decision. If I had to choose right now however it would be the cols for reasons already stated.

I gave my reason - it was a feeling that he had something to hide. I gave the line that made me feel that way. Nobody else seems to get the same feeling, but I can't deny that I have it. So, I've explained it as best as I can. Whether you choose to agree with me or not is up to you.

Yet you don't tell anything about your feeling. Again I ask, how does asking to stop the pointlessness give you a feeling that I have something to hide?

I will

Unvote

for now and keep it this way until I hear answers from the following people:

The Col/Kerri-Can you go in depth about why you wanted nameclaims? This is a bastard mafia after all so names won't help us that much.
Kerri- If you could kill three people right now who would they be (meaning your top three scumpicks ) You aren't saying that much about who scum is/scumhunting but mainly about a massclaim. All we've heard from you on this is Me=scum and limerick=town.
Parama- Answer my question? How did you come up with this "Doom has something to hide" theory?

[Parama]

@ Parama: So, you think Doombunny9 is scum because of the 'ulterior motive' and... because I questioned your reasoning?

No, because of his ulterior motive that I get from his post as well as contradicting himself on a Limerick read.

Parama- Answer my question? How did you come up with this "Doom has something to hide" theory?

Gut feeling, like I said.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

as well as contradicting himself on a Limerick read.

Sorry? Where was that?

[Parama]

'tis what you said here

The only person I see with a reasonable point against us is Limerickx, although misguided.

Implies Limerickx is town.

I see scum hoping for a quick policy lynch on inactivity.

Implies Limerickx is scum.

[Parama]

whoops that is the wrong person
ffs I need to read better

[Parama]

post 81 I'm saying he's letting other people do the work for him and not doing any scumhunting of his own

plz ignore the fail of my previous 2 posts for I am a derp

[lukepukeduke]

ukepukeduke: Um... who?

I do not know if there is a question to this

Are we mass claiming? I was reading through the thread and saw someone said we were...

IDK if we are though.. if we are I don't mind claiming

I read through the thread as much as I could and

I

vote : Kerristar

[VP Baltar]

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Parama is town - Doing much better than in [ongoing game]

Do you have any meta from completed games where you know his alignment? I don't see how "doing better" = town. He doesn't appear to be doing so well anyhow if you ask me.

For our role, it wouldn't be a bad idea. It is not something we demand, however.

Sigh. I actually just wanted a yes or no from you because I figured it might have been something related to this. I actually do not mind name claiming if this is the case.

If anyone has any reason why we should NOT name claim, please say so the next time you post. I don't want to claim roles this early, but names don't bother me.

As I have said they are all about equal to me and I'll be waiting until I hear more from everyone until I make up my decision. If I had to choose right now however it would be the cols for reasons already stated.

At what point do you plan on deciding? We're four days from deadline, so optimally we'd need to have someone at L-1 in the next day or so to allow time for a claim and an assessment of it.

The Col/Kerri-Can you go in depth about why you wanted nameclaims? This is a bastard mafia after all so names won't help us that much.

Please don't answer this.

Vote: Parama

[Parama]

Looks like a case of "vote doesn't logically follow the post" syndrome.

[VP Baltar]

The logic is the lack in your cases. It's pretty self-evident.

[Parama]

I've already explained my Doombunny case. I can't do anymore to convince you guys about it.

[Doombunny9]

Are we mass claiming? I was reading through the thread and saw someone said we were...

IDK if we are though.. if we are I don't mind claiming

I read through the thread as much as I could and

Obviously you haven't been reading the thread or you'd see that almost everyone said they were against massclaiming. Also, vote with no reason FTL, please explain your vote.

At what point do you plan on deciding? We're four days from deadline, so optimally we'd need to have someone at L-1 in the next day or so to allow time for a claim and an assessment of it.

Learn to read? Just after that I said I'd vote after I heard from everyone on the questions I asked (or if it gets closer to deadline ) Also, why should they not answer this. I too have nothing against name claims (won't help scum out much) but on the flip side, they won't help town much either

Also, way to ignore the question Parama. This post will be the THIRD time I've asked you. Can you please explain how you came to the conclusion that I'm hiding something from that one post (you know what I'm talking about).

[Doombunny9]

EBWOP: Doh, I feel retarded.

lso, why should they not answer this. I too have nothing against name claims (won't help scum out much) but on the flip side, they won't help town much either

Doh, missed the obvious reason for this. No need to answer the question. Also, I am all for a nameclaim as long as we don't claim roles

[Col.Cathart]

DB: so... you still want me to answer your question or not?

(for the record: nameclaim is not bad either, and I'm all for it)

Last posts of ani and luke are horrible. Still very comfortable with lynching them.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

Doh, I feel retarded.

Please, no need for that.

I am against a nameclaim, because it will serve only to delay scumhunting. As I've said, town has nothing to gain.

[animorpherv1]

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Parama is town - Doing much better than in [ongoing game]

Do you have any meta from completed games where you know his alignment? I don't see how "doing better" = town. He doesn't appear to be doing so well anyhow if you ask me.

I don't belive so. He seems more pro-town to me than in that game.

[Doombunny9]

DB: so... you still want me to answer your question or not?

No, there is no reason to answer it. However, i still want the questions I directed to kerristar and parama answered.

I am against a nameclaim, because it will serve only to delay scumhunting. As I've said, town has nothing to gain.

I don't believe it will delay scumhunting all that much. Can we not have both scumhunting with a brief claim of names? Even though claims won't help us out much flavor wise, we can still look for cc's and stuff (assuming scum don't have safeclaims).

[VP Baltar]

I am against a nameclaim, because it will serve only to delay scumhunting. As I've said, town has nothing to gain.

It doesn't have to delay anything actually. You only need to put it as a single line in your post. And even if you think the town has nothing to gain from it (which isn't true, I can think of a very good way the town could gain), what does it hurt the town to do it?

[xRECKONERx]

@MMM: Col was listed in Doom's scum list, IIRC. It's late now.

PS, something's off about LPD.