Scummers Mafia: Greatest Bash? (Game Over, Scum wins?)

[ZazieR]

Vote Ortolan

for obv reasons.

More to follow when I have time

[ZazieR]

Ohohohoho, I'm back with my whip and black fluffy handcuffs >:]
Before I start:

I know that someone, Kublai Khan, has claimed miller as scum and survived through endgame and win.

Good times XD
(Psst, he won with some help from me )

So, on to the second part:
Monkey is scum. The whole thingy of him FoSing Spy, then discrediting Sens and then going the 'I do not want to come across as scummy' is enough for me.
Monkey, please state how the claim from Spy makes him look suspicious.

Orto needs to explain how serious those FoSes were.
As for your question:
-I'd have used my black fluffy handcuffs on Ani or RisingPhoenix (You played in The Ocarina of Time mafia from Tarhalindur, right?) if I had a kill as town.
-I'd have used my whip against you, Spy or Papa Z, depending if one of the three isn't scum with me had I been scum.
Question: Why did you ask?

I like how ortolan is thinking, so far. It's just...such a shame that he is actually scum trying to look town.

Do. Elaborate.

[ZazieR]

@Maskie
Seriously, I'm curious as to whom you are I might turn that mode on, but I'm looking forward so much to using my whip and fluffy black handcuffs on Orto >:]
Serious reason: I need more posts before my feast can begin

Still Monkey and Orto are scum, so the feast is getting ready to start, Ohohohoho.


Monkey still needs to explain why Spyrex's claim makes him look suspicious.

And my Maskie love starts to grow. If Orto is indeed scum, Kunk is his partner. Manho too is a possibility.
Kunk for his 'passive' statement against Maskie's post about Orto-scum.
('Passive' as I get the impression that he's testing the waters, due to the word 'beginning'.)
Manho as for his stalling and the two faced position towards the topic. One thinks Maskie is stretching, yet the other still wants an explanation from Orto.

Speaking about Manho, don't like his vote. The insane part gives him a reason to backtrack. Also, can you tell why you're getting a town gut feeling from Monkey and why you think your gut is insane?

I want MM to respond to Cuttle(fish)Nik's vote, because I don't read it like that.

[ZazieR]

Orto, I have no intention of claiming. Please state your reason for wanting one.
Also, the part about the Ocarina of Time wasn't aimed at you, but at Phoenix.

But Orto, thanks for helping me find the answer to the thing I wanted to know. You can die now.

[ZazieR]

Orto, I have no intention of claiming. Please state your reason for wanting one.
Also, the part about the Ocarina of Time wasn't aimed at you, but at Phoenix.

But Orto, thanks for helping me find the answer to the thing I wanted to know. You can die now.

FoS: zazie

, it would be a vote if i didn't have the gut investigation result on monkey.

you should claim.

Why?
Orto is scum, so I can see why he wants me to claim. What's your reason?

REMINDER: Manho is sooooooo Orto's partner.

[ZazieR]

Orto, I have no intention of claiming. Please state your reason for wanting one.
Also, the part about the Ocarina of Time wasn't aimed at you, but at Phoenix.

But Orto, thanks for helping me find the answer to the thing I wanted to know. You can die now.

FoS: zazie

, it would be a vote if i didn't have the gut investigation result on monkey.

you should claim.

Why?
Orto is scum, so I can see why he wants me to claim. What's your reason?

REMINDER: Manho is sooooooo Orto's partner.

if you are town, you should consider the town vs town situation first. calling a soft-claimed person scum is anti-town. so, are you sure it is not a town vs town situation?

If you're saying that I should consider the discussion between me and Orto as possibly town VS town, then you can stop suggesting this now.
Orto was for me almost certainly scum when the day started. With the posts he has posted so far, this has only been reinforced.

Orto, please tell why my reactions are scummy. Because with only 3 players so far who want to hear me claim, I'm not going to. It seems that you want to claim that you have some information on me.
1. I'm positive that the one you want to state is going to be false.
2. You're scum.


Why Manho is your scum partner?
-Stalling in favor of you.
-Giving himself the possibility of backtracking regarding Monkey.
-Believing that you have information on me that condemns me as scum, yet not asking what, believing you as well, but not voting me.

the first and the third reasons condemns him as your scumpartner as me getting killed will result in your death too.
Two is usefull if he's scum and thinks MM is town.


Papa Z, check my posts again and you'll see that DGB's quote can't be used against me.


If the majority wants me to claim, I'll do so. But I'm not gonna help scum-Orto without any good reason.

[ZazieR]

unvote, vote: zazie

that's L-2.

Seriously. Players just believing one player without any questions asked.
Why I refused to claim:
I investigated Orto N0 and the result I got is that he is scum.
And for those who want my character name, I'm UncertainKitten for those who couldn't tell. Wasn't my black handcuffs and my whip (UK is pretending to be FL as everybody knows ) enough?

[ZazieR]

I didn't breadcrumb it in any way?
Seriously Orto, check my ISO and get back to me.

UK is a player who states that she isn't good at catching scum, so the cop ability is a way to help me. (Dramoni knows this as she has stated it in a large game both of them played.)

Also, Orto, it's funny how you haven't showed your claim yet.

And CuttleNik, how does that prove me as scum?

[ZazieR]

Scum: Ani, Monkey, CuttleNick and a special place is for Orto.
Star, Spy and Cow are town.

[ZazieR]

Zazie obviously killed Hoopla which means

the scum faction's first victim was Netopalis

. Also hammer now please

Haha, at bolded. You just outed yourself as scum.
And no, I didn't kill Hoopla.

[ZazieR]

@Star
Look at my bolding at post 161 in Orto's quote. How can Orto know which faction killed whom? I know. He knows. Now you should know as well.

[ZazieR]

Oh, and a P.S.
I'll most likely be absent for tonight and tomorrow. So you'll have to wait for me on friday.

[ZazieR]

But Orto, post 161 is waiting for your attention.
Please respond to it.

[ZazieR]

once we've lynched Zazie, I would definitely look at the following players:

Papa Zito

THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA

The first part is already bad
But hey, remember that I said that when you look back at my posts, that your reason for voting me isn't present? Now that I've claimed, try it again.

[ZazieR]

the same can be said in the opposite way as well. If Orto is lynched, it will most likely be a 1-1 trade as well.
So it comes down to who you believe the most, me or Orto. In other words, I suggest everyone to look back and to make a decision.

[ZazieR]

I find orto more credible since it seems like you pulled the claim out of {REDACTED}

Reasons?

[ZazieR]

First off, I'm the type of guy who is more careful. When I started the day, I tried to hint at my result, hoping that it would become clear that I have a guilty on Orto. And only claim it if it gets absolutely needed. Hence why I waited to see if other players wanted me to claim.
The 'if' part was also at that time.

Future tense as it states the whip. When do you use handcuffs or rope and a possibly a whip? If you can't guess it, try thinking of me in leather (But I don't think you want to do that XD)
It's me joking around.

[ZazieR]

'If' doesn't weaken my hints when I've given multiple ones.
That second quote comes from the time that the Zaz VS Orto started to develop. Not careful anymore at that point.

It's become a habit.
Secondly, I normally use 'if he is scum, which I think he is'. I didn't use it this time, doesn't change anything.
I'm not a computer who reminds what he has to state each time