Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[Lowell]

@az- there being one cop has ABSOLUTELY nothign to do with there being two cops. Your argument is meaningless.

@lobster- okay hotshot, lay it on me. Let's hear these secret reasons of yours.

[Azelf]

Remembered it. Its unnecessary because if they are both scum they can just confirm each other, and that screws town.

Its just as likely for any player to be cop, as each cop chance is independent of the rest, according to the the setup.

So you're saying rolling a six-sided die twice and getting two sixes is just as likely as rolling a six-sided die twice and getting one six. And that every math teacher I've ever had is completely incorrect.

Also, thanks for explaining your reasoning; that's a very good point.

@az- there being one cop has ABSOLUTELY nothign to do with there being two cops. Your argument is meaningless.

@lobster- okay hotshot, lay it on me. Let's hear these secret reasons of yours.

I explained my reasoning for the "one cop" theory above.

And even if there somehow is two cops, there is absolutely no excuse for a real cop to survive the night on their own after claiming. (Last night's could be explained by a doctor, but the night before was completely inexplicable.)

Finally, you might want to try some new tactics. Our good friend Dana has already shown us all what a great defense claiming people's arguments are meaningless without actually disproving them is.

[Gayle]

I'm really lazy when it comes to this game.

Now, there is probably a doctor. I find it hard to believe that mafia did not send in a night kill, especially looking at how quickly this night passed relative to night 1. And if there is a doctor, the doctor likely did not protect Lowell. Why? Because if the doctor protected lowell, he could claim and confirm the alignment of 3 other players, which would be a huge advantage. The doctor isn't claiming, so we can assume he protected someone else. And if that is the case, then scum didn't try to kill lowell for the second night in a row.

So, I'm suggesting that we lynch Lowell. If he is telling the truth, we at least get two confirmed townies in exchange and town will actually focus on other players instead of just Lowell. If he is scum, we get the obvious advantage of one scum dead and eliminate the confusion of his claim and 'investigations'.

Vote:Lowell

I'll try to make a 'why lowell is scummy' post later. But knowing me, later may be 'several days from now'.

[Lowell]

So what exactly happens here? You lynch me or out the doc? That's really the best we can do?

[Gheb]

No it's not we lynch inactives first.

[Lowell]

vote hewitt

Well this game is dying. Here's one of the worst offenders.

[lobstermania]

vote hewitt

Well this game is dying. Here's one of the worst offenders.

NO. Not at all......!!!

We need to get everyone back or replaced before we start trying to lynch people!

[Gheb]

We've been trying to do that like two weeks ago already. I even question the mods activity at this point. Might as well endgame here.

[JacobSavage]

^Agree with last post, Stupid Mass Claim anyone?

[Gayle]

I'm fine with ending the game.

Anyone object?

[Lowell]

meh. doesn't seem to be much hope of reviving.

[lobstermania]

Then I'll spill the beans. I'm the doc. Fifi protected Lowell night one, and I protected Wdjat night two. I find it odd that the scum wouldn't try to kill the claimed doc on either night with no proof of a doc in the game. Kunk has been acting quite bossy and full of himself ever since Lowell vouched for him. If Lowell turns up scum I would place money that Kunk is his partner.

Vote: Lowell

[Lowell]

Well it's a start for activity, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Azelf]

No it's not we lynch inactives first.

Remember, trying to derail scumhunting by telling the town to lynch someone you want them to is totally an advisable strategy.

vote hewitt

Well this game is dying. Here's one of the worst offenders.

I find it awfully convenient that the game is "dying" at exactly the same time that people are scumhunting you.

Then I'll spill the beans. I'm the doc. Fifi protected Lowell night one, and I protected Wdjat night two. I find it odd that the scum wouldn't try to kill the claimed doc on either night with no proof of a doc in the game. Kunk has been acting quite bossy and full of himself ever since Lowell vouched for him. If Lowell turns up scum I would place money that Kunk is his partner.

Vote: Lowell

Actually, I think that Kunk would probably be Lowell's partner too. Interesting.

Anyways, thanks for the info; this pretty much seals it. There is now no possible way Lowell is a cop.
Also, didn't you mean "claimed cop"?

Well it's a start for activity, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Say, would you care to explain how you survived two nights in a row without a doctor protecting you either night?

[Lowell]

1) Maybe a doctor

did

protect me.

2) Scum thought a doctor would be protecting me.

3) Scum wanted to set up a "hey Lowell didn't die!" situation, getting the town to do their work for them.

Take your pick.

[lobstermania]

Also, didn't you mean "claimed cop"?

Yes, I did. Thanks for clearing that up.

Say, would you care to explain how you survived two nights in a row without a doctor protecting you either night?

Well actually, the1fifi protected Lowell night one.

[Gheb]

Option 3 is garbage. That's way too much WIFOM and too risky for scum to play. Option 2 is the only one that's somewhat realistic.

[Lowell]

3 is unlikely, not impossible. 1 and 2 are both very very possible.

[Azelf]

1) Maybe a doctor

did

protect me.

2) Scum thought a doctor would be protecting me.

3) Scum wanted to set up a "hey Lowell didn't die!" situation, getting the town to do their work for them.

Take your pick.

1.

Another

doctor? Yeah, right.

2. Considering the small odds of a doctor appearing, most scum would think it worth the risk if they had a chance to kill the cop.

3. And let a possible cop investigate someone over the night, perhaps even finding one of them guilty? Unlikely.

Overall, you've just been making paltry excuses for your continued survival after roleclaim, and the town's somehow eaten it up. It's shocking that you've even survived this long.

Also, didn't you mean "claimed cop"?

Yes, I did. Thanks for clearing that up.

Say, would you care to explain how you survived two nights in a row without a doctor protecting you either night?

Well actually, the1fifi protected Lowell night one.

True, but that was the night the scum decided to kill someone else... so that's still fairly inexplicable.

[kunkstar7]

Claimed doctor changes things. I'm always too trusting of claims.

Vote: Lowell

, looking at the protection targets Lowell has no reason to be alive today. On the offchance that Lowell is indeed cop, well that just confirms his results. Would like your "results" from last night before you go Lowell.

[Lowell]

There's some idiocy going on here.

[Azelf]

Because I don't particularly feel like being prodded right now.

[Gayle]

>>Implying that the mod is actually around to prod people

[Gheb]

Which explains why we still don't have a votecount on this page even though it's at least 8 days -____-

[Azelf]

>>Implying that the mod is actually around to prod people

Good point is good.

I'm beginning to think somebody should prod the moderator. -_-