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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri May 07, 2010 4:29 pm

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Riceballtail wrote:Prod received... for less than 48 hours? @_@
Oops—I copied and pasted names from the first post, which has a typo in your name. I'll check your last two posts, and if they're closer together than 72 hours, I won't count the prod towards your two.

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And they are. Sorry about that.

And...

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Lowell (3): Seraphim, Twomz, Chronopie
Pittbunny (1): Toogeloo
Riceballtail (1): yabbaguy
Shattered Viewpoint (6): Fate, Pittbunny, kunkstar7, JacobSavage, Lowell, animorpherv1
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri May 07, 2010 10:46 pm

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Just ISO Shattered, FakeGod. That's all you really need to do right now to put your vote where it belongs.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 3:49 am

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My first reaction: "wait what? The technique known as ISO has been shattered?"

Then....ooohhhhhHHHHHH.

I guess I could take a small break from test prep. Gimme a sec.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 4:03 am

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"I took a speed reading course and read Tolstoy's War and Peace in about 20 minutes. It involves Russia."

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and reading 10 pages in 10 minutes was just as helpful. :/

@Fate: the faster way would be to just convince me why it's Shattered, instead of making me make wrong assumptions and falsely interpret stuff in 10 minutes. :/ I guess I'll be back to read your reasoning later.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 4:08 am

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ISO him and tell me if he's done anything even remotes pro-town.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 4:44 am

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Understood.

Post 0: He says miller might not know they're miller.
Post 1-4: spams over period of 25 minutes exact same post which interpreted Pittsbunny's post in a bad light.
Post 5: apologizes for spamming.
Post 6: explains why he asked about millers
Post 7: wants to vote Lowell, a popular suspicious character, or not? Apparently gives him a small chance.
Post 8: Angryness at people attacking him.
Post 9: Explains why he's right due to circumstances and timing.

Hmm spamming doesn't help town much. Neither do discussing hypothetical miller situations. Nor acting like he got the power to let Lowell, who was a popular target at the time, live. Seems like he just rides the flow of the discussions.

Before voting him, let me go check his vote count quick.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 4:45 am

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Vote: Shattered Viewpoint


L-2 I believe.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 5:22 am

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based on what I've read, SV will give reasons for his actions listed in my ISO. (probably something the along the lines of, 1-4 was internet problem, 6 was just explaining his question, 8 was just responding to accusations against him and so on)

Because I'll probably be gone for awhile due to test prep, I'll post my responses to the anticipated responses.

Internet problem's understandable and all, but for 25 minutes? and for 4 times in a row? with people posting between your posts? You can't say that doesn't look fishy.

Explain your post 7.

I will close-reread 8. But it gave me a strong impression that you were just angry at people for voting/accusing you.

Please explain why lynching SV is bad. D1 lynch, after all, often the least-informed of the lynches, a thing closest to a Random Lynch. It's not that bad to be eliminated d1 if you know your presence will waste investigations or cause further confusions among the townspeople, which could certainly be the case.

Fate's case against you is that you didn't do anything to help town. Your response?

On another note, people I do encourage caution for secret doublevoters.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 5:29 am

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FakeGod's preprepared responses to SV feel off to me, as I don't see its necessary to preempt your suspect if you feel strongly about your case.

Also, where does the doublevoter comment come from?
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 6:03 am

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SV should claim in his next post.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 6:24 am

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@Fate
I personally have a neutral read on SV at the moment. Most of his mistakes haven't screamed at me as scummy behavior to be honest. I am more comfortable with a Pitt or Lowell lynch today to be honest. At the moment, it seems there is plenty of pressure on SV anyways. You don't my vote to help you end Day 1 too early.


SV is not the first person to get close to lynching this game. Out of curiousity, why should he be the first to claim after reaching that benchmark (L-2)? Why did we not ask Seraphim(Sens) or Lowell to claim when they neared a possible lynch themselves? I would agree that at L-1, a player should claim if they haven't yet though.


Personally, I find SVs potential lynch just a little too easy. Granted he didn't look the best on his defense, and he may be getting bussed by his mates, but still, this lynch appears to be happening with little resistance. Still, this is one of the main problems I have with bandwagons. They make lynches look too easy, and upon analysis make it difficult to tell if the person is scum or just an easy mislynch. I like conversation that is more divided because it shows people's convictions one way or another.

I could be wrong and stuck on my opinion of Pitt and Lowell though, but lynching a bad town player on Day 1 wouldn't be some historical new happening either. Granted, I would take bad town over obvtown lynch any day (except LyLo), but I would prefer it not be so in the dark, especially since we still have plenty of discussion time remaining.


Day 1 is the only time of the game we will get the opportunity for complete interactions from all players in the game. I'd rather not rush it just yet.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 6:33 am

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kunkstar7 wrote:FakeGod's preprepared responses to SV feel off to me, as I don't see its necessary to preempt your suspect if you feel strongly about your case.

Also, where does the doublevoter comment come from?
Absolutely agree, esp about the preemptive responses. Also people who go out of their way to mention how busy and distracted they are generally give me scummy vibes.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 11:31 am

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Sometimes the people who scumhunt by trolling (Fate) are the biggest geniuses when reactions like Shattered's ISO-8 come out brimming with emotion like that. I think beneath that lashing out of emotion, there's fear that he's about to be flipped as scum by someone he perceives to be an idiot. I'd like a claim from him as well, but I think he's a good choice.

Let's not lynch though even after the claim *just* yet. Starbuck wants to reread and Twomz (that I know of off-hand) could use a tad more content. I also demand an explanation from Riceballtail on why I'm being voted that doesn't lamely borrow from LOLcats. It's not fair to me to be voted like that.

leafs: I've offered explanations in my posts already why what I do is pro-town. It's your burden of proof why my explanations are implausible. It's not flailing, it's not "batting away", it's called prove why I'm wrong or forget it. Don't you dare personally attack me and say I don't know how to play this game.

You're also tunneling because you have failed to give direct acknowledgment of ANY other player in the game- all you've said is "L-1 speedwagons are stupid" (this one isn't) and that's about the extent of it. I'm completely deflecting here, but you're not looking. You instead have locked onto me solely because I had what you believed to be a flawed strategy, and now whenever I try to explain it and all your other accusations, instead of saying "Well that's false because [blank]" you instead say "Really? To me it looks like [blank]" without once mentioning my stance on the issue.

I'm not going to explain this again, leafs. You're going to be a detriment to us in endgame if you continue to belligerently go after one person and twist all words to the scummiest extent possible and not acknowledge town POVs. They are there. I'm saying them. Or am I crazy?

And I never called you scum. Or hinted at calling you scum. Why is this suddenly becoming one of the points of your debate?

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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 1:51 pm

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@Kunk + Lowell: Sorry if my prepared responses seem bit off, (I usually don't do that kind of stuff), but I'm in middle of AP Testing Prep. (I have explained this in other games I am currently in, including one where SC is modding).

I usually check back here quite regularly. But I knew that I wouldn't be able to engage the game very often for few days, so I used the time I had to formulate a response before logging off.

hmm...I expected an response from SV by now. O well.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 1:53 pm

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@Toog:

Because, not everyone has posted yet after Fate posted the "WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS VOTING SV" statement, I'm afraid someone will accidentally hammer. I wasn't afraid of it w/ the Seraphim/Lowell wagons.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:00 pm

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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:02 pm

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Okay. I'm VT. I have no powers besides my vote.

If I am lynched today, look closely at Fate for
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:33 pm

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VT in a flavor game?

EH OH EL.

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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:39 pm

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Question: what's a VT?
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:46 pm

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Vanilla-Townie.

I think VT's should be renamed "Twinkies".
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:53 pm

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Why no nameclaim?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 2:58 pm

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Because the Vanilla PM wasn't posted with the rules, so scum don't know what to claim.

PILE THE **** ON SV COME ON PEOPLE.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 3:17 pm

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The lack of a name claim really makes no sense. yabba is right.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 3:18 pm

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unvote, Vote: Shattered Viewpoint


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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2010 3:24 pm

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I'm waiting on Our Esteemed Mod to reply to my paraphrase inquiry.

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