Lay of Leithian Mafia: Game Over!

[Papa Zito]

guys

I'm not scum.

I Don't think Anon is either

SPyreX why is Anon scum?

Vote Count 4 - 10: Lynch

curiouskarmadog - 3 - Budja, Kmd4390, Anon
Anon -

6

- SpyreX, Jack, Papa Zito, Starbuck, Iecerint, SocioPath
Iecerint - 2 - curiouskarmadog, xvart
Cobalt - 2 - farside22, J-Scope

Not Voting (4): MehPlusRawr, Cyberbob, Cobalt, ooba

With 17 players alive it'll take 9 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

Deadline will be Wednesday May 10th at 8:26 Eastern Time.

[curiouskarmadog]

how is it scumhunting if you don't htink it's scummy/

I am not sure how to say it anymore. I thought the action strange...I asked a question (to scum hunt), depending on the answer, the action will either be explained...or it will become scummy. Scum hunting 101 here guys...

also you didnt answer my other question.

if you yourself are a vig, why did you refer to other "vigs"? You think we might have more than 2 here?

[Jack]

oh look Anon stretched to find a reason to vote me without trying to look like he is saving self ...lame (not the act of saving self, but the bullshit reason you are doing it).

Yeah, that case was fake.

[curiouskarmadog]

Even if Im wrong, which I sincerely doubt, I DEFINITELY have SCUMhunted more than you in the last two pages. See below, kind sir.

first of all, you have done jack shit the past two pages in finding scum if you are voting me..

second, dont try to bully me around...I will ask whatever "time wasting" questions I want...I think it is important.

lastly, I ask you what you have done this game to scum hunt, and you only mention the last 2 pages out of 50?....

now, what have you done to scum hunt in this game?

[curiouskarmadog]

excuse me..60 pages.

[Iecerint]

V/LA this weekend. I'm visiting family. I'll try to get a post or so in.

[xvart]

To clarify .. I targeted someone last night and got the result .. "Someone watched PlayerX" .. Could be another watcher also (maybe of the race of men?) but think FFFF's power transferring is more likely ..

How does someone watching someone mean it is more likely that FFFF's role got transferred?

Lurker wagons (Anon, Cobalt) < Scummy player wagons (CKD)

Says the lurker...

HEY my super secret scum tell worked didn't it.

Your super secret scum tell on FFFF? We don't know yet.

SPS definitely got enough votes, but I wonder if his destruction was blocked somehow.

Destruction is resolved after the lynch.

Starbuck

(no feelings either way)
Cobalt
Budja

CyberBob

+Iecrint

My changes added.

Elscouta: saying hi to your scumbuddy gives you just enough points for your slow and painful death. I dont see why would a townie joke with that considering the posterior mess it could create. But lets assume for a second you are just silly and thought it was cool enough to "claim" scum in your first post, just for the lulz. Lets assume you are a decent scumhunter and that you are not going to OMGUS people that are/were voting you for a VALID REASON....

Bzzt.

I was wrong.

I don't like Anon and Drippereth because they have been both attacking me and xvart, with very little reasoning.

So I'm scum because Elscouta linked to me?

xvart.

[Iecerint]

^ SX's secret scumtell was on SPS. Evidence suggests it was accurate.

SX said FFFF might flip town, but he wanted to lynch him, anyway, IIRC.

[Anon]

second, dont try to bully me around...I will ask whatever "time wasting" questions I want...I think it is important.

Ill bully you whatever bullying questions I want bullied in my bully. Why.is.this.important if you think Zito is town? And I want this questions answered nao.

now, what have you done to scum hunt in this game?

Go read my iso 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 11, 14, 17, 18, 22, 24 and 26 and you'll discover something interesting.

[Papa Zito]

Why would a 1-shot invalidate other vigs.

There are lots of poeple to shoot here so we need lots fo vigs to shoo them.

[Anon]

]So I'm scum because Elscouta linked to me?
xvart.

elscoutascum means you are scum. Simple as that. Not only for day 1 shenanigans, also you dissapearing in the climax of his lynch day 2 iirc.

you are also scum for lack of protowness and the general vibe of your posting. Your last post is an example of all your play so far. just isolate yourself. Massive Infomation Instead of Analysis.

[Papa Zito]

xvart?

xvart

xvart are you scum?

wow anon has a really good win/lss record

[Cyberbob]

guys

I'm not scum.

I Don't think Anon is either

That's quite a change of heart, what brought this on?

(I'm about 5 minutes from leaving to a movie so I will comment on other things later tonight, I just wanted to ask this quick question first)

[SpyreX]

If this was the Anon I'd seen all game I wouldn't be worried. This is the Anon I like.

AS IT SITS, I could maybe see giving another cycle to see what shakes out. Maybe. I admit my SECRET SCUMTELL TM with him isn't near as strong as the SPS one.

I'm not even sure if Xvart is scum but I want to lynch him.

Budja is still town although he should PLAY THE GAME A BIT MORE KTHX.

CKD's new fangled weird aggression isn't sitting well.

I -really- would like to see Cobalt push up daisies but I don't want to waste the lynch on that versus other more braver lynches with more division.

Soo... Ice?

[ooba]

Blitz reading through the game .. My vibes in a few minutes ..

[Starbuck]

Looking over the player list I feel pretty good about a lot of people. Except I notice starbuck now. Tons of posting day 1, active lurking since then.

Not so much active lurking, but just completely fucking lost with this game.



I seriously have no issue being lynched. I'm not a PR of any kind and just a VT. I have a staunch "I don't replace out policy", so my apologies for everything just being over my head right now.

4. Starbuck, hi. - scumlist and reasons for your vote in your following post, tia.

Because you asked....nah.

Starbuck is not the only scum in this group. Jack, Iec? Spy, Zito, Path how sure are you of Jack towniness. Also thoughts of Iec.

If you tell me why I'm scum (minus me not being around so much), I'll tell you why I think you are scum.

And if I'm scum, why isn't your vote on me?

[ooba]

ooba - Why did you vote J-Scope at the start of day 2?

FFFF soft claimed some sort of result on J-scope.

post 716 why did you say this to CKD?

Why not. Many a role interferes with investigations. The strategy of "Let's lynch the target and if town, person who claimed is obvscum and should be lynched" is stupid.

post 739 why did you chose to watch me and why did I die then?

It was toss up between you and Sens. I had a feeling scum might avoid sens because of the D1 controversy so went with you. You tell me why you died - its the same thing I've been asking you from that time

I had the same confusion when I got the result. I got my role clarified
b) I also cannot see group actions which do not involve a targeter doing something to the target

Ooba I thought you cannot watch group activities ? Is a scum kill a group activitiy?

I can watch group abilities where a targeter chooses the target.

I'm confused. Which is correct from above?

Both are correct. One is a double-negative of the other.

2 mafia groups / SK / Vig is my initial rumbling.

Or some elves might have the ability to kill themselves ..
Want to know how farside died yesterday ..

Destroy: FFFF

This is the second time you stated this. Is there a reason you have this thought that players self kill for a reason?

Yes. Because I watched you N1, nobody targeted you - yet you still died.

Why are you willing to revive J-scope after making this statment: paranoid?

It was a theory; I didn't know if it was true for certain. And I didn't want to destroy a possible power role without any discussion from his side.

Town Reads: PZ, xvart, CKD
Scum Reads: CB, Starbuck. Budja, farside to a lesser extent. Starbuck- looks like a player who's content with just surviving and moving from one BW to another.

Addn: xvart should read better

Vote: Starbuck

Good lynch

[Starbuck]

It probably doesn't mean much, but I plan to do a thorough re-read over this weekend.

[ooba]

The new posts of Starbuck do nothing to dispel my suspicions. Are ye trying to mimic xolelf's last post?

Also, I just re-read certain parts again. I will remove farside from my scumlist - pretty sure she's not scum unless my read is wrong. Call it a Secret Townell

[J-Scope]

Looking over the player list I feel pretty good about a lot of people. Except I notice starbuck now. Tons of posting day 1, active lurking since then.

Not so much active lurking, but just completely fucking lost with this game.



I seriously have no issue being lynched. I'm not a PR of any kind and just a VT. I have a staunch "I don't replace out policy", so my apologies for everything just being over my head right now.

Okay are you another mufasa alt or something b/c this is seriously fucking head wrecking.

Why would you go and claim VT for no reason like that? Jesus i want to smash my head into a brick wall but it probably won't do any good and may leave me playing like ffff which is something I'd like to avoid.

Your don't replace out policy is stupid. You decide to ACTIVELY HURT the faction your playing for (if your town and for some reason i think you are) instead of replacing out. That's far worse than requesting replacement when you can't keep on top of the game.

I kinda think Starbuck is town here for some reason. But idk why. I'd not be adverse to someone shooting her in the face if possible though.

[Starbuck]

J-Scope, the insults are unwarranted.

How did I actively hurt my faction?

[MehPlusRawr]

Claiming VT helps the mafia find PRs and kill them. Thus, it is anti-town.

*Insert a Captain Obvious picture here*

Day 4 makes no sense whatsoever.

[J-Scope]

J-Scope, the insults are unwarranted.

How did I actively hurt my faction?

wut the guy above me said. surely you know why VT claims are a bad idea for no reason???

i stand by your policy being stupid, if that insults you then I'm sorry, but well w/e really.

oh Anon's latest posts have looked quite good to me. He was inactive site wide I guess, but it's glad to see him providing content. I find myself agreeing with a fair bit of what he's saying. Hmm leaning not scum on him now actually.

Cobalt's still a good lynch.

[Kmd4390]

So when I talked about why Anon's scumbuddies didn't want him lynched, you answered as if I was talking to you, and gave a fence sitting opinion of him.

I was talking to SpyreX, Jack. lolirony

ANYWAY FINE

unvote: CKD

vote: Anon

This exchange

and this:

Dear town,

If Anon flips scum, Cyberbob is a buddy, Cobalt probably not.

Just FYI.


Love,

PZ

have me a little concerned about Zito's alignment. Only if Anon is actually scum though.

for the record,

that is not what I am doing

...if you town and really are trying to figure it out, we can discuss it (if it isnt obvious by) end game. I am never happy dying, if you check out my wiki, I care about my game wins and losses, I never just throw away games.

(Bolding mine) You should probably fill us in on what you ARE doing if you don't find rope around your neck to be comfortable.

i'm okay with an anon lynch. i think cobalt is a better lynch.

Vote Cobalt

Why Cobalt over Anon?

[SpyreX]

Ohh yea vig I could also get waaay behind a MPR vigging.