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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 9:24 am

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You're playing this game too, allegedly.
My lawyer told me not to comment on these false allegations.

So here are our claims, correct me if I'm wrong -
Me, Vi, and Sotty: VT
Amished: PGO
DDD: Cowardly Hider

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Pied Piper (WTF?)

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Last scum is a PR in my opinion. Now, I think town being 6 VTs and 3 power roles could work... and I also think town being 5 VTs and 4 power roles is a bit too unbalanced. Then again, we don't know what the hell a Pied Piper is, and neither DDD nor Amished's claims are incredibly powerful power roles. If I were to disbelieve one of the PR claims, I'd probably disbelieve DDD's, since I think it's very convenient that he happened to be the target on N2 and switched with Percy, as I see no reason why he would be the NK target. If I were to disbelieve one of the VT claims... god, I don't know, I could see me lynching Vi or Sotty.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 10:13 am

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I was listening carefully now. He called his screed "Electricity" and this is how it went:




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Vi ~ L-2 (Amished)

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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 11:41 am

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/headdesk.

Lynch Vi or xRx today, I really don't care which after the abomination that was 1125. You all figure it out.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 1:11 pm

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What was wrong with 1125?
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 1:19 pm

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Essentially that whole last paragraph.

You first state that you think either DDD or I are more likely scum (scum is a PR). You then state that too many power roles makes the town powerful (as if we are telling the truth), but the power roles aren't that powerful (so we could be town, nullifying your first position that a claimed PR is scum). You basically say that you could lynch anybody without giving a strong stance in any way, shape or form.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 1:23 pm

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No, I said out of you and DDD, I'd rather lynch DDD. Out of Vi and Sotty, I have no real preference: Vi has appeared more pro-town, but Vi is also a fantastic player and could likely pull the wool over our eyes quite easily.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 1:57 pm

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No, you said:

"Last scum is a PR in my opinion"

That is DDD or me, since everybody else claimed Vanilla. You also said:

"Now, I think town being 6 VTs and 3 power roles could work... and I also think town being 5 VTs and 4 power roles is a bit too unbalanced."

leading you farther down the road of one of the PR's is lying.

You then completely nullify ALL of that with your backtracking to "we {DDD and I} aren't that powerful" and that we could be telling the truth (which completely contradicts your first sentence) and therefore you're willing to lynch either of the Vanilla claims since "I could see me lynching Vi or Sotty. "

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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:04 pm

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Because I didn't realize most of these roles weren't "power roles" in a sense. PGO can be both good and bad for town, same with DDD's role.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:04 pm

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I'd rather lynch DDD over you, and Sotty over Vi. I think.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:12 pm

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Ok, so which of DDD or Sotty would you lynch first and why?
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:21 pm

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Ummmm. It's hard for me NOT to say DDD, because he's always a hard read for me and worries me more than Sotty, but the other part of me has been suspicious of Sotty for awhile now and IIRC a lot of dead players suspected Sotty.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 3:02 pm

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Amished 1131 wrote:No, you said:

"Last scum is a PR in my opinion"

That is DDD or me, since everybody else claimed Vanilla. You also said:
Nyao...
I agree that the last scum is a power role, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's one of the claimed ones.

Lemme try. Hay xRx--

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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 3:25 pm

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Vi wrote:
Amished 1122 wrote:I don't see how you could say that you thought DDD was scum after being on both scum day long-lynches (pretty sure) and neither of the town quicklynches. It just seems like a huge oversight when you've brought up your wagon analysis earlier this game so it is something that you look at. To ignore something like that... just outrageous in my eyes.
Huge oversights are the only kind I make. 8-)

The fact that DDD was on both scum lynches was acknowledged a while ago; it's a large point in his favor (albeit one he didn't bother to bring up).
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Vi wrote:I mean you're approaching RECK-levels of stance definition.
I am cut to the quick.

I tried to write a post in response that wasn't completely mocking but it wasn't happening. The mere implication that my course of action today would be beneficial for scum-me is downright laughable
and of course that even ignores my play of the first four days.
I also learned in a recent game that while being a braggart about my awesomeness at finding scum (or at least being on their lynches) is natural to me it tends to turn the rest of the town against me.

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xRECKONERx wrote:I'd probably disbelieve DDD's, since I think it's very convenient that he happened to be the target on N2 and switched with Percy, as I see no reason why he would be the NK target.
Yeah, it's not like I was in second position on a pair of scum lynches the first two days or something.

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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:03 pm

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Debonair Danny DiPietro 1137 wrote:
Vi wrote:
Amished 1122 wrote:I don't see how you could say that you thought DDD was scum after being on both scum day long-lynches (pretty sure) and neither of the town quicklynches. It just seems like a huge oversight when you've brought up your wagon analysis earlier this game so it is something that you look at. To ignore something like that... just outrageous in my eyes.
Huge oversights are the only kind I make. 8-)

The fact that DDD was on both scum lynches was acknowledged a while ago; it's a large point in his favor (albeit one he didn't bother to bring up).
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Vi wrote:I mean you're approaching RECK-levels of stance definition.
I am cut to the quick.

I tried to write a post in response that wasn't completely mocking but it wasn't happening. The mere implication that my course of action today would be beneficial for scum-me is downright laughable
and of course that even ignores my play of the first four days.
... v.v
I'm done joining games for a while. I can't watch myself play like this.
DDD 1137 wrote:I also learned in a recent game that while being a braggart about my awesomeness at finding scum (or at least being on their lynches) is natural to me it tends to turn the rest of the town against me.
This is true. You have to phrase it in such a way that people know exactly why you're making your Townclaims.
Bad: "Um yeah I was on both scum lynches. Argue against that."
Good: "Neither of those scum lynches would have succeeded without me. Really."

The reason I asked xRx the questions earlier was because 1125 didn't actually
say
anything. But this reminds me of what happened to Jahudo.

I'm at a loss. I feel like if I get this wrong, I'm going to get quicklynched Tomorrow. I think Sotty remembers how I feel about getting lynched on the final Day.

Let's try again.
I'm actually very confident in Amished's claim.
If DDD is telling the truth about his claim (i.e. he's Town, as opposed to him deliberately making the Percy kill), the setup is almost certainly 9/3. If that's the case then all the bussing tells apply, and Sotty is most likely Town. This leaves xRx.
Otherwise obviously DDD is scum. Sotty is still Town because DDD is scum.
In terms of probability, DDD is more likely telling the truth about his claim.
Therefore xRx is the correct lynch Today.

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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:06 pm

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Meh. Whatever. I always kinda wanted to lynch xRx after that double-voter fiasco and here's hoping my little story was right.

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:08 pm

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I want to lynch DDD today. Hence my vote being on him. I would consider lynching Sotty. I will not lynch Amished.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:08 pm

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*sigh* You're all fucking retarded.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:28 pm

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Final Votecount Day 5
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xRECKONERx ~ LYNCH (Debonair Danny DiPietro, Vi, Amished)

Debonair Danny DiPietro ~ L-2 (xRECKONERx)

Not Voting: Sotty7



You arrive at the Gonzo Tower as they are loading the explosive into the base. 400 pounds of ball-busting terror. A one-way ticket to the Great Beyond that no one will ever forget.

It's hard to hide your giddy in spite of all the death that preceeded this moment. You're almost there now. Begin the countdown! Unfortunately, the giddy is a bit much for Debonair Danny DiPietro to control and he decides to make things a bit to "personal" with xRECKONERx. Personal like a lit roman candle shoved straight down your throat.


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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:06 pm

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The band has stopped. The party goers are weary and the dawn is beginning to break somewhere in the distance. This is it, the Great Comedown.

The colors are peeling back slowly and are being replaced by a used up shade of grey. All that's left after all this waiting and murder is to see the old man off. You look down at Vi's crumpled corpse. Her eyes open, mouth agape in vacant terror. She would have loved this damn thing.

There's no sense in being remorseful now. No. There will be plenty of time for
that
later. Now is the time to win. Now is the time to take on the Fear. Now is the time to kill.

To everything there is a season.


Night 5 has ended. Vi,
Whimpering Slave of the Fear (Vanilla Townie)
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It is now Day 6. Deadline is May 30 at roughly 8 p.m. (GMT-4)





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Not Voting: Debonair Danny DiPietro, Sotty7, Amished

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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:11 pm

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Well shit. Now what? If I pick wrong, I get a draw. If I pick right I get a win. I believe that's what you call a free roll.

You two: Why is the other scum?
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:13 pm

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EBWOP: No, I don't care why you feel you're town.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:19 pm

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Ugh, seriously. Eff you both. One of you is playing an excellent scum game, and both of you are doing things that I very much do as town. I hate this game, why did I decide to join?

Also, for your fun fact of the day: I have more posts than anybody else alive, and I skipped 20+ pages.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:25 pm

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TTYL, at this point, I have no freaking clue. I'll be back tomorrow, with a half-serious intention of voting with whoever votes first.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 5:10 pm

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Amished wrote:Well shit. Now what? If I pick wrong, I get a draw. If I pick right I get a win. I believe that's what you call a free roll.
This is wrong, because it would mean as long as I'm not lynched scum cannot win the game. Thus, scum must have a "Win when equal to 50% of the town" win con and not a "Win when the entire town is dead or nothing can prevent the same" win con.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Fri May 07, 2010 2:15 am

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Crap, I was hoping to be dead so I wouldn't have to be the one to make the choice. Gut still screams Amished but I do see the potential for Triple D to be a Serial Killer who did actually kill Percy. So yeah, back to square one and looking over everything again.

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