mini 943- Greek Mythology! (And the winner is... ?)

[Plum]

/prodded, sorry for lack of activity

I had a case on Joh yesterday; he got outclassed in scumminess by a few players but the iffiness still stands. I'm not too interested in lynching players who have innocent results on them today and I'm not especially interested in lynching the claimers today (I never had any bad vibes on LC but then never had like any vibes at all on him, and the others all look decent enough or are masons and practically confirmed so yeah).

Long story short, the only really appealing lynch I can see right now is on Joh.

Only checking certain scumteams

should

be indicated in some way, or made plausible &c. by the wording of the investigation power/result. In theory.

[Shadow Dancer]

Again: Mine is not. So sacred saga is a dead end. DN only used some pictures based on sacred saga.

[Iecerint]

Ya. Just sayin.

[DeathNote]

CryMeARiver replaces AlmasterGM. Thanks CryMeARiver!

[Johoohno]

@ CryMeARiver:

Welcome. Please be quick with your read-up and your opinions, we're not having more than five days until deadline.

@ Ooba:

What’s the reason for this extremely careful phrasing in post 713: "- From my PoV, I am town " afraid of being caught lying? You also seem to become a bit restless and want me to claim ahead of schedule in post 715.

@ Shadow Dancer:

I do seem to appear scummy in almost all my games (I can only think of one where I wasn’t accused of being scum), no matter what my alignment is – check my wiki, all my games are there. It seems to be related to my play style, asking questions the way I do D1 isn’t considered townie for some reason.

Also, anyone interested in actually presenting a case on me to give me something to defend against? Just voting someone a bit haphazardly like drones won’t help town very much.

[Iecerint]

Eliminating "cleared" players yields this list:

Jack
Johoohno
LordChronos Bio Hazard
Plum

Removing LC, too, for helping explain the small number of kills N1 given Almatown yields:

Jack, JHH, Plum.

People have a town read on Plum for some reason I can't fathom; you'll have to ask them about that. I'm not sure about Jack, but he does appear to have put in an honest effort. That leaves you. Pushing this weird case on ooba isn't helping.

So, yeah, it's mostly PoE.

[CryMeARiver]

Ok, though I have started a reread, hardly gotten though anything, I'd like to know if there is any reason for me to claim at this point. I have found that claiming in a game that you replaced in with a lot of pages before a reread is often helpful in clearing me.

[Jack]

Almaster claimed roleblocker already CMAR.

[CryMeARiver]

Almaster claimed roleblocker already CMAR.

I'm not a roleblocker

[CryMeARiver]

Almaster claimed roleblocker already CMAR.

I'm not a roleblocker

I have no idea why he'd lie since I'm town aligned :p
Should I claim?

[Jack]

He must have lied about the roleblocker bit...we figured out that Ares was a serial killer and did a name claim to try and track him down. I suspect him to be Ares personally.

[CryMeARiver]

He must have lied about the roleblocker bit...we figured out that Ares was a serial killer and did a name claim to try and track him down. I suspect him to be Ares personally.

Seriously?!?!?! I am Ares (though spelled wrong in Role PM "Aries") and I'm not a serial killer :p
Ares makes no sense to be serial killer based on flavor. He was the God of War and, though cowardly, was not a traitor. Why do you think Ares is a serial killer?

[Jack]

In what games have you found that claiming before reading a game with a lot of pages is helpful?

[Johoohno]

quick post before sleep.

People have a town read on Plum for some reason I can't fathom; you'll have to ask them about that.

And this explains your vote on me instead of Plum in what way? You are aware that you were the one starting the train on me today?

[CryMeARiver]

In what games have you found that claiming before reading a game with a lot of pages is helpful?

A game I just replaced into (Seemingly Normal Mafia) because I am virtually clear (I think...) in 3 way lylo
Kingdom Hearts Mafia where I was asked to claim right when I replaced in (there were 169 pages at this point I think) and I questioned it, but claimed a few hours later. If I had claimed right away, it would have cleared me. They told me that neither of my 2 replacees had claimed and I needed to, but apparently they had claimed and our claims matched up.

[Iecerint]

In a vacuum, I'd be just as happy lynching Plum as you. Hearing the opinions of players I believe to be town, I'm coming down on the side of wanting to lynch you.

[CryMeARiver]

Are you guys just ignoring the fact that I just unclaimed roleblocker and claimed who you think is SK (Ares)?

[Iecerint]

I can confirm that we did that to him in KH mafia. His predecessors had claimed "minor character VT," so we tried to catch him claiming something outlandish. Slot was town.

[Jack]

Are you guys just ignoring the fact that I just unclaimed roleblocker and claimed who you think is SK (Ares)?

Nice...I like it.

Vote:Flava Flave

I have no enthusiasm for paint by numbers, confirmed townie list style mafia hunting. Even if I'm not the target (today), and especially not since the confirmed townie list is not at all confirmed. I've had two scum claim an investigative ability early on in recent games. I'd put it as either flava = GF or LC lied.

[CryMeARiver]

Are you guys just ignoring the fact that I just unclaimed roleblocker and claimed who you think is SK (Ares)?

Nice...I like it.

Vote:Flava Flave

I have no enthusiasm for paint by numbers, confirmed townie list style mafia hunting. Even if I'm not the target (today), and especially not since the confirmed townie list is not at all confirmed. I've had two scum claim an investigative ability early on in recent games. I'd put it as either flava = GF or LC lied.

Wait, what?

[Iecerint]

^ That means he likes you.

[Shadow Dancer]

@CryMeARiver: Welcome. Bad news: Your two predecessors partially played horribly. Good news: Nevertheless you are far off my suspect list right now (reasons found via reread ). I doubt you managed to do enough of a reread to fak claim Ares in the short time between your posts (though it is of course not impossible). Still another indication towards your innocence.

Nice play by Jack, gives you a fat plus on my townie scale

The longer I think about it the more I mistrust LCs claim. I do not like the timing of it and it is just way to easy to fake. If it was really townie defending (alleged) townie, why didn't he wait for Flava's claim?

On the other hand I asked him to provide information, maybe he just felt squeezed *feeling guilty ;..(*

Still... I do not like my two scum among JackJohPlum-theory any more.

FoS LC

My proposition: After already claiming two strong powers you should do a flavour claim, i.e. claiming your role and why you posses those two powers.

Right now if Joh waggon fails, I am willing to lynch LC, even if it is only to validate his claims.

@Joh: "I seem always scummy" is a really bad defense. You already adressed my main argument vs. you, your questioning habbits. Maybe you could elaborate on that a bit more and explain your overall game strategy.
I also think you had a suspicion against Plum somewhere in this game. Can you present a solid case against her?

[Iecerint]

^ It'd just take Ctrl+F "Ares" via self-iso. Jack'd already given him the name. But I agree that CMAR looks good in the interaction.

[Shadow Dancer]

That's what I was refering to when I said that it is not impossible

[CryMeARiver]

So should I full claim or no?