FakeGod wrote:so I asked my 8 ball whether Parama is maf.
It said yes 5 times in a row, forcing me to re-RVS.
Unvote: Broom
Vote: Parama
In context, this was actually the 5th vote on Parama. He switched his RVS and, if you believe him, specifically asked his 8-ball about Parama. Then, claimed it was just an RVS vote to hide the bandwagoning. This was the post that first made me vote for him.
FakeGod wrote:Wow! This is fast-paced!!!
@Espeonage: I like your style. Concise and decisive.
@Antiximo: yeeeah I thought I saw you there...
@InPie: I never stop random voting. Never ever.
This is the next post that caught my attention. I can't say decisively that he's buddying, but it's clearly complimenting other players for no real apparent or strategic reason other than to get on their good side. Notice he does talk to Pie, my suspect for his buddy.
FakeGod wrote:Hey I just realized that FoS works in weird ways.
For example, if I
FoS
ed everyone except Fugitive, who did I really FoSed?
Fugitive obviously. Strange, eh?
@InPie: I <3 Pikachu!
@Brandi: I like your style. Sophisticated and well-reasoned.
@Parama: It's cool.
Unvote
and now your reaction is......?
Alright, I think I have a rough sketch of people I'll be playing with. It's an honor to be playing with you folks
*takes a bow*
but I don't think I'll be posting until more people (like that broom guy I rved) shows up.
This is his very next post. After I'm the first to vote for him and bring up any case at all, he immediately claims that he's already FoS'd me and no one else. He's still talking nonsensically to other players, and even unvotes Parama when called on the massive bandwagon trying to shove it off as a reaction test. This post solidified my vote.
FakeGod wrote:@Esp: Understood. I'll immediately stop trying to buddy with every single person in the game. Not that I think I'm buddying. If you haven't noticed, all my posts so far only created enemies not buddies, wouldn't you agree?
Caving to other players request, then denial that you were doing, in the first place, what you were requested to stop doing. You were buddying too, as I've proven in 2 of these quotes, so your denial shows me that you know you were doing something wrong, acknowledgment that you knew it was wrong, AND then lying about doing it.
***FG doesn't post for a few pages here***
These next series of quotes are solely defenses to people's cases. Post 137, I find an adequate defense of Parama's case against him.
FakeGod wrote:You know, Brandi, I can't believe you actually bought what Parama said.
For a player who talked about a lot about buddying, you buddy up pretty fast.
I tried buddying with Esp? By how, complimenting "I like your style"?
Unless Paramas acting really stupid/gullible, there's no way Parama or anyone would actually believe that I'm trying to buddy up. The fact that I wasn't serious was even more visible by my post afterwards in response to you, when I said exact opposite of what I said just a moment ago. (Concise vs. sophisticated, decisive vs. well-supported)
This is post 140. This is where we breach the point of over defensiveness. It's one thing to defend yourself, like he did in 137, it's another to almost freak out and "I can't believe you..." or deflect his own actions "you buddy up pretty fast."
FakeGod wrote:@Navy:Please tell me how serious I was when I posted what you read. And when you start to accuse of "wasting space" or "creating distraction", I'll remind you that we've started what, a day ago? Sure, I'll admit that I love making conversation in the game of mafia. It's a social game. And before you accuse me of not helping town by these empty posts, convince me how you helped the town during time the period when I was posting those posts.
I HATE this response. When people are called out on not actually helping the town, 90% of the time they turn around on who said that to them and throw the same question in their face. It's a total deflection of responsibility and avoidance of the question.
Post 146. Another great example of over-defensiveness. Though he responded to Parama fine the first time, people should know Parama never gives up. When Parama kept pushing FG lost it. This is as big a scum tell as anything he's done. "Unvoting Random Vote without a reason is illegal now?" is my favorite line of the post. Oh, legality.
His next few posts are almost useless to take apart and analyze. Post 151, 154, 172, 179 are all over defensive and just responses, usually to Parama, that justify why FG should be town and nothing more.
--- I'd like to stop here and point out something FG does that bothers me a lot. He often stops in the middle of his defenses and asks "So restate your case or explain why I'm scum." At first, it seems okay, but if you look deeper into the question it gets rather annoying. It's as if he's not paying attention, as if he had just proved to everyone in his defenses that all points against him made him an inadequate scum target and now people need new reasons to find him scummy. ---
Note: He just did that to me, which is why I'm making this PBPA.
FakeGod wrote:NavyCherub wrote:Espeonage wrote:RVS was over somewhere between post 29 and 33.
^^^ this guy is a smart guy, he knows how to play mafia.
So.....I take it that you don't like RVS very much?
@Esp: You recently unvoted me and said I was VI (which I'm guessing stands for Village Idiot). How does this fit in with your previous case of me and Brandi being scumbuddies, and where does this put Brandi in your eyes? and may I ask why you changed your views on me? I've been rereading what I said between the time of your vote and unvote, but I'm not sure what caused you to change your mind so suddenly, especially since you have stayed fairly consistent entire game (with the me + Brandi theory) until that point.
Vote: Espeonage
but this is an unfair vote because for some people I couldn't even get a good read due to their lack of posts
Here is the jump onto the other wagon and acknowledgment that it's a poor vote. Lol'd.
FakeGod wrote:My reasoning behind my vote:
I had town vibes from Esp until his unvote and sudden shift in view, where he used to be very consistent throughout the entire game, and not anymore.
Being inconsistent isn't necessarily bad, but for a player who's been very consistent to suddenly change his views without giving much reasons, I'd say something's up.
Now he realizes he voted without giving reasons... oops. Also, inconsistency =/= scum-tell. Just sayin'.
Post 238 is where the Pie buddying starts. This is different from the other, previous buddying. He's not going off-topic and complimenting Pie, and such, he's adopting Pie's viewpoints as his own. It also seems as if he's trying to establish himself on the front of the Esp lynch, and draw attention away from his suspicions.
FakeGod wrote:Um guys, I'm town. Please don't lynch me.
Oh, okay. I'll just throw out all my suspicions based on this rock-solid, well established defense.
Which brings us to where he asked me to do this. I agreed. And now I'm about to hit the submit button.
tone than OH NO I'M GONNA DIE tone, but I guess I came off as more extreme tone to you.