Pick Your Power III: A Brave New World

[DrippingGoofball]

1.) Did you like the game?

I feel sorry for the scum, but Elli needs to be thanked for giving the town a game!

2.) Did you let the setup?

Vanilla, AGAIN!!!

3.) What would you keep?

No pre-game, not that I was aware it was happening.

4.) What would you change?

More evil roles for scum to grab

[PranaDevil]

Fate you git , I knew you were lying about something... lol

QT for me and Zo (showing me desperately trying to drag him into the game at the end no less, lol) - http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/XkqeC5QdW8Mbs

And Elli nicking the Neighborizor stuffed my early game plan. Though after my partner's disappearing act it would have all be for nothing anyway.

Rather a shame that Zo disappeared really, as I think we could have done so much better with the mason roles had Zo not disappeared (and left me to make sure no bugger lynched him, and I didn't want it to get to something like L-1 or L-2 to prevent his lynch, and had Parama not gone "I've worked out what the role related info is" I think it would have snuck by ).

As for the mod questions:

1.) Did you like the game?
It was fun, and different to other games I've played (alright, not too many at this point, but even so...)

2.) Did you let the setup?
Very much so, in fact you mind if I nick the basics for it to run some games in a smaller forum? ^_^

3.) What would you keep?
I like the number picking at the start, and picking your roles that way. The roles worked well too, though I'm not entirely sure I get the point of Fruit Vendor, outside of "Yeah, I have fruit vendor".

4.) What would you change?
The sign up thread having so much activity meant the game was being played before the game even began, which might be worth looking at, the only people who should be discussing game outside of the game thread should be scum and masons, the rest of the town should (in theory) be waiting until the thread arrives.

One other thing... someone said that they had a way the fruit vendor could be a good role, mind telling me how? Unless you can give poisoned fruit of course .

[Zang]

1.) Did you like the game?
2.) Did you let the setup?
3.) What would you keep?
4.) What would you change?

1.Loved the game, (despite my lack of activity)
2.The setup was good
3.Keep the fruit vendor
4.Maybe more roles and three masons next time

I loved being the fruit vendor, it's definitaly the best role In the game.
I'm surprised you thought I was town, and I really didn't understand it but I'm glad you did.
This is my first time I've won as town and the second time I survived.
I had fun playing with all of you. Spyrex was a great mod.

And the point of the fruit vendor is to mess up tracker, redirector, etc. and it can be confirmed that you are the fruit vendor because somebody else says the recieved a fruit.

[Zang]

And I don't like that 12keyblade was lynched, tommorow I was going to give him 12 coconuts.

[DrippingGoofball]

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/2LKLwVV9ZfbUa

[Pomegranate]

Pom was all over it.

I felt that I was useful in a PYP game for once! I knew joining this one would be good. Third time's the charm.

1.) Did you like the game?

Definitely.

2.) Did you let the setup?

Yes. But to me most of the added roles don't change very much in the game (as opposed to PYP 1 and 2). I do like the idea of odd and even night vigs- it doesn't tip the game very much in one direction as the a regular vig might (i.e., in PYP 2). Also, I like the Fruit Vendor, purely because it's useless- receiving a pomegranate N1 made me smile, though I knew it didn't effect the game.

3.) What would you keep?

I dunno, I like the medley of roles, and I'd keep the Fruit Vendor just for laughs and giggles.

4.) What would you change?

Maybe having a weak doc and a cop is too much town power in that area, but I'm not sure, as there are a lot of good scum PRs too.

[Parama]

1.) Did you like the game?
2.) Did you let the setup?
3.) What would you keep?
4.) What would you change?

1. Yep even though I was vanilla.
2. Assuming you meant "like", yeah it was pretty cool though the scum managed to get 3 vigs <.<
3. Most everything
4. I still don't see the point of Fruit Vendor other than the fact that it allows you to confirm your role. Though it's a funny role I guess

[Zang]

The fruit vendor messes up the tracker, watcher, redirector, etc.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

The series of scum-vig lynches started with Soras. Soras's reaction to my pressure was the catalyst for the wagon on him. Therefore, I give myself 100% of the credit for town's victory.

I like the PYP setup and would play it again, I don't really care what changes.

[PranaDevil]

In all honesty as well... I spent the first chunk of the game more blindly following along, the only stuff I'll say I had a hand in was passing the weak doc results on. Everything else I just followed along with XD.

[CryMeARiver]

The series of scum-vig lynches started with Soras. Soras's reaction to my pressure was the catalyst for the wagon on him. Therefore, I give myself 100% of the credit for town's victory.

I like the PYP setup and would play it again, I don't really care what changes.

PSSHHHHHHHH

Doubtful, I suspected and pushed soras from the beginning

[Pomegranate]

The fruit vendor messes up the tracker, watcher, redirector, etc.

Huh?

How?

[Pomegranate]

Oh, that the tracker might track it.

I guess, but I wouldn't call it "messing up".

[CryMeARiver]

The fruit vendor messes up the tracker, watcher, redirector, etc.

Huh?

How?

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[Sando]

1.) Did you like the game?
2.) Did you let the setup?
3.) What would you keep?
4.) What would you change?

1) First few days were confusing and somewhat frustrating, and roles were lucky/way too powerful. It turned into a really interesting game though, and if I hadn't gotten Elli it would have been fun to watch.

2) I think there's a lot of potential for town to break it. We should have mass-claimed on D1 in hindsight considering the scum-powers. Masons have the potential to be very very powerful. Unfortunately given lack of action from a mason, this wasn't tested.

3) All of it really, I think the roles are generally good, but should perhaps be watered down somewhat.

4) The draft will get broken next time, it's pretty easy to do, and ruins the fun I think, something should be done. Since scum and masons are presumably assigned randomly, simply 1 person posting a draft list that forces people to be in the same order as the sign-on, or some similarly arbitrary listing, will break things. Draft also needs to be better explained I feel.

Good game town, Fate controlled things well, but got well and truly over-confident. Pom was pretty much psychic as well, picking both vigs on their kill night. Also lucky that she didn't target me onto Manho when he died

I feel slightly better about my cop read on Elli considering there was no cop. I felt dick doing what I did, but Fate forced my hand by refusing to let me hammer, for absolutely no reason it turns out ><

The scum-play was incredibly ballsy, I loved it actually, but I think probably a mistake with so many town-investigative roles, even without the cop! Role-cop + neighbouriser so you can group the investigative roles with yourself and hopefully influence them away from yourself could be really cool. Not sure how it was going to play in the end-game though.

[Faraday]

1) yeah
2) idk offhand. give me time to think.
3) even/odd vigs were interesting, definitely keep them. prob masons too.
4) even tho the draft and stuff before was a good idea it really killed my interest in the game. i don't think the scum played very well, really, but that didn't help them.

3/3 in PYP. aha.

[Parama]

I want to apologize to manho and Faraday for tunneling them

[Faraday]

why? i think i deserved it lol.

spotting most of the town here was pretty easy though. i'd forgot about the MASONS for a while hence the 'i'm an idiot' part.

will look forward to playing with you again, i kinda got in a mafia funk for like 2/3 weeks during this game and my play was pretty horrible.

[Ellibereth]

1.) Did you like the game?
2.) Did you let the setup?
3.) What would you keep?
4.) What would you change?

1. Yes. Except for the blocking Hoopla > Sando ...
2. Neighborizer = best role ever.
3. Neighborizer. And Yeah, pre-game stuff should be chopped.
4. Less investigative roles for town.

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/b6gY4QJpYnv
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/2LKLwVV9ZfbUa
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/MvQuAzSsTwgRP
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/8GJ4MrtnsQm4R
http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/iHqNDD68ETB6

[Fate]

Oh hey its over. Reading those QTs for many lulz.

[Fate]

You jailed me?

Lulz have been had.

More to come.

Thoughts for Spyrex to come soon, (though he ignored me in his game overview and praised the mason-tracker ;P)

[Fate]

HEY PARAMA, HOW WAS THAT 12KB READ?

1.) Did you like the game? I had less fun than the last one, where I lost, actually. I also wish I would've picked Bomb again, or at least Cop. It was fun to be right though, of course. And Elli's play was epic.

2.) Did you let the setup? I couldn't stop it, so of course I let it.

3.) What would you keep? Bomb! Gunsmith. Tracker, Watcher, Fruit Vendor, Redirector, Jailkeeper, etc.

4.) What would you change? Signup thread chat. Like Porkens said, I really thought it was against the spirit of the game and defeated some of the purpose of the masons. I'd take off the Cop role also, which (even though not present) really tipped the balance. Notice how much of scumplay this game was bent on finding the cop anyway... I think I would go back to a "Vig" role. AS long as the empowerer isn't in play, and we get Weak Doc+Jailkeeper, I think it would be balanced. I especially loved the urgency element of last game trying to find the vig and scum's play based around hiding it.

In closing: I think you and Hoopla went the opposite direction of last game a little too much, and it ended up heavily in town's favor. Maybe Jailkeeper could be replaced with Roleblocker for scum and Bodyguard for town. Or maybe scum was just really unlucky this game, and only a few tweaks are needed to make it fair again.

GG.

[Fate]

Sando 45
05-02-2010 09:14 PM ET (US)

Elli you can't send in actions for your buddy now that you're dead can you?

Fate looks like last scum now. Set up keyblade with a no-kill, set up a rival lynch and ensure that keyblade goes tomorrow. The amount of WIFOM spewing out his mouth is incredible.

Fate the last scum?

Elli and DGB last two scum? Lynch Fate in between them because he's been begging for it all game?

lol
Fate is going to find this hilarious.

FINAL LULZ HAD! AHAHAHAHA. I'm glad people think I'm a scum mastermind though.

See you guys next PYP

[PranaDevil]

Also... thus far I've not been scum in a game yet, however I always come off the scummiest.

At this rate I'll be thought as scum in games I'm not even playing in XD.

It's not feigned. Had I been a town-vig I'd have shot Prana 3 times already. He plays like crap.

Love you too Dram .

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Oh cool, I got NKed because the scum thought I said soras wasn't mason because I was mason. In truth, I knew he wasn't mason because I saw Prana's hint.