Riddle Me This! NY111 - mafia dead - Town wins!

[The Fonz]

Well, the constant ongoing game references are really annoying.

And I wouldn't call using SMM as meta evidence good, unless it was an inspired piece of situational mafia.

[The Fonz]

*situational mafia COMEDY.

[The Fonz]

Wtf? I check in nearly a full 24hr later and mine is STILL the last post!

[Yosarian2]

Yeah, this game is stalling.

My suspects haven't changed; I'm still willing to lynch PaltryExcuse, Richard, or Anon. Anon slightly less then the other two, but he'll do in a pinch.

I think I'll move my vote over to Richard at the moment, mostly in the hopes of getting something in this game to move. Expect me to move my vote back if we can ever get support going for the Paltry wagon, though.

Unvote

Vote:Richard

[scotmany12]

Finals week coming up. Swamped with work. Don't expect a lot from me until semester is over. Still want Richard to explain his vote on Furcolow.

[VasudeVa]

How could anyone do anything with the minimal interactions there are in this game? I know I'm not the most active player on the roster but this is just terrible. >.>

[Furcolow]

I'm just posting to say that I'm still watching this thread

Any questions about my roleclaim or anything in general about any game i've played or my opinion on anything feel free

[RichardGHP]

Long post incoming

Unvote

Can you refrain from referencing an ongoing game?
Especially one we're both alive in. I think that's against the rules...

Again, I wasn't referencing an ongoing game.

Vote: RichardGHP

Reasons:

1)He is letting meta ruin his opinion of me in his reference of another game we're in together.

Nuh uh.

2)dahill1- Thestatusquo (L-10)
mipe - PaltryExcuse, ksun482, sorasagoof, FeFiFoFum (L-7)
RichardGHP- scotmany12, Mipe, Yosarian2, Quagmire, korts, Shanba (L-5)
ksun482- dahill1, The Fonz, inHimshallibe, iamausername, Anon, RichardGHP, DizzyIzzyB13, VasudeVad, Zoraster (L-2)

Wouldn't it have been logical for ksun482 to be voting for Richard at the end? I know that it wouldn't change much, in that it would only put it at 7 in relation to 9, but 7 is a lot better than 4. I feel like ksun482 would have voted for Richard if Richard wasn't his mafia buddy.

I can not be held responsible for the voting trends other people created.

3) I don't really like him
4) I feel like he is a relatively weak player

Nobody likes everyone. If you don't like someone, you don't lynch them, you just try and stay civil and treat them the same as you would any other player. If they have been genuinely scum-like, fine, but otherwise this is pretty fail logic. Also, the hint of policy at the end feels forced and unenthusiastic.

Also, according to the vote counts, you are 100% scum in my eyes.

I don't understand how you can be 100% sure someone is scum based on a trivial matter such as votecounts. I'm not responsible for others' votes.

i'm furthering the scum cause by showing the mod something which helps town...

you make no sense

Not exactly sure how that helps town.

[...]I am apt to believe that Richard, inhimshallibe and shanba are mafia.

He mentions that I am mafia in his eyes, nothing new here, but this time he declares shanba as scum after only a couple of sentences analysing ONE post. Calls inHim scum out of the blue, doesn't mention him again until two posts later, the next day.

It's also interesting to note that Anon is in Richard's "people I think are town" in his Iso'd post 31.

We really need to get people who were on the Mipe-wagon. That wagon was the scummiest I've seen in awhile.

You ask, how was ksun lynched then? Simple. Mafia gave up on him.

I'll show you.

RichardGHP wrote:

Mod: Please prod or replace the following players:

ksun482 .

mipe needs to die ASAP.

Anon wrote:

Request ksun to be force replaced.

OH LOOK ANOTHER TIE BETWEEN ANON AND RICHARD WHAT EVER SHALL WE DO

If you'll notice, I said prod OR replace the following players. Blatant misrep here, at the very least on me. Isolating ksun's name from the list is nothing short of word twisting. Not like I new ksun was scum. If I knew ksun was scum, I wouldn't have bothered listing him and voted for him earlier.

FOS: inHimShallibe, Anon

MAJOR FOS: RichardGHP

Cites me as his major FoS, nothing new, but inHim is a mere FoS. Wait, what? Wasn't it you, my dear Furcolow, who stated inHim was mafia only 3 posts ago? The change from "..., inHim and ... are scum" to "FOS: inHimShallibe" is interesting. Anon is now receiving more attention.

Richard is behaving differently than he has in the games I have him labeled as town.

Inane fluff. Until you have played with me and I have flipped before, you aren't in any position to make competent assessments about how I play what alignment.

If Richard/inHimshallibe both flip town i offer myself up to be lynched

Now inHim has been bumped up the scale again, this time to the point where Furc would bet his game life that him and I are scum.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM
LYNCH A TOWNIE
SCUM SCUM
DEFENDS RICHARDGHP
SCUM SCUM

Townies push cases on townies
Townies push cases on scum
Scum push cases on town
Scum push cases on scum

Townies defend townies
Townies defend scum
Scum defend townies
Scum defend scum.

HEY LOOK.

This guy seems the most active of the scummers
Lets get him out of the way, so they'll just give up on the thread.
Get this game over with, we got this in the bag, baby.

unvote
vote: shanba

At this point Furcolow believes to have nailed 3 - 5 scum. I don't see the point in changing between your scumreads if you truly believe they are al scum anyway; activity doesn't have much to do with it.

Sounds like the squirms of a man whose whole team is about to die

People once thought the Earth was flat.

unvote
vote: richardghp

After voting Shanba only two posts ago, being so sure of himself, he decides to change his vote - AGAIN. He seems to think throwing his vote around like that is an acceptable tactic.

disagree with mipe wagon.

Obviously; you didn't start it.

there is no gray area in this, richard.

Coldly avoids a fairly simple task assigned to him, almost as if he doesn't want to admit that I'm that scum-like. On the other hand, he could mean that I'm off-the-charts, I really wouldn't know. Nonetheless, he avoided the question, the answer to which is/was important to the game's course.

yosarian2 is right about me being town,
I feel we should conduct a beneficial mass-roleclaim. It will help the town, and it would be cool. Sure, we might lose a lot of power roles in one night, but it would be fun to put up a fight. If we had multiple claims of certain roles we can limit it down to who scum are, too. If everyone is claiming VT, we can investigate or lynch them

Massclaiming on Day 2 is not only fail but hilarious. I think we should rename Furcolow "Village Clown" instead of "Village Idiot".

Well, I've played with Richard before, and he feels scummy for me in relation to his town play.

In an ongoing game you don't know my alignment in.

unvote; vote inhimshallibe


well, if you all can guess my role i'll tell you

Another switch to a scumread, the first time inHim has been negatively depicted in a while by Furcolow.

wow blatant omgus tbh. i accuse you now this? you deserve to be lynched.

OMGUS =/= scumtell
My vote =/= OMGUS
Deserving to be lynched = being mafia. Therefore, I do not deserve to be lynched.

he thinks im scummy because i made a case on him, it's as simple as him being a terrible player as mafia

Nope.

Any questions about my roleclaim or anything in general about any game i've played or my opinion on anything feel free

An outright claim would be good. You've already stated you aren't VT, so I see no reason not to.

Vote: Furcolow

[The Fonz]

How could anyone do anything with the minimal interactions there are in this game? I know I'm not the most active player on the roster but this is just terrible. >.>

There's 40 pages of interactions. We have a dead scum and multiple wagons to analyse. 'People are lurking, so i'll lurk' is a recipe for disaster. At the very least, if lurking is killing the town, you can pressure a lurker.

[DeathNote]

Vote Count

PaltryExcuse- Anon (L-8)
Furcolow- mipe, dizzyizzyB13, RichardGHP (L-6)
Yosarian2- Quagmire (L-8)
Quagmire- inHimshallibe (L-8)
Anon- iamausername, Shanba, VasudeVa, The Fonz (L-5)
inHimshallibe- dahill1, PaltryExcuse, Furcolow (L-6)
RichardGHP- scottmany12, zoraster, Yosarian2 (L-6)

Not Voting:

Mr. Chaos

With 17 alive, its 9 to lynch.

~500 begins it, 500 ends it, and 5 is left in-between. The first of all letters and the first of all numbers take up their places between. Bring them together and what have you go? The name of a famous King.~

[RichardGHP]

Well... uh... that was weird. Anyone else see this topic disappear of the face of the earth for a while there?

Anyways, I've heard this latest riddle too many times. I feel kind of guilty blurting out the answer right away so all I'll say is that this one especially requires outside-the-box-thinking.

MS is evidently down due to mod double posting on an 11-minute interval. Let's see if this post has any trouble going through.

[mipe]

Hmm, sorry :/ I have been trying to post in the last few days but MS was always down when I tried to..

[Shanba]

Firstly, I think we need prods for lot of people that haven't posted recently. I haven't checked the list against game posts or whatever but I'd guess it's around half the players or so. That ought to get us a bit of forced activity at any rate.

Secondly, I think that people not voting for a wagon (mr chaos, inhim, quag, anon) ned to man up and take a stand. Maybe if activity improves we can afford to have people striking out on their own, but right now we need to muster everyone who is still active in a useful place or we'll never get anywhere.

I don't like the furcolow wagon. It seems to boil down to him playing badly and some votehopping (at least, that's the impression I get from Ricky.) Compared to Anon, who has multiple links to the confirmed dead scum, and I'm very unenthusiastic.

InHim is a better wagon, and I like the reasoning behind it, but I have a strong gut town read on him so I'm not too interested in pursuing that.

I could swap to RickyGHP over Anon, but I don't think it's smart to do so when I think Anon is scummier and the Anon wagon is larger. So I'm happy to stick right here. I know I've already asked this question, but why are the people who aren't on the Anon wagon not on it? Only furcolow gave an answer last time and it was a shitty one. I'm thinking particularly people like Yos, izzy - I know you think Ricky is scum, but you're not convinced by the case on Anon?

Let's get moving people.

[Furcolow]

the fact I have so many votes on me is testament to mafia having clouded your brains

[DizzyIzzyB13]

The fact you have so many votes on you is down to your scummy behaviour.

However...

unvote, vote Anon

Having been presented with examples of Furcolow as town, I'm willing to concede that he may well be cut from the same cloth as Richard at the moment. Anon is the strongest case otherwise and while I have bad vibes about an Anon wagon, I can't put my finger on why, so... there the vote goes.

[The Fonz]

I think what reservations I do have about the Anon wagon are based on the fact it was instigated by IAAUN, who is massively undercontributing and could be under the radar scum.

That said, looking at how the votes piled on after you, Izzy, I'd be amazed if none of RGHP, Vasude and Anon are bussing scum.

[Yosarian2]

I'm thinking particularly people like Yos, izzy - I know you think Ricky is scum, but you're not convinced by the case on Anon?

Eh. The logical case against him is pretty strong. My gut is...less certain. I also don't have a good history of being able to read Anon, which makes me hesitate a bit.

(shrug) All in all, I wouldn't mind seeing him lynched, and if we get close to deadline and it seems appropriate I might go over to that wagon. I'd rather lynch Richard or Paltry though.

[scotmany12]

Okay. So starting Tuesday I will have some free time as my next final isn't until Friday. Haven't read richard's case on furcolow yet but will get to it sometime soon.

[Furcolow]

noone else finds me calling mafia on my wagon and that unvote to be scummy? that's major fos on dizzyizzy in my book
ill be watching you if richard flips

[RichardGHP]

If I flip what?

[dahill1]

Sorry still APs week but I'll get a post in.

I'll have to examine the Anon case since it's looking like it might have some merit. Furcow and GHP are both stupid but Furcow is slightly more town

[dahill1]

Sorry still APs week but I'll get a post in.

I'll have to examine the Anon case since it's looking like it might have some merit. Furcow and GHP are both stupid but Furcow is slightly more town

[Mr. Chaos]

Ok, read up on Anon recently, found him pushing hard for ksun to get replaced as incredibly odd considering what role ksun flipped as.

Really, I am curious about him, so I don't think a bit more pressure would hurt too much.

Vote: Anon

[inHimshallibe]

We've had rain. Will post soon.

[DeathNote]

Sorry for the sudden absence. As some of you know, its finals week and MS has not been working so well for me. I will be sending out mass prods today and still searching for replacements as necessary.

Official Deadline will be set for May 10, right after Mothers day.