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[Antiximo]

RVS is Random.

Any conversation or quotes pulled out of RVS and used for scumhunting is reaching.

hard

Geting out of that so that everyone can have serious conversation is good for town.

[InflatablePie]

...I know.

Main Entry: 1det·ri·men·tal
Pronunciation: \ˌde-trə-ˈmen-təl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1590

: obviously harmful : damaging <the detrimental effects of pollution>


Saying "getting out of RVS so quickly is detrimental to the town" implies that getting out of RVS quickly is a very bad thing.

Unless you're just agreeing with me, in which case I read your post in a different tone so ignore this.

[Furry]

Vote Count

-later-

Now. —SC

VOTE COUNT

Brandi (2): broomhead, Zang
DocPotter (1): Antiximo
Espeonage (2): InflatablePie, DocPotter, FakeGod
FakeGod (5): Fugitive, Parama, NavyCherub, Brandi, Fate
Not voting (2): Espeonage

With

12

players alive, it takes

7

players to lynch.

[Antiximo]

ignoring the crap out of this

yep.

[Antiximo]

come on guys.. let's not go dropping the ball here.

and zang, you do notice that two people are hinting at you being the lynch of the day right..?

[Fate]

Zang is ALWAYS acceptable D1 lynch material. Doesn't make him any more likely scum though...

[Antiximo]

Fate, i don't understand what you mean by that, are you saying he plays like this consistently?

[Espeonage]

Ok a few points. I never said with certainty that Brandi and FG were scumbuddies. It was mild speculation with a bit of reasoning beside it.

Now to my comments on RVS. RVS is where non serious pressure starts to build up. Random wagons are among the best devices that can be used by town and we never got the chance to go through that phase. Brandi went a bit haywire on Parama and we were thrust out without having that slow pressure to get us going.

[Espeonage]

Zang is ALWAYS acceptable D1 lynch material. Doesn't make him any more likely scum though...

From my small experience with Zang. I agree.

[InflatablePie]

I never said with certainty that Brandi and FG were scumbuddies.

Fake god and Brandi are on the same scum team.

FakeGod took his teammate's place on the wagon when it was no longer benificial for them to have her on it. They are both acting scummy as well.

Ok yes Brandi is bad. FakeGod is officially worse. I am liking my scum buddies theory.

Suffice it to say that I really wish I had two votes so I could vote Brandi and FakeGod. I will stick with Brandi for now but if someone pushes towards the tipping point I wont hesitate to tip that balance.

Ok it was based around the timing of FakeGod's post. It came just after Brandi unvoted.
I'm not saying I'm right just that it makes alot of sense.
Add to that they were both acting scummy independantly as well and you have a bit of a fishy looking situation.

^Really, because you seem pretty sure in these posts...

Now to my comments on RVS. RVS is where non serious pressure starts to build up. Random wagons are among the best devices that can be used by town and we never got the chance to go through that phase. Brandi went a bit haywire on Parama and we were thrust out without having that slow pressure to get us going.

See, I thought that wagons that are fueled by logic and good reasoning would be better than a random wagon. I really don't get how staying in the RVS is any good. One good reason is because scum (and town alike, sometimes) can just dismiss a vote or something as "oh, this was RVS" or similar and try to get away with it. Scum can be more "free" in RVS because of this - the quicker we get out of RVS, the more discussion gets going and the more likely we are to find scum with bad/flimsy reasoning and lynch them.

Concerning Zang, I have not played with him in any past games, so I wouldn't know anything about how he plays.

[Espeonage]

They are putting ideas out there. It is stupid to assume that someone could be sure about that.

[Antiximo]

Yo fate, get your ass here and tell me why zang is usually a good lynch d1.

[Espeonage]

Because Zang is a very good scum.

[FakeGod]

I never said with certainty that Brandi and FG were scumbuddies.

Fake god and Brandi are on the same scum team.

FakeGod took his teammate's place on the wagon when it was no longer benificial for them to have her on it. They are both acting scummy as well.

Ok yes Brandi is bad. FakeGod is officially worse. I am liking my scum buddies theory.

Suffice it to say that I really wish I had two votes so I could vote Brandi and FakeGod. I will stick with Brandi for now but if someone pushes towards the tipping point I wont hesitate to tip that balance.

Ok it was based around the timing of FakeGod's post. It came just after Brandi unvoted.
I'm not saying I'm right just that it makes alot of sense.
Add to that they were both acting scummy independantly as well and you have a bit of a fishy looking situation.

^Really, because you seem pretty sure in these posts...

Agreed. You seemed

very

sure. I don't think you were "putting ideas out there". You were, in fact, very consistent in your views, until now when you suddenly backed away from them and disowned them as mere suggestions.

[Espeonage]

I didn't disown them as suggestions. I just think there is a less likely chance of them being true now.
That was where my suspicions were and now they aren't

[FakeGod]

Well when you posted them, you looked pretty sure about them.
Alright, so I understand that your views have changed. May I ask what caused you to change your views?

[InflatablePie]

That was where my suspicions were and now they aren't

...right after I start getting on your case about how you went about that and how scummy it made you look in my eyes.

k

And how serious are you about the "we should lynch Zang because he's a good scum" comment? Because if that's your only reasoning, that's just silly.

[Espeonage]

I never said I was advocating a Zang lynch. I was merely giving an explaination to Anti. That is Fate's ideal. Not mine.

[Antiximo]

No, I want Fate to answer.

Once again stating, please.

Don't.

Answer.

Other People's.

Questions.

[Antiximo]

No, I want Fate to answer.

Once again stating, please.

Don't.

Answer.

Other People's.

Questions.

[Fate]

Fate wrote:
Zang is ALWAYS acceptable D1 lynch material. Doesn't make him any more likely scum though...

From my small experience with Zang. I agree.

Bolding mine, this will come in handy soon.

Because Zang is a very good scum.

A lot of players are good at scum. Should we lynch them to?

I never said I was advocating a Zang lynch. I was merely giving an explaination to Anti. That is Fate's ideal. Not mine.

LOL

Unvote:

Vote: Espeon

@Anti: Your question is irrelevant at this point. But to your first one, yes, Zang always plays like this.

[Antiximo]

Espeon's about to get


TORE


UP

liar lookin scummy.

[Fugitive]

Oh hey, I can post again.

Just want to point out one quick thing. Look how quickly FakeGod jumped onto the case against Esp and sided with Pie. I know it seems a bit obvious, but he is new (right?), and new scum, from what I've seen, tend to do this. They take sides with their more experienced scum buddies and jump onto any little case presented against someone.

Quite frankly, the case against Esp that Pie just brought up was simply due to wording. Yes, Esp did downplay his aggression a bit, but people can change their minds. Now, I'm not by any means defending Esp, he's got a few bleeps on my scumdar, but what's being discussed right now is ridiculous.

I'm liking my Fake-Pie scum team more and more, if not only for Fake giving Pie away. If Fake flips scum Pie has some explaining to do.

Lastly thing: lol@lynching someone who could be good scum.

[Antiximo]

That's true. Good point out fugitive. However espeon's way of playing, and wishy-washy gamepaly is a bug

[Fugitive]

I agree completely, but I'd rather noose up FG because of a buddying suspect and stronger suspicion, on my part, of being scum. If he flips town then I'd like to look at Esp closer, if he flips scum then Pie. I feel we stand more to gain by his lynch.