Lay of Leithian Mafia: Game Over!

[SocioPath]

I've stated my reasons, and they are still valid.

I just ISOed you and all I can find is this exchange:

Shovel: Early-game bandwagonning is pro-town, certainly in big games.
Path: Calling your own actions pro-town is never pro-town.
Shovel: If you're playing in a way you would not describe as pro-town, you're doing something wrong.
Path: That is a bit of a false dilemma. Every action a person takes could be described as pro-town, if the end result is helping them catching scum. Vote: Shovel
Shovel: SocioPath, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Path: The Ends Justify The Means.

Then I seem to have forgotten about it, which is a shame, since it just boils down to a specious reading of one of my statements. You suggest that I consider actions which don't immediately benefit the town as not pro-town even though nothing in my post suggests that. My statement is not in any way inconsistent with "the end justifies the means". In fact, the opposite is true since bandwagonning is all about the end justifying the means.

If you have other reasons for suspecting me, then you haven't mentioned them.

And I still stand by everything I said.

since it just boils down to a specious reading of one of my statements.

Generally thats all it takes.




Lets Steam-Power this Wagon.

This timer

should be accurate in terms of deadline.

Vote Count 3 - 19: Lynch

Steam-Powered Shovel -

7

- Jack, SpyreX, MehPlusRawr, Cobalt, Papa Zito, SocioPath, Anon
xvart - 2 - Iecerint, Kmd4390
Iecerint - 2 - Cyberbob, Starbuck
Jack - 1 - Steam-Powered Shovel
Kmd4390 - 1 - curiouskarmadog
Budja - 1 - xvart
curiousjarmadog - 1 - Budja
Cobalt - 1 - farside22

Not Voting (2): SensFan, ooba

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

[farside22]

It's an unnecessary gambit to let NK'd town revive when you can stop it anonymously. Also, I thought you thought SPS was fakeclaiming (assuming safeclaim=fakeclaim)?

And had he stopped my revival with his claim wouldn't he looke even more scummy.
Would you like cheese with that wine
*gives Iecerint the middle finger*
He said something that made me think and it can be proven. So I'm think if he can prove it then let him prove it. I can't see scum with something that is an every time ability. Sorry someone would have to explain why that think that scum would get something that can be used once a day.
In my view I imagine scum in a one shot ability like that.

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: Actually, he'd last just as long, so it's an equally lame thing to totally fakeclaim. 's still infinite roleblock claims, I guess, though scum probably wouldn't want to stop the stopping of the typical revivals, anyway, so it'd be hard to believe.

[Jack]

No no. The point is, you are talking about how it doesn't make sense for scum with unlimited revive blocks to not block the revival of farside. But why do you think he has unlimited revive blocks? If he only had 2 or 3 and was scum, wouldn't he claim to have unlimited to make the role "too powerful for scum"?

[Iecerint]

Um, no? He could (hypothetically) stop your revival anonymously, so scumSPS could keep you dead with impunity.

scumSPS with a one-shot rather than unlimited block would make more sense; I'll buy that much. There are only 2 SoF in the story from what I understand, though, so their being relatively OP would fit.

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: OK, farside could conceivably not be elfscum if SoF HoM'd deadSPS is overstating the quantity but correctly stating the quality of his power. I gotcha there now. Maybe the other is when he's Silmaril'd.

Unvote: Vote: SPS

. I'm going to eat soon, and I'm not sure when I'll be back.

[xvart]

SPS - Can you still stay the locked in revive or destroy? Or once they are locked in is your power no longer usable for that day? Would it be appropriate to ask what happens when you hold the Simaril?

Why, if this power was scum, would SPS ever allow someone to be revived (unless they were on the same team)? Under that assumption, then SPS and Farside and Drippereth (assuming it goes through) would all have to be on the same team. Since it is an anonymous action it couldn't be tracked (unless by other watcher/tracker type roles) easily.

He said something that made me think and it can be proven. So I'm think if he can prove it then let him prove it.

The only problem is I want both actions to go through tonight. We need a flip on Elscouta and I think Drippereth should come back (although I could be convinced to let this slide a day; but that seems more problematic by letting one less likely town back in the game).

CBwagon was never sketchy. CBplayer was sketchy. CKD was like "Vote: Jack. CB is town." just after some other people had done something similar.

Thanks for the clarification. You are still scum.

Unvote
Vote: Iecerint

xvart.

[curiouskarmadog]

KMD fucking "suggested" that a role could be given to another person...what I am fucking trying to figure out is was that just for FFFF or does he know that anyone could get their role stolen....I want to know more (and again KMD is useless)...what if the role can only be stolen if the person is dead (like FFFF). then the role COULD be used by scum to manipulate, but it isnt as strong as giving it directly to them.

I dont think this is a good lynch...

unvote

a cobalt lynch and flip would tell us little( but I have been fucked by lurkers too much).....

I would join it...but time is so short, we would get a chance to get a claim from him.

[Jack]

SoF HoM'd deadSPS

[curiouskarmadog]

cross post...

if SPS is scum, then I think the claim is fake....I cant see scum coming out with this claim..it doesnt make since.

[Iecerint]

@ Jack, "if SPS dies and ends up in the Hall of Mandos because he is lying about being a Vanir and is actually Elfscum hence by flavor a Son of Feanor."

[curiouskarmadog]

Vote: Iecerint

better wagon

[Míriel Therindë]

This timer

should be accurate in terms of deadline.

Vote Count 3 - 20: Lynch

Steam-Powered Shovel -

8

- Jack, SpyreX, MehPlusRawr, Cobalt, Papa Zito, SocioPath, Anon, Iecerint
xvart - 1 - Kmd4390
Iecerint - 4 - Cyberbob, Starbuck, xvart, curiouskarmadog
Jack - 1 - Steam-Powered Shovel
curiousjarmadog - 1 - Budja
Cobalt - 1 - farside22

Not Voting (2): SensFan, ooba

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

[Iecerint]

Fun fact: that's the first time CKD has typed my name in any of its permutations (iec, ice, icerint, iecerint, icerink, yerkrint) all game. Neat, right?

Officially off for pizza. I will be very annoyed if we No Lynch.

[SpyreX]

Realistically there is not another option and I'm gonna be pissed if we nolynch.

Make it happen.

Shoot sensfan tonight tia.

[Jack]

farside, ckd, xvart. If a no lynch happens it's because of them.

[Papa Zito]

Hey all, I'll reread this and make a post tonight.

Warning ahead of time: Things at work just got super heavy so my participation will be sporadic for the next week(ish)

I'm still at work so nevermind and we seem to be at deadline anyway.

CKD wagon tomorrow from the oh-so-brief skim I just did.

[SpyreX]

46 minutes.

If I find evidence of anyone on the site and not on the wagon I will push for their doom. Period.

[farside22]

God damn it

unvote
vote: SPS

[Papa Zito]

farside, ckd, xvart. If a no lynch happens it's because of them.

Why are Kmd, Cyberbob, Starbuck, Budja excused?

God damn it I have to get back to work. lol

[farside22]

46 minutes.

If I find evidence of anyone on the site and not on the wagon I will push for their doom. Period.

Your lucky I believe in lynches. Your also lucky I'm on the uncertain side with SPS and his claim. Too much WIFOM these last few pages for my taste.

[farside22]

farside, ckd, xvart. If a no lynch happens it's because of them.

Why are Kmd, Cyberbob, Starbuck, Budja excused?

God damn it I have to get back to work. lol

Nvm SensFan or Ooba in all this either.

[xvart]

farside, ckd, xvart. If a no lynch happens it's because of them.

Yes, of course... Don't even give two shits about Cyberbob, Starbuck, Budja, SensFan, ooba...

God damn it

QFT.

Unvote
Vote: SPS

xvart.

[Míriel Therindë]

Vote Count 3 - 21: Lynch

Steam-Powered Shovel -

10

- Jack, SpyreX, MehPlusRawr, Cobalt, Papa Zito, SocioPath, Anon, Iecerint, farside22, xvart
xvart - 1 - Kmd4390
Iecerint - 4 - Cyberbob, Starbuck, curiouskarmadog
Jack - 1 - Steam-Powered Shovel
curiousjarmadog - 1 - Budja

Not Voting (2): SensFan, ooba

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

[Míriel Therindë]

Thus ended Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all who harbored in the Woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days . . ." (Silmarillion, 208)

Steam-Powered Shovel

has been lynched and is removed to the

Halls of Mandos

.

---

J-Scope

has been revived.

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FeFiFoFum, Beleg, Town Watcher

of the race of

Elves

was Destroyed and is removed

Beyond the Circles of the World

.

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