Pick Your Power III: A Brave New World

[Faraday]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 9

Sando

- 1 -

mb53

- (L-8)

mb53

- 1 -

Sando

- (L-8)

Faraday

- 1 -

Parama

- (L-8)

Dramonic

- 4 -

Fate

,

Ellibereth

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Socrates

- (L-5)

Zoiaum

- 1 -

Hoopla

- (L-8)

Players not voting 8 : 12keyblade, CryMeARiver, Dramonic, Faraday, Pomegranate, PranaDevil, Zang, Zoiaum

what do you think of the chances of him killing his scummates if he's scum.

Ah, wonderful question. Allow me to answer.
If Dramonic is scum-vig, he will happily shoot townies without any second thoughts. However if we guide him to shoot a scumbuddy and he doesn't do such, we catch 2 scum! Especially if this shot comes after a guided kill to a townie.

Yeah, this is sorta true.

Pom not being roleblocked last night makes the jailker (if there is one) confirmed town too. She claimed a result iirc or hinted at one.

[Faraday]

w/ jailkeeper being town he has no excuse so that's valid. Might be worth keeping him around then on the slim chance he is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

However if we guide him to shoot a scumbuddy and he doesn't do such, we catch 2 scum! Especially if this shot comes after a guided kill to a townie.

He's just shoot his buddy for extra town-cred.

[Hoopla]

I thought dramonic was probably scum who killed manho, and the Universal backup is his buddy somewhere else down the order. But why would scum improve their chances of being tracked to a kill? They could have just had the vig submit both kills.

I think it's possible dramonic is the scum-vig, and they were worried about the same thing that happened to Porkens, so they spread their kills. Universal Backup doesn't seem like a super pro-town move to me, when you are so high up. There are plenty of other nice roles.

[Parama]

However if we guide him to shoot a scumbuddy and he doesn't do such, we catch 2 scum! Especially if this shot comes after a guided kill to a townie.

He's just shoot his buddy for extra town-cred.

Yeah my scenario is if he doesn't shoot the buddy. The shoot scenario is good as well because it ends up in a dead scum. Win-win situation, hear?

[DrippingGoofball]

I have a simple mind, Parama. I see scum, I lynch them. I'm also impatient for glory and victory.

[Parama]

I see scum.
I'm lynching them.

[Ellibereth]

I agree with Hoopla kinda.
I think that Dram is the JANITOR who submitted the kill and there's an UBU further down.
Doesn't make a difference. We're lynching Dram.

[Parama]

;_;

##unvote

##vote: dramonic

since it's inevitable anyways

[Pomegranate]

I agree with Hoopla kinda.
I think that Dram is the JANITOR who submitted the kill and there's an UBU further down.
Doesn't make a difference. We're lynching Dram.

Something like this I think. Dram is our best shot today, IMO. He may be town, but I think not.

##Vote: dramonic

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[Socrates]

The two scum we have caught did not roll the dice. It is extremely likely that at least 1 of the scum left and possibly 2 of them did do so (and didn't lie about it). Most players rolled 9's.

I guess what I am saying is that I will eat my hat if all 4 9's are town.

And using the neighborhood defense for 9 is pretty dumb with that in mind.

[Ellibereth]

I've been thinking about asking the JANITOR if town, to claim. Thoughts?

[Pomegranate]

Makes sense, Elli.

[Socrates]

What reason do we need the Janitor to claim? He hasn't been using his ability, so it doesn't really matter.

[Ellibereth]

If there is no janitor within the SOC, ZOAI, and SANDO. We know for a fact that DRAM is lying scum, right?

[Parama]

I've been thinking about asking the JANITOR if town, to claim. Thoughts?

I asked for a town-jan claim in my very first post :/

[Socrates]

Ok. I'm the janitor.

Incedentally, where is the scum counterwagon to save Dram if he is scum? Has the scum team just given up already?

I guess Zo tried to be one, but that was undermined before it even began?

[Hoopla]

Nice play theiving the Janitor Socrates. Although, I'm wondering you were pushing massclaim when it is quite likely you would have come under a lot of pressure for having the Janitor role.

[DrippingGoofball]

Incedentally, where is the scum counterwagon to save Dram if he is scum? Has the scum team just given up already?

Not enough members to swing the momentum?

[DrippingGoofball]

Socratescum might have found himself painted into a corner and having to claim.

[PranaDevil]

Anyone have a votecount?

Also, don't hammer too fast, we need to get night actions in people.

[Socrates]

Meh, I expect my claim to kill me eventually. I was hoping to just get myself nightkilled and avoid this whole problem, but my poor play put an end to that.

Also, it would be really, really easy for me to fakeclaim, so.

[dramonic]

I agree with Hoopla kinda.
I think that Dram is the JANITOR who submitted the kill and there's an UBU further down.
Doesn't make a difference. We're lynching Dram.

Something like this I think. Dram is our best shot today, IMO. He may be town, but I think not.

##Vote: dramonic

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This has been disproved, your argument is therefore invalid
I picked UBU for a simple reason
nobody in their right mind would pick it in the first 3 and since I have no way of knowing if people above me picked vig, doc, JKer, cop or whatever else, safest (and in my opinion best) way to get a PR. I was vanilla in the first 2, didnt wanna risk being vanilla whe I'm in the effing top 5.

Also, Fate/DGB/Parama (I think) pointed it out already. With no redirecter alive, you can just direct my kills if you dont trust me and I'm sure to hit my mark. If I am scum and another scum picked a protective role, he wont block my targets since he doesnt want to have his buddy lynched. If I dont shoot who you tell me, I get lynched. The very worst that could happen is the jailer blocks me and we end with a mislynch (but no misshot)

Hell, if you really dont trust me have a weak doc or cop investigate me.

There is no protown benifit to lynch me. If I'm town its a mislynch, if I'm scum I'm caught and have to obey.

Hello?

[PranaDevil]

If the town decides a Dram lynch, I'm down with that. If the town wants to keep him alive and direct his vigging, I'm down with that too.

Although I'm still wary considering Dram said he should have vigged me, despite, y'know... me being obv. town.

[Pomegranate]

I agree with Hoopla kinda.
I think that Dram is the JANITOR who submitted the kill and there's an UBU further down.
Doesn't make a difference. We're lynching Dram.

Something like this I think. Dram is our best shot today, IMO. He may be town, but I think not.

##Vote: dramonic

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This has been disproved, your argument is therefore invalid
I picked UBU for a simple reason
nobody in their right mind would pick it in the first 3 and since I have no way of knowing if people above me picked vig, doc, JKer, cop or whatever else, safest (and in my opinion best) way to get a PR. I was vanilla in the first 2, didnt wanna risk being vanilla whe I'm in the effing top 5.

Also, Fate/DGB/Parama (I think) pointed it out already. With no redirecter alive, you can just direct my kills if you dont trust me and I'm sure to hit my mark. If I am scum and another scum picked a protective role, he wont block my targets since he doesnt want to have his buddy lynched. If I dont shoot who you tell me, I get lynched. The very worst that could happen is the jailer blocks me and we end with a mislynch (but no misshot)

Hell, if you really dont trust me have a weak doc or cop investigate me.

There is no protown benifit to lynch me. If I'm town its a mislynch, if I'm scum I'm caught and have to obey.

Hello?

I could agree with leaving you alive for one night if it must happen, but not for longer. We can't let you live on until endgame.