mini 943- Greek Mythology! (And the winner is... ?)

[Iecerint]

Hmm. Why Andrius over FF (or LC)?

[Plum]

Hmm. Why Andrius over FF (or LC)?

Sorry; missed that. Yesterday he was doing lots of insinuating scumminess without backing up his logic (well, the way I read it he was pulling a scummy spin off random stuff out of his ass), in any case threw suspicion left and right and didn't take a concrete stance. Today again he does stuff like saying Alm wanted to 'smoke' SB and the actual flavor was that he blew her away. Useless, trivial, gives it a subtle spin that Alm's scummy for it when it's so far beyond null my brain wants to explode. I remember FF as erratic and insinuating things about my positions which I thought were stupid (including repeatedly stating in his reasons for suspecting me that I was on the popular SD wagon when in fact I'd initiated it with the first vote of the game). He seemed to have come around to some of the explanations of this, though, increasing the chances of him being just someone who somehow (bigger somehow than I'm completely comfortable with, honestly) didn't see the situation properly at first at all, which has been known to happen. Andrius has been slimier in comparison.

[Iecerint]

Yeah, I just glanced over your iso, and I suppose that's consistent with your prior perspective. Your actual votepost isn't so great, though.

[Jack]

Game is dying. Let's lynch almaster.

[Iecerint]

We're not lynching Alma. We're lynching someone on my list.

Plum is my preferred choice. Indicate your preferred choice if you prefer someone on my list other than Plum.

[Jack]

I like flava best from your list by far. But I don't get the alma love.

[Iecerint]

OK. That doesn't hurt my feelings.

Unvote; Vote: Flava Flav

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I suppose there's no harm in claiming the bit regarding Alma. The D2-skip let me investigate him; "town" results. It's possible that he's an investi-proof SK or Hades GF (with lolAres fakeclaim), but I don't think he's the preferred lynch. If he's an SK, I imagine he'll be willing to target within a narrow set of choices to prove that he's not, in which case scum will deal with him. The Hades GF angle is a wrench, but it's nonetheless not a possibility worth lynching him over IMO.

Knowing that my role had Cop-lite abilities associated with it is part of what made me skeptical of VV's claim.

[Shadow Dancer]

Wow, what... Trying to inniciate a mass claim, Iec? You claim cop without scum results and even no significant waggon on Alma, whom you defend? Why?!

Any way, I do not want to withhold my vote any longer. I also distrust FF, right now.

vote FF

I might reconsider my opinion tomorrow after some more ISO rereads and background reading.

DeathNote: Vote count, please.

[Iecerint]

I'm not claiming cop; I'm claiming that I could investigate Alma because of the extra night. I thought I could maneuver us into lynching someone else without claiming it, but, since I can't investigate again AFAIK, there's little benefit in doing it that way. So I went ahead and claimed it.

Part of the reason I focused on Plum is that she distanced from Almawagon (which, frankly, would've looked great to me under ordinary circumstances) while weakly attacking a player in ways unlikely to derail Almawagon. But her iso does indicate some prior Andy suspicion.

NB: Don't forget to take care of that.

[Shadow Dancer]

So you claim 1 shot SP alihnemnt cop, do I understand it correctly now?

Were is every one?

[Iecerint]

I claimed that I investigated Alma N2 and can't really do so again. I don't see a reason to elaborate beyond that.

And good question.

[Iecerint]

Actually. I just thought of something that slightly raises the prior probability that Alma is Hades GF. Hmm. Will not elaborate.

But I don't think I'd be comfortable lynching him on that basis alone.

[Iecerint]

Ah, nevermind. I retract that. Back to not seriously considering the possibility.

[ooba]

Need to re-read ..

[Jack]

That's a terrible reason for suspecting VV's claim.

[Iecerint]

It wasn't the ONLY reason for suspecting VV's claim. It was an EXTRA reason for suspecting VV's claim.

[Jack]

I'll have to think about this. I like flava as a suspect but people mysteriously clearing my suspects while dangling "could be sk or hades" but deciding they aren't, and "reconsidering" briefly, etc, make me uncomfortable.

[Iecerint]

He is town, or he is investi-immune, or I was busdriven/redirected -- in that order of probability. SK/Hades GF are just the circumstances most likely to explain the investi-immune possibility.

[Andrius]

Game is dying. Let's lynch almaster.

lol. Because that solves our lack of participation problems. /sarcasm

We're lynching someone on my list.

Your list being:

Vote: Plum. My next-favorite suspects are FF and LC. Joh is 4th.

This?
If I had to pick one it'd be FF. His latest post didn't offer anything new or unique, just kind of posting to post and seem like he's doing something.

A GF Hades? I think its possible, since DN wouldn't want Poseidon and Hades, the two biggest players, to die off that quickly. But I've never played in a game with a GF, so I don't know all the quirks behind that role, ie, what they can and can't do.

Part of the reason I focused on Plum is that she distanced from Almawagon (which, frankly, would've looked great to me under ordinary circumstances)

Wait, which would've looked great, Plum distancing herself from the Almawagon, or the Almawagon itself?

Vote: Flava Flave

I'd like to hear from Joh and LC. Its been a couple days.

[Iecerint]

You're not reading the whole sentence. Plum distancing from very-plausible-except-for-my-result Almawagon while pushing a case on you with weaker reasoning unlikely to trump the lack of a second kill N1 or Alma's bad vig choice. The result is that Alma is lynched and Plum looks town for being against it. This is different from 2TOWN4TOWN because she isn't *really* going against Almawagon; she perceives that it'll go without her, so she pretends to scumhunt elsewhere while letting it proceed to its natural conclusion.

Old Andy suspicion in her iso makes her behavior a little less suspicious, though.

[AlmasterGM]

I'm confused by all this beating around the bus. Iecerint, you're claiming that you investigated Plum last night and got a guilty?

[AlmasterGM]

*bus = bush.

[Iecerint]

No, silly. I targeted you and got an innocent. Given that, I thought Plum looked suspicious, but reading her iso made me reconsider.

[Johoohno]

Sorry for the absence, work will keep me busy for some time now, don’t expect posts from me more than every second (IRL) day or so.

If it’s not possible to get enough playes to lynch

AlmasterGM’s

(a player who claims vig, kills someone he’s got a neutral read on, that being a person with very little connections to anyone else but a confirmed dead townie, and then mysteriously looses that ability) I could agree on

Flava

(who bases many of his votes on next to nothing) or

Andrius

(who often sits on the fence fishing). After that there is just a grey mush where the players jump on and off my scum-o-meter. Need to check back on day 1 and think some.

@ Iecerint and Jack:

I’d like you to comment what you feel about the other one.

Finally, seems as if I have to scrap my theory mentioned earlier.

[LordChronos]

Sorry for the lack of posts guys. I have been re-reading the thread and I really don't like Andrius's posts earlier. The scumtells he is attributing to people don't really seem to be scumtells in several cases.

So I will,

Vote: Andrius