Rapture Mafia - Over!

[sorasgoof]

sora's list is bad.

I don't understand why you guys don't jump all over posts like this. It's like you pick one person and focus only on what that person does. Does this not qualify as anti-town? Way to post reasoning.

[Fate]

Not picking up prod before those people I quoted post.

FFFF got banned

again?

LULZ.

/Lurk

[sorasgoof]

Picking up prod, even though I have probably more posts than all of the people I said needed to post more combined. :p

[CryMeARiver]

Picking up prod, even though I have probably more posts than all of the people I said needed to post more combined. :p

Same here

[Chronopie]

ditto

[Knight of Cydonia]

Picking up prod despite posting 3 hours before prod.

Anyway, Chronopie understands what I am (very poorly) attempting to say: misrep is a very, very weak scum tell unless you can categorically prove it is deliberate.
Bandwagoning is a much more overt scum tell, is being committed (apparently) by two other players, and yet soras is focusing on what may or may not be misrep. It's poor play. Is poor play necessarily scummy? No. Is it scummy that he continues to push it despite people pointing out that worse offences have been committed, and he has acknowledged them but continued to tunnel? Yes.

[xRECKONERx]

The Others:

Getting town reads from (As in, I haven't seen anything I consider scummy).

4. CryMeARiver
11. Chronopie

Players that have done things that I consider to be scum-tells, but don't necessarily believe are scum (yet):

6. SpyreX
8. xRECKONERx
13. Fate

Neutral Reads (Can't tell either way):

9. Leech
14. RedCoyote
16.Knight of Cydonia

Problems: SpyreX and Fate are my strongest two town reads, and KoC is a soft town read. I find RC's placement appropriate, but CMAR also gives off a slightly scummy gut vibe.

[Nachomamma8]

I DID NOT NOTICE THIS GAME.

Vote: Knight of Cydonia

[Knight of Cydonia]

I DID NOT NOTICE THIS GAME.

Vote: Knight of Cydonia

Explain.

[RedCoyote]

Of course I'm having misgivings. Especially if you want to join the wagon now too.

"Of course" what? I don't understand. Are you telling me it's obvious?

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This is what I'm talking about when I say it's hard to scumhunt. Are you telling me you can get reads on these people?

Who are you asking this to? sora, you seriously need to get out of this self-pity mode. I think it's clouding your judgment, and it may very well be clouding people's reads on you.

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Nacho, how did you not notice this game? You were the last person to confirm. I mean, you confirmed AFTER we started. Then you come up with a vote out of the blue? Don't you care to read a little bit of the game? I'm with KoC, you need to explain yourself immediately.

[SpyreX]

KoC in 193 you lay out the path to why this is really troubling yet don't throw the vote it makes me

That said, I was nice, I gave a chance for some "scumhunting" to happen and this is what I got.

I am not amused.

Lets play a game called LYNCH THAT SCUM:

I'll start out with two key pieces of information: his lurkers are lurkers. His towns are pretty tech.

Then it gets to the fun bit.

First, while his lurkers ARE lurkers instead of opting to apply pressure to any of them or even say the lurking is scummy he... throws it down like its some kinda powerbomb 9000 proving some point that has never even been issued.

The towns, *gasp* are probably town.

Its the other two lists I'm calling scum teaparty on.

9. Leech
14. RedCoyote
16.Knight of Cydonia

Now, lets look at this list. And odd grouping, to be sure.

Leech has one post. That is answering questions with nothing, again I repeat, nothing to say about this game. (Ding dong)
Red (for those playing along the guy he reflexively attacked when called out for doing nothing) is still a neutral read. The person who quotes like:

Point is, I've been active in this game. Not much of an opportunity to scumhunt has been presented yet (RVS votes are still being placed...), and Coyote seems to be a player who likes to make a few really long posts, quoting everything,

just to seem helpful.

Is neutral. Yessir.
KoC (as of when this was posted by Soras) really was still doing mostly nothing (very compatible to ani the lurker). I'm "interested" to see how this shifts after the last few posts but alas, I wont hold my breath.

Red being here is the key point in this is junk. The interactions do NOT speak of a "neutral" read.

The winner in this category by a wide margin is Leech. No matter how I shuffle the cards him being "not a lurker" sends off those huge claxons of "one of these things is not like the other".

Then, we have the ARMADA OF MURDERATION

6. SpyreX
8. xRECKONERx
13. Fate

What's awesome here is more of what has been gone over BUT there's another key fact I want to make clear that makes me very sad that one of my bro's is probably a scumbolina:

No where does soras even try to pretend to look at what Reck and Fate are doing as separate. They're both just "bandwagoning". And, if that is scummy I'm still the #1 scum supremo because of my misreps.

Which are universally scummy as per soras but yet STILL no vote.

The fact that he's tying Fate and Reck so close together really makes me itchy that one of those two are a partner and he's trying to either sink em both or keep em both afloat.

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But, the real kicker? The real reason this is junk?

In all of that. ALL of it there is still only the two concrete reasons for anything (I'm scum because I'm "misrepping him", fate and reckoner are scum for bandwagoning him.)

The rest of it? White noise that isn't even uniform. With not a reason to be found.

The lurkers are lurkers but just lurkers.
The towns are towns because they are town.
The neutrals are neutral because they are neutral.

It looks real pretty and its lots of words but not a thing.

End result?

Soras is scum caught on a rope and if he flips scum I'd put cash money (or a bullet) in Leech. And chances are REAL high one of Fate/Reck (but I'd choke if both) are also scum.

[xRECKONERx]

Derp.

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC in 193 you lay out the path to why this is really troubling yet don't throw the vote it makes me

Did I not vote? I swear to God I intended to put a vote down after my second post on soras.
Well fuck.

Vote: soras

and for the record, I disagree with SpyreX on Leech for now purely because there is no interaction to tie him (Leech) to soras, whereas soras HAS attacked Coyote. That said, soras putting Leech in the Neutral Zone when he's posted sweet F-All is weird. Wouldn't be willing to draw any lynches solely from a soras flip yet: a) not my style as SpyreX can attest to (I despise lining up "If X is scum we lynch Y, if town we lynch Z) b) not nearly enough evidence to go on right now.

FWIW, Fate and Reck both read neutral for me. Fate slightly town, Reck slightly scum (but VERY slightly) because of "Derp." which is an entirely pointless post the game could live without.

[Chronopie]

It's called fluff posting. Derp, is fluff, Sorasgoof, is fluffy.

New policy lynch LaF, Lynch all fluffy-posters.

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SpyreX is town

Soras is not

Fate and Reck are sheep. (seems I made a similar accusation, about some of the same players, in another game not too long ago)

ntl

Unvote, Vote: Sorasgoof

[Fate]

Welp.

Ready to rejoin the Soras killing ala Spyrex being all convincing and shit.

But I keep my campaign promises.

I refuse to post content until all the other do first.

Nacho, that doesn't count. Well it does, but I wanna see moar from you.

R_C the "of course" is in reference too.. OH SHIT I CAN'T HELP IT! NO I WONT POST CONTENT!

[Budja]

Kise replaces FeFiFoFum.
killa seven has not picked up the game start PM and will be replaced.

Votecount coming shortly.

[Chronopie]

I guess Fate != Kise then lol.

[Fate]

KISE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MY COVERALT.

NOW MY OPTIONS ARE RUNNING THE **** OUT.

GOD DAMN IT.

[sorasgoof]

This is the most fail town I've ever seen in my life.

@Mod- requesting vote count

[Fate]

I'll post it for you:

Sorasgoof-Close to death.

Get busy refuting Spyrex's points, or get busy dyin.

[Budja]

I- I try to help, but- sometimes I

- I make mistakes

... I

try

to help! But sometimes I-

I make mistakes.

Votecount

4 - Chronopie: (Drives, CryMeARiver, Toon Fighter, RedCoyote)
4 - sorasgoof: (SpyreX, xRECKONERx, Knight of Cydonia, Chronopie)
2 - xRECKONERx: (sorasgoof, , Leech)
1 - horrordude0215: (bv310)
1 - Nachomamma8: (horrordude0215)
1 - MehPlusRawr: (animorpherv1)
1 - RedCoyote: (Fate)
1 - Knight of Cydonia: (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting: Kise, MehPlusRawr, killa seven

With

18

alive it will take

10

to lynch.

Deadline:

23rd May

[sorasgoof]

That said, I was nice, I gave a chance for some "scumhunting" to happen and this is what I got.

As if I did it because you told me to. >_>

Then it gets to the fun bit.

First, while his lurkers ARE lurkers instead of opting to apply pressure to any of them or even say the lurking is scummy he... throws it down like its some kinda powerbomb 9000 proving some point that has never even been issued.

I guess you conveniently skipped over the questions I put at the bottom for lurkers to answer? I couldn't have put pressure on them any other way than voting- they had like two posts each, and they were RVS votes.

The towns, *gasp* are probably town.

This is a problem? So, you're agreeing that my lurkers are un-tell-able, and my town reads are probably town, yet you're disagreeing that I'm narrowing the active-scum playing field?

I have to go to school right now, so I'll destroy the rest of your BS case later.[/quote]

[Fate]

10 POINTS TO GRIFFINDOR


...


LOL RC IS STILL VOTIN CHRONO?

[MehPlusRawr]

I like fluffernutter sandwiches.

I need to read the game.

[Fate]

Of course I'm having misgivings. Especially if you want to join the wagon now too.

I'll be back when I hear from these people.

1. Nachomamma8

2. bv310

3. animorpherv1
5. FeFiFoFum
7. Toon Fighter
9. Leech

10. horrordude0215

12. MehPlusRawr

15. killa seven

16.Knight of Cydonia

18. Drives

See ya space cowboy.

ACTIVITY GAUGE IS FILLING.

WE'RE ALMOST AT FULL POWER CAP'N

(Disclaimer: Only KoC on the list has actually posted content, but the others have at least acknowledged this game exists and have begun to play so I can label them as lurkers instead of inactives.)