Mini 947 - Halo Mafia OVER

[Shotty to the Body]

Role PMs

Welcome to Halo Mafia.

You are SPARTAN-117, Master Chief

. Each even night you may submit to me the name of a player you wish to kill. Your kill method may be chosen by you (within reason) and submitted to me each odd night. You can consult a list of Halo 3 weapons here. It is initially “riddled with bullets.”

Your Mjolnir armor is equipped with energy shields. These shields will protect you from the first kill made against you, but are depleted afterwards.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Virgil, Engineer

. Each night you may perform one of the following actions: Investigate, Protect, Busdrive. Each of these actions has one use and are expended afterwards.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Captain Keyes

. Too bad you don’t keep your pistol loaded, it’s pretty useless that way, but you can hand it to someone else and let him do the shooting. Once during the game you may send me the name of a player you would like to give your pistol to and they will receive a one-shot night kill.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Mod notes
Gun is destroyed if given to Flood. Using the gun is instead of a normal night action if the target has one.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Cortana, AI Construct

. Each night you may send me the name of a player you wish to aid. A player you aid may receive a positive effect based on their role. You will not be informed of the results.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Mod Notes
Infection Form: Can kill and scavenge or if just scavenging can pick from the pool
343 Guilty Spark: Grants double vote for the next day
Master Chief: Restores shields if they are down
Virgil: Restores last used ability
Keyes: Receives mod PM confirming Cortana as town
No effect on VTs, PGO, evolved Flood

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are the

Crazed Marine

. After watching your squad-mates be consumed by the Flood you’ve gone a little bonkers. Each night you either curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep at night or stay awake. Anyone that comes near you if you’re awake is going to get a face full of pistol rounds. Your kill method is “shot several times.”

You win when all threats to the town is eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Dadap, Grunt Deacon

. You have no special powers beyond your faith in the Great Journey. During the day you may vote for the player you would like to see lynched.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Sir Terrence Hood, Fleet Admiral

. You are the supreme commander of the UNSC, unfortunately that offers no benefits down here on the ground. During the day you may vote for the player you would like to see lynched.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

Dass, Militia Recruit

. You have no special abilities as you lost your rifle, shucks. During the day you may vote for the player you would like to see lynched.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are an

Infection Form

. You, X, and Y make up the Flood on this installation. Your time to escape and spread across the universe has come. Each night one of you may send me the name of a player you wish to kill. Your kill method is “consumed.”

Instead of performing a kill you may instead scavenge for a body to infest, if you do so you will receive an updated role PM reflecting your new abilities.

Your safe-claim is Sergeant Avery Johnson/Catherine Elizabeth Halsey, Scientist/Thel 'Vadam the Arbiter.

You win when your faction makes up a majority of the town at the start of day.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Mod Notes
Can evolve into a rolecop, 1-shot Strongman, redirector, or Encryptor (provides daytalk). Flavor is stealth elite, Combat form w/ Rockets, Female Navy Officer, and Brain Form respectively.

Welcome to Halo Mafia. You are

343 Guilty Spark

. These intruders are not Reclaimers, they are trying to destroy YOUR installation. That won’t do at all. jasonT1981, their construct Cortana, has stolen the Index and you need to retrieve it. Lynch her to get it back. If Cortana is destroyed before you can recover it, it will be up to you eliminate the Flood and the intruders manually. You will receive an updated role PM and wincon at that time.

You win when Cortana is lynched.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Mod Notes
Becomes a serial killer if lynch condition fails.

I considered survivor as an alternate wincon instead of SK. I probably would've regretted writing it the way I did if it had happened. Also if it's alright with the mafia I'll post the QT.

[Shotty to the Body]

The gun wasn't returnable. Master Chief's even night shooting had more to do with balance than flavor.

[Kast]

Good game, thanks for running it mod. I enjoyed it and watching how things turned out.

It felt much more a game loss for scum than a game win for town. pman just set himself up for the lynch and didn't seem to care about it.

A PGO is an interesting balancing role, the better town is doing, the more dangerous it is for town (balances to help scum), and the worse town is doing, the more dangerous it becomes for scum (balances to town). Drawing the mafia kill on N1 is pretty much the best outcome for town, but it wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad for mafia without the pman lynch D1.

I thought Reck played really well on the whole until D3, when he inexplicably became kinda lynch crazy. I shared that thought with the mod and I was glad to see most of the townies (llamas/dos/xvart) all noticed Reck's sudden/inexplicable change in behavior as well. Good job guys.

[xRECKONERx]

I'm sorry, but this just wasn't balanced correctly.

TOWN PRS:
Odd-night vig with one-shot BP
JOAT
Vig-maker (who can't even give the scum an extra NK)
Motivator
PGO

THIRD PARTY:
Lyncher who would turn SK (are you serious?)

SCUM:
Basically all goons, with the chance for us to become one of the following: rolecop (kinda useful, maybe as a long-shot), 1-shot strongman (only useful if we hit MC), redirector (the only particularly useful role)

I had fun playing this even though it was pretty fucked from the start, but I can't honestly say this was balanced at all for a mini game. Third party in a mini-game can usually unbalance it pretty easily... add in the fact that town had a ridiculous amount of PRs compared to the fact that the scum started as all goons and it's really not balanced. Sure, scum imploded, but even if we had played pitch-perfect I have a hard time believing we could've won anyway.

[shaft.ed]

meh, swingy yes, i dont think it was poorly balanced outside of the vig-maker not being able to give their gun to scum.

But yeah hella swingy

[Shotty to the Body]

You were warned it was swingy. Even with a worst case D1 you still had a shot of winning and if the votes of xvart and llama had come down differently you would've been in a 3-man endgame in all likelihood. I don't see how you dismiss day talk as not useful at all, the JOAT didn't have a kill, and the vig-maker has to correctly give the gun to a townie and then the townie has to successfully choose a target. PGO and Motivator were both double-edged swords, the motivator only benefited scum this game and the PGO cut each team in this game.

The scum are all goons for the first night and then 2 or possibly all 3 become a PR. Rolecop and Redirector have great synergy and day-talk is incredibly useful in my opinion. I'm sorry if you didn't like it Reck but it is balanced. There are certain combinations of events that make it hard for both sides to win, but like I said swingy was advertised.

[xRECKONERx]

Daytalk's pretty damn useless if you don't have anyone to talk to, or your partner is lurky, or whatever. I don't know how you can say I had a shot at winning despite the "worst case" D1 - llama and xvart could confirm each other. That drastically reduced my chances of winning. Not to mention, it's just LUCK that AGM decided to pull the lyncher-cop gambit like that, otherwise I would've been in an even more fucked position at the end.

[Shotty to the Body]

Llama wasn't confirmed. God forbid the lyncher tries to fulfill his wincon, clearly luck. Statistically what happened D1 happens 2.75% if the time, no mod can plan for every minute possibility.

[xRECKONERx]

I'm not bashing you at all. I'm just saying... no game should be in lylo on D3. When you have a role that's incredibly swingy like the PGO (and essentially punishes both town and scum for good hunting), combined with a third-party role that leaves the game upon fulfilling its wincon, and a whole host of other killing roles, it's a little hard to calculate such minute possibilities.

PGO is an awful role BECAUSE it punishes good play from either side, as we clearly saw on N1 - both scum AND town went after Kast.

Anyway, here's the quicktopic for anyone who cares.

[Kast]

I may be biased, but I'd say PGO punished scum for good play and punished town for bad play in this game

[Shotty to the Body]

Halo is about killing, it's hard to give people roles that don't involve killing when you're an alien menace or whatever. Most games can end on D3 with optimal town play or unfortunate scum play, even newbies or normals. I realized when I put a PGO in I would most likely receive complaints. It included the option to just turn it off which was some form of consolation. I think this is the only setup I ever designed that included it. I see where you're coming from with the complaints I doubt I'll use another PGO for a while, but I can't say for sure for mod WIFOM purposes kk?

[bv310]

I think this would work better as a full-size game with more VTs. This many PRs was hella swingy for a 12 man game. In a 20, it would have worked well.

[Shotty to the Body]

I'll keep that in mind. Actually it's kind of embarrassing, but this was meant to be a different game using damage/heal mechanics that didn't get finished in time so I dusted this setup off. It was one of the first I wrote which is why it's so swingy. I thought it would provide a good amount of theme fun, so I apologize if anyone didn't enjoy themselves.

[AlmasterGM]

I agree with the swingy but not unbalanced sentiment.

First of all, the results of D1 were 100% the fault of the scum and had nothing to do with the setup. The PGO shooting scum was really, really unlucky, but statistically he has more of a chance of shooting town versus scum, so saying the PGO was unbalanced doesn't seem true. Me being third party didn't hurt the scumteam at all - the town believing my gambit meant a free town PR lynch, and if they hadn't it would've meant free lynch on me. So the only other "flaw" that could exist is llama and xvart confirming each other. At worst for scum, this operated no differently from having two masons - a common role. At best, their claim was dubious because there was no guarantee llama didn't have 117 as a fakeclaim.

So yeah, pretty good game. I had fun.

[Faraday]

i wanted to join this game but was too busy. sorry i didn't. set-up was swingy as hell (lovely) but it looks reasonably balanced to some degree.

almaster's cop claim was great given the circumstances.

[Snow White]

Ah im late to the after party but it be okaies.

I cant say how much i LOVED this game. It was an incredibly fast paced fun game with plenty of interaction. My thinking being a JOAT was to ensure Kast (who seemed one of the most intelligent) was town. Needless to say it blew up in my face. I was devastated to be gone so early but i do not regret joining the game at all.

Scum were pretty much screwed with two scum down but Reck could have nearly pulled a win out of his ass if he hadnt got so accusatory and lynch happy imho.

Thanks for the game Shotty! i think anyone who debates that this was not a fun action packed game are just very sore.

[xvart]

I agree with the swingy but not unbalanced sentiment.

And the fact that the swinginess was apparent (at least to me based on my role) and could have occurred due to poor town decisions. The internal dialogue I had with myself each day leading up to night was atrocious. I assumed that if I gave the gun to scum it would allow an additional NK which worried me greatly. I guess it turned out better that I kept the gun anyway since I was able to confirm myself that way.

Reckoner - just out of curiosity, if I had gave you the gun the night you killed Jeromus

and

you were able to kill again, who would you have killed?

xvart.

[DragonsofSummer]

I just want to say, thank you for listening to reason xvart and llama!

I agree that you got a raw deal though reck.

[MeMe]

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