Open 213 -- Mini Love (Over)

[Yankee]

possibly, and if it is then I apologize, but I dont think so this time. And an Easjo lynch I wouldnt totally be opposed to either honestly. But we need to hurry up what we are going to do because Deadline is approaching if I remember correctly.

[Nikanor]

Trust me, Yankee? Pretty please? I don't think that Wolf is scum.

Unvote. Vote: easjo.

I think we're just as good to wait to lynch the lovers. Hell, if the scum kills the town lovers, it'll save us from having to decide.

[Yankee]

Well I am already voting Easjo I believe, so I guess me not being able to decide leaves me voting Easjo anyways. But I am really for either or at the moment.

[Chronopie]

Unvote, Vote:Easjo

I'd rather lynch this scummy guy, than lose a lover today.

[ksen]

Yankee, stop being paranoid about your lover. You did this last game, too. You claimed H_H as your partner and then tried to self-hammer, saying that you thought H_H was scum (for reasons that I will never comprehend). I feel like the same thing is going on in this game. The fact that there is a 50% chance your partner is scum is getting to you.

50%? Shouldn't that be 33%? If Yankee is town then that means the treacherous lover is among the 3 remaining lovers, giving TLW a 33% chance of being scum.

I'm not taking for granted that the people who claimed first are necessarily town.

[Nikanor]

Assuming Yankee is town, he has a 50% chance of being in the town-town lover pair and a 50% chance of being in the town-scum lover pair.

[TheLoneWolf]

Oh holy fuck.

1. I have a Spike Spiegel avatar. I gave my huge last townie post that would be ignored after I died, I said Bang at the end of it. It was epic. Why did you all have to fuck that up for me?

2. I've been forced to post again. Nikanor just claimed scum. YES I KNOW I JUST DID A COMPLETE 180.

3. We're still lynching me today. No objections, ffs.


Re2: Nikanor. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU VOTING EASJO. You just said you had a town read on me. Everyone should have a town read on Yankee. Therefore from YOUR POV BASED ON YOUR READS, YOU SHOULD BE VOTING CHRONO IF YOU WANT TO HIT SCUM TODAY.

Easjo is not obvscum. Easjo said something retarded "Yankee is falseclaiming" and not much else. Easjo is a shot in the dark, whereas voting Chrono would result in a sure scumdead in this cycle, based on your reads anyway. And you and I BOTH know that I'm either scum or I'm not, so don't come back with some bullshit about how I might still be treacherous.

And DONT come back with some BS about how "I already said I was against a lover's lynch." Yeah ok, but IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS, you are now against a scum lynch (since Yankee and I are both probtown from your POV You got some SERIOUS SPLAININ TO DO.

@Town: From your POV I am now chainsaw defending Easjo. Please stick to the plan and lynch me. Voting easjo will just result in a mislynch, with the town lovers NOT being NK'd (surprise surprise) so scumlover is protected, and then a shitty long D2 that will result in a LyLo or something D3 (don't really know the numbers, don't care, since we should lynch me today not Easjo). Also FORGET WHAT I SAID ABOUT NIKANOR. There's no way he should be voting Easjo based on his own reads from his POV. He's trying to push a mislynch with his town cred instead of correctly voting the scumlovers.

Nikanor. I am disappoint. Especially with your attempts to keep me alive so that I can read you wrong later in the game.

[ksen]

TLW, I think I'm misunderstanding something . . . if town should have a probtown read on Yankee why should we be voting to lynch you?

You just said if we want to hit scum we ought to vote for Chrono.

Maybe I need to go and read your other long post again.

[TheLoneWolf]

Yeah if you want to hit scum lynch Chrono (from my POV). However that is risky as you don't know who his lover is, so it is hard to be "comfortable" in lynching an unknown scum, especially since I could be scum just trying to get Chrono to out his town lover through WIFOM and shit.

So basically (trying to make this clear):

1. We shouldn't lynch Chrono unless he outs his lover and we get a scum read on him.
2. Chrono shouldn't out his lover as TLW could be scumlover wanting to NK the out both townlovers tonight for killing. Also if TLW is scum, we can protect Chrono and have a confirmed town pair.
3. Ergo: we have to lynch TLW today.

I could link you to a few games where "the best play" also correlated (or would have, I didn't go with it at that time and it resulted in a loss with deep regrets) with the right play. So I'm encouraging town to always under most circumstances (D1 in particular with how unreliable reads are) to go with the best play, in hopes that in future games they will do so when it is actually the right play as well.

[XScorpion]

Clock is ticking, guys.
We are gonna be screwed if we don't lynch lovers today, so let's hurry up about it huh?

[Nikanor]

Wolf, why do you think that Yankee is scum? The short version, if you will.

[Chronopie]

Wolf never said Yankee was scum, he said that he had a town read.

He said that

TLW could be scumlover

As in he himself is the scummy partner, not Yankee.

Guys, I'm really sorry about this, but We

should

lynch me. NOT Yankee/Wolf.

Unvote, Vote:Chronopie

There will be no way to extract any info/a read from my partner. They're on the replacement list.

[Nikanor]

Wolf, I don't get why you'd push your own lynch if you think your partner is town. Not only that, but now you're pushing me to lynch the other lover pair. I don't like it. I feel like you're trying to WIFOM the town into lynching the other lovers, and that you're the treacherous lover.

[XScorpion]

Ugh.
So basically we have 3 claimed lovers, and now Chrono is saying that his lover is one of two possibilities.
Is it just me or did we just completely screw up day 1?

[Chronopie]

Yep, D1 is screwed. It's been screwed ever since Yankee outed Wolf.

I'm partnered w/ an inactive, so 0 info, and Yankee/wolf is outed.

[Chronopie]

@mod votecount, replacement status (seeing as one is my lover), and eta to deadline?

[Yankee]

ugh, i know this is kind of wifom and against everything I have suggested thus far, but wouldnt it have made somewhat since for the Mod to modkill the inactives if at least one was scum. That is the only way i can see a modkill on that, especially if one is a lover. The mod wouldnt have even considered it I believe if it would mean not only killing a townie, but also the town lovers. Therefore I am forced to rethink everything I have thought thus far and

Unvote; Vote: Chronopie

[Yankee]

and for me forgetting to bold.....

Unvote, Vote: Chronopie

[Chronopie]

That's why I protested against the modkill -.-

[ksen]

Yep, D1 is screwed. It's been screwed ever since Yankee outed Wolf.

Which is why I'm still convinced that Yankee is the best choice for lynch today. If he's the scum lover (which I think he is based on how he's done whatever he could to make this as difficult as possible for town) then we get rid of the scum and have TLW available to help us scumhunt for the other scum until the end of the day 2.

[Chronopie]

If I'm counting right, we have 9 hours until deadline.

@Mod: extension please

So who is the prime lynch? I'm confused as to who to vote: Easjo, Me, wolf, Yankee?

[ksen]

That's why I protested against the modkill -.-

What? Are you claiming one of the replacees is your lover? Are you prepared to tell us which one?

[CJMiller]

@mod votecount, replacement status (seeing as one is my lover), and eta to deadline?

Vote count 4

Nikanor 1 (easjo682)
Yankee 1 (ksen)

TheLoneWolf 2

(XScorpion, TheLoneWolf)
Looker 0
Henry Hathaway 0
Robocopter87 0
XScorpion 0
ksen 1 (DarkLightA)
DoItRiley 1 (Robocopter87)
DarkLightA 0

Chronopie 2

(Chronopie, Yankee)

easjo682 2

(Looker, Nikanor)

No Lynch 2

(Henry Hathaway, DoItRiley)

Twelve players having started the Day, a majority is seven.

Deadline is 6.25 PM EDT (10.25 PM GMT) Friday April 16, which is

1 day 4 hours 44 minutes

away.

Replacements are nowhere to be found.

[CJMiller]

EBWOP:

Per Rule 16, if the Day were to end now, there would be a nolynch.

[Yankee]

at Ksen - 2 things, first when you lynch me today, Wolf commits suicide tonight, you WILL NOT have him to help you tomorrow. That is kind of obvious, not sure how you would think otherwise. Secondly, Chrono has suggested his lover is inactive for about a week now, just go read him in ISO. Thats why I am willing to vote Chrono now instead of me because he has virtually outed his lover as well....