Square Enix Mafia I: Diabolus Erus (GAME OVER)

[Zodiark13]

Can Yerk or someone explain the flavor to me in uberfast summary fashion?

Bunch of FF character get thrown into a different dimension, and, rather than fight it out, they discuss who to kill in an abnormally rational fashion.

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Vote Count:

Missing you...

PranaDevil: 3

(inHimshallibe, Devotress, Iecerint, Glork)

dramonic: 2

(bv310, FC Groningen)

Glork: 2

(Zodiark13)

Iecerint: 1

(KDub)

bv310: 1

(wolframnhart)

wolframnhart: 1

(Nautilus)

Chronopie: 1

(WorseExcuse)

Not Voting:

Antifinity
bill1148
Chronopie
DarkLightA
dramonic
JPSalazar
killa seven
MehPlusRawr
PranaDevil

Lynch:

11 votes.

Deadline:

May 2nd - 5:40 PM EST

[Iecerint]

^ Yeah, you're right.

@ Nautilus,

Final Fantasy wiki. Search "Ultros" to get my information.

[Nautilius]

Zodiark = town.
I'll probably do research on the relevant peoples mentioned.

[Iecerint]

Who on earth is Larxene? Wiki doesn't even know.

[Devotress]

Yah, when ultros is in the colliseum, he's outright friendly with the party isn't he? If the Ultros claim is truthfull, miller makes complete sense to me.

Who on earth is Larxene? Wiki doesn't even know.

She's a Nobody from Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. She's one of the principle antagonists in that game, she fights with small knives and lightning spells.

[Iecerint]

^ I am no mere miller. I am a DEATH MILLER. (Until scum flips; then this goes away).

Just bein clear.

[Devotress]

It should be worth noting that final fantasy isn't the only flavour going into this game, not even just rpg games. Mischief Makers is even mentioned in the worlds listed at the start of this game.

Setup Speculation? Already?

vote:Chronopie

Which part of his setup speculation bothered you? I think the whole elements system is something important for town to figure out as this game goes on. Was it just the part where he speculated at roles, or the whole thing?

[Devotress]

^ I am no mere miller. I am a DEATH MILLER. (Until scum flips; then this goes away).

Just bein clear.

Oh my mistake. Do death millers also reveal as scum on investigation, or just the death?

[Iecerint]

In the general case, I'm honestly not sure.

For me, I am mod-confirmed to check innocent to sane Cops both before and after my DM status goes away.

[Zodiark13]

Who on earth is Larxene? Wiki doesn't even know.

Larxene = Organisation XIII = Kingdom Hearts.

A necessary assumption if we are going by all of SE's works.

[inHimshallibe]

Zodiark = town.

:bigredx:

Not saying he isn't, but that post is not indicative of alignment. If you want my opinion, I'd say it was even slightly scummy.

[Zodiark13]

Zodiark = town.

Lolwut. How do you figure this?

[Zodiark13]

If you want my opinion, I'd say it was even slightly scummy.

Explain please.

[Nautilius]

Zodiark = town.

:bigredx:

Not saying he isn't, but that post is not indicative of alignment. If you want my opinion, I'd say it was even slightly scummy.

Meh, liked his tone.
I know he could have done all the flavor stuff regardless of alignment.

[Glork]

If you want my opinion, I'd say it was even slightly scummy.

Explain please.

I'll answer this on inHim's behalf.

You've decided to show off your FF knowledge and have done

approximately

exactly zero scumhunting.

[Zodiark13]

So it's scummy to not find anyone scummy?

I'm off to work and will be home later

[Iecerint]

So it's scummy to not find anyone scummy?

Is this meant to be a rhetorical question? Because the answer to your question is most nearly "yes."

[Glork]

Yes. We have had a night full of actions, and there have already been three full pages of discussion, including multiple non-random, non-arbitrary accusations thrown around. I find it hard to believe that you don't have an opinion on anybody.

Unvote
Vote: Zodiark

[FC Groningen]

In this case, I'd be willing to rely on other's information about Final Fantasy, because the only part I've ever played was FFX. Does anyone else agree that this "Ultros" guy might not be evil? I believe someone said that Ultros was an evil boss. Also a death miller claim also seems a relative easy way out and such a claim only works if claimed early.


About Dramonic, keep in mind that he also might have lied about either his role (name).

I also don't really get the votes on Prana by the way.

[Iecerint]

^ A good strategy is to read the wiki.

Also, play FFVI. Pretty playable.

[Devotress]

There's something with Zodiark's interaction with Nautilus that seemed strange to me.

@zodiark, what did you believe Nautilus' intention was behind that post?

So it's scummy to not find anyone scummy?

if you HAD to vote for someone, who would it be.



also,

unvote

vote zodiark

Since Glork can't get a bandwagon started with all those misses, someone get the poor guy some eyedrops.


@glork, was there any flavour to you being told you were blind, or was it just a basic "you've been made blind"

[Devotress]

if you HAD to vote for someone, who would it be.

I ment not counting your joke vote obviously.

[Zodiark13]

Right now, I'd probably keep my vote on Glork. His attacks on me seem OMGUS to me. To be perfectly honest, I don't have any immediate suspicions, although, it seems like Nautilus is trying to buddy me.

On the matter of Ultros, he starts out as a villain, more comic relief than anything, but he does get particularly antagonistic on the flight to the Floating Continent, attacking for no real reason I can recall. After, however, he's quite neutral. This matches Iecerints description of Death Miller, so, once again, if this claim is genuine, he is town. Assuming of course that source alignment carries over.

[Devotress]

Right now, I'd probably keep my vote on Glork. His attacks on me seem OMGUS to me. To be perfectly honest, I don't have any immediate suspicions, although, it seems like Nautilus is trying to buddy me.

Do you find it common for people to make very serious votes as OMGUS because of an obvious joke vote?

[bill1148]

First... do I know JP from elsewhere?

Second, where does it say "lightning bolt"? It says electrocuted. Which are two different things as far as I'm concerned. So I'm not about to go voting someone based on such flimsy reasoning.

It clearly says "struck by a bolt of lightning." And I fail to see what is "flimsy" about the reasoning, the only electric summon I can think of off the top of my head is Ramuh (though I'm sure there are a few others).

Very valid point.

Unvote, vote: Dramonic

Well, if the lock is stonecold.

vote pranadevil

*sheep votes*

I also don't particulary get the case on Dramonic, but thats mostly because I'm not very familiar with Final Fantasy (except part X). However, I do agree that "Something tells me flavour isn't just flavour in this game." caught my eye as well and at least gave me bad vibes. (thats how you guys call it on this site right?)

Not sure what's so hard to understand about it. The "story" clearly states that a bolt of lightning came down and struck xRECKONERx. dramonic mentions he is Ramuh. Even if, assuming that Prana failed to read the bolt of lightning part, he mentioned it as "flimsy" reasoning. I fail to see how it classifies as "flimsy" compared to voting for Kdub for a reason that is more "flimsy" than the reason mentioned on dramonic.

I would also like to point out this post:

"I have played with both. I know DLA and Iece have also played with ABR in games I modded. Off the top of my head that's all I can remember "

Seems to me that Dramonic is trying to frame DLA and Iece.

What do they call this...the "Composition Fallacy?" You failed to mention that dramonic mentions that he himself has played with xRECKONERx and Albert B. Rampage. Also, there are far too many players here (as far as I can tell) who have played with either xRECKONERx and Albert B. Rampage to draw a reasonable conclusion on who killed them.

Am I now? That's interesting, considering I'm not. Which means you're either really bad scum (you've been here about 6 years, I doubt that), or you're town and have made a right royal pigs ear of something.

So no, I'm not scum, and I don't even think you are, you're town with a role that's giving you false information of some kind.

Not entirely sure what you're hinting with "feeble cat" either, whether it's you or me. But if the thing that I am is a cat, I'm a dinosaur.

I believe they call this the "Appeal to Ridicule" fallacy.

It just feels unnatural to me that you answer that for others (the others just answered that question for themselves).

This is a better answer, probably what you should have said the first time.

Also, I'm going to refer to the flavour again (even though you don't like it) and say electrocuted is in theory logical with Ramuh, however the black tornado really isn't.

Eh...yes, technically. But can you name an electric/tornado oriented ability?

And/or Jesse and/or Barret.

Although the pic clearly represents the Biggs from Final Fantasy VII, Biggs/Wedge are together all the time in various FF's. On top of which, the pic may only be the Biggs from VII because it was easier to find (given that VII is the most popular). It would only be natural that Wedge is his partner.

FACT: your name is the same as a town in FF13.

Oh, and I know almost everything about the flavor, unless it's to do with FF3 or 11

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Yippe for you.

On the matter on dramonic, assmuing his claim is correct, then he is town. Ramuh has been helpful plotwise in two game. Two Final Fantasy games can't be wrong.

How about suggesting an electric power that is, under your definition, "evil?"

Ramuh,
Quetzalcoatl,
Ixion,
Adrammelech,
Odin(from FF13),
Lightning,
Larxene,

As far as I'm aware XIII's world is not in this game (as Pulse & Cocoon are not mentioned in the OP). So cross Odin off the list.

I find dramonic, Prana, and to a lesser extent, Zodiark the most suspicious. Ultimately, at this point, I'm going to have to

vote Prana.

Whereas in dramonic's case it may just be a bad coincidence that Ramuh = electrocution, Prana has already visibly and definitively shown some ignorance.