Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

[SIR CYANIDE]

If you think that you can put him on a leash so it benefits your wincon then by all means try it, but I'm very much against it.

Who do you think is doing this?

As in faction? Town, I think.

If you really are the SK with a normal wincon (which I will assume is true as a gambit would be insanely stupid), there is no reason to let you live. Trying to put you on a leash is a gamble at best. Better to pick the safe route and get rid of you.

[Ellibereth]

KONO ON A LEASH = GOOD IDEA.
I SUPPORT.

I WILL ALSO FOLLOW FATE LIKE A GOOD SHEEP FOR NOW.

UNVOTE, VOTE MEHPLUS

I NEVER GOT AROUND TO LOOKING AT THE WAGONS. MIGHT THINK ABOUT STARTING TO DO IT LATER.

[SIR CYANIDE]

Using Konawa's kills for Town is good strategy to me.

It is not. You must not be very smart.

[SIR CYANIDE]

KONO ON A LEASH = GOOD IDEA.
I SUPPORT.

^

[MehPlusRawr]

Keeping Konowa alive would be a bad idea for us. Can we please lynch him? :S

[Fate]

LOL FLAIL MORE MPR.

YES THE GOLDEN LEASH OF POWER! I TOLD YOU I HAD A KILL SPYREX!
MANY THANKS TO KONOWA!

VIG TEA PARTY TIME!

AND NO, WE CAN'T TALK IN OUR QUICKTOPIC DURING THE DAY, STOP PLAYING DUMB.

ANYWAY SINCE SCUM SOMETIMES HAVE A JOAT WITH A PROTECT OR FULL-ON MAFIA DOCTOR (ESPECIALLY SINCE GF WASN'T KILL-IMMUNE), I'LL LET YOU CHOOSE FROM THESE TARGETS KONOWA. YOU BETTER PUT YOUR BEST SCUMHUNTING CAP ON THOUGH, AND USE MPR'S FLIP TO THE FULLEST:

POTENTIAL TARGETS:
CHRONOPIE
UNSIGHT
PAPA ZITO (VOTING UNSIGHT INSTEAD OF MPR)

[dramonic]

Votecount 18: Very Hungry Hooker!

Konowa (4): Mehplusrawr, Unsight, Pomegranate, SIR CYANIDE
Fate (1): Chronopie
mehplusrawr (4): Fate, leafsnail, InflatablePie, Ellibereth
Chronopie (1): DTMaster
Unright (2): Papa Zito, Jag Johan

Not Voting (5): Maemuki, Shrinehme, SpyreX, Konowa, JacobSavage

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Maemuki prodded

Deadline is the 1st of may

[Pomegranate]

Ahh, but PZ its like this - the SK has no chance of winning if he doesn't play nice nice. Every day alive is a shot at it.

And, well, there's soo many that need to get killed.

Eh? I don't think that's how it works.

I agree with PZ here so much. I think that it's

IMPERATIVE

that we lynch him today, or tomorrow at the latest. I think that it's best to lynch him today- look at it this way: Lynch confirmed scum (Konowa) or possible scum (someone else). DUH moment here. I have a very bad feeling about making him our vig. Which has a bit to do with what I said earlier about Konowa-SK clearing up a lot for me, and making a lot of sense.

Konowa: investigation immune/kill immune/both/neither?

[Leafsnail]

Vote: MehPlusRawr

. I'd definately be behind his lynch for reasons stated yesterday, and he hasn't done anything useful since. And if Fate has role related reasons, all the better.

I think by "reasons" you mean OMGUS.

Also, come on, Fate, there's no way I can respond to that accusation.

Yeah, totally OMGUS. I am so amazing at OMGUS I can actually perform it

before

the other person votes me (and then immediately unvotes claiming it was a mistake).

I feel like such a hooker right now.....

That -would- be a cool role though.
*notes to self*

Roleblocker?

I'm not entirely sure about SK on a leash. Personally, I'd be inclined to do it on a "results" basis - we tell konowa exactly who to kill, if konowa kills anyone else we lynch him tomorrow. This means konowa's chance of winning decreases to zero if he kills the wrong person.

[Shrinehme]

Definitely don't hold him until endgame, but getting one or more of his kills onto a scummy player rather than obvtown/other will give us a nice edge and save us a lynch.

[Shrinehme]

Vote: MehPlusRawr

[SIR CYANIDE]

I'm not entirely sure about SK on a leash. Personally, I'd be inclined to do it on a "results" basis - we tell konowa exactly who to kill, if konowa kills anyone else we lynch him tomorrow. This means konowa's chance of winning decreases to zero if he kills the wrong person.

Konowa's chance of winning is effectively zero already. You cannot threaten him with things like 'if you don't kill [x] we lynch you asap next day'.

On an unrelated note, we must also consider the slight chance that Konowa is not the SK but falseclaimed. Can anyone think of a possible ploy?

[Unsight]

On an unrelated note, we must also consider the slight chance that Konowa is not the SK but falseclaimed. Can anyone think of a possible ploy?

Doesn't seem likely. If Jag is town then there's little doubt Konowa's claim is real. If Jag and Konowa are both scum then we'd get a two-for-one special for lynching Konowa. Seems like a really bizarre gamble for a mafia that just lost its godfather. We won't know for certain until Konowa is dead though.

[Unsight]

I'm fine with FATE holding the leash. He is one of the many active players I trust.

Vote: Unsight

My other alternative are MEHPLUSRAWR, Chronopie and Mae (if he still are in the game).

Unsight could tell us why he attacks FATE and SpyreX.

I did that in my ISO 14 / Post Subject 479. Parama's flip makes me even more certain Fate is scum because I don't see Fate as earnestly pushing a Parama wagon ever--that is I think Fate pushed the Blue wagon a hell of a lot harder than the Parama wagon. Talking a bit about someone being scummy, voting them, jumping onto the next wagon that comes along, and saying "I'll get to you later" isn't scum hunting, it's distancing. I also don't like the fact that Konowa wants Fate to decide his kills. Feels like he deliberately picked the scummiest person in order to effectively give the scum two kills. I wouldn't be surprised if every Konowa bullet between now and when he's lynched hits town.

SpyreX has been dumb since his nonsense about Konowa being a vig in Post Subject 866. Not necessarily scummy, just dumb.

[SpyreX]

FATE I IMPLORE YOU GUIDE THINE SK.

P.S. Pom just shot up the scum charts so thats cool.

[Fate]

Yes, Yes Pom did.

I was debating the third slot in my hit list for Pom/Papa Zito as "scum who want to lynch the SK really really badly."

PZ caved and went and voted (not MPR but Unsight which rang bells), while Pom is still pushing the Konowa lynch.

@Unsight I'm done talking to you. You're alone in thinking I'm the scummiest person obviously. I pushed Parama until Blue went and did something stupid "I'm convinced of your innocence Parama." So I thought Blue was scum wanting to look good on the other side, so I figured, if Blue flips scum Parama is town, if Blue is town we can go back to Parama.

But here I am finding myself talking to dead people walking. If you got a claim that should save you from being shot tonight (by Konowa) you might want to come out with it.

[SpyreX]

People 4 Lynchin: MPR, Chrono, Shrine, (analysis goes here on Parama apologests / hoppers)

People 4 Eatin: Unight, Pom, Pie

[Pomegranate]

But here I am finding myself talking to dead people walking. If you got a claim that should save you from being shot tonight (by Konowa) you might want to come out with it.

Who is this directed at?

[Fate]

Directed at Unsight. Pom you better start talking or else you get to take Papa's place on death row.

We all know Konowa is SK, you've said your piece about why we should lynch him.

Now, since that isn't going to happen, who do you propose we lynch and why?

[DTMaster]

@Chrono
935: I donno, generally scummy play = the guy is scummy.

@Jacob/Sir
936/7: SK ----- MILLLLAAAR? Whoa. But below PZ brought up this is a normal game. I doubt we have a SK Millrawr.

@PZ
938: Chained beast gets put down before he bites the hand of the master (s). Any early misbehaviours = instant lynch. Besides I'd rather have 2 town directed kills to limit the scum targets.

@Konawa
940: AND THAT MEANS JACOB IS CLEARED. WOOOT WOOOT.

@IP
962: See PZ 938. The Key is to not let SK into lylo.

@Sir
Ok. Read IP. Read PZ. If Konawa misbehaves we do this tomorrow. You hear?

986: Fake ploy means Jacob is lying and you imply Jacob/Kona team. Eggs are in a basket. It also implies that Jacob/Kona got lucky when Konda claimed SK when it's perfectly possible a vig killed Par.

Lastly, Kona admitted to: playing dumb to try and discredit Jacob if he was a tracker. Lulzy fake ploy?

Train wreck galore. But your townieness still stands due to Day 1. :p

@Unsight
987: Unless Dram decided to add even more scum I believe 3-4 is the average number? All the scum in one basket = lulz.

@Pomme
982: Ok now you are going off topic. Kona claimed SK

I'm not opposed to Mew. He's displaying the same symptoms as PZ/IP/Chrono/Pom in their anti-SKness.

Also I can't reread since I have exams comming up. :< SO I"M SORRY MY DTMANALYSIS WILL BE SLIGHTLY HINDERED DUE TO THE LACK OF TIME.

I will

Unvote

Vote: MewPlusPOwer

with my SEAL OF APPROVAL

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: MPR

DTM <3

Fate <3

Everyone else: </3

[Ellibereth]

Unvote, Vote: MPR

DTM <3

Fate <3

Everyone else: </3

[SpyreX]

There is a wagon analysis due before you get your <3 back mr.

[DTMaster]

ELI: THE QUARTET WILL RISE AGAIN.

[InflatablePie]

People 4 Eatin: Unight, Pom, Pie

Obviously, I don't particularly enjoy being on this list, if it's what I think it is. May I ask why? And could you give me an answer that isn't worded oddly/vaguely this time?


Anyways, MPR is at L-2. And by the way, if (when?) MPR flips scum, Shrine is more likely town, as MPR was hard on him D1 and I don't think MPR would be capable of a bus. IIRC he was on Leaf as well, then unvoted him because that vote was "and accident". So I'm not sure if Leaf would be more town or scum depending on MPR's flip.

Content time!

Currently, my views on the playerlist so far. Subject to change, of course:

Town: Pie, Jacob, Fate, DT, Elli, Papa Zito
Unknown: Shrine, Leafsnail, Unsight, CYANIDE, Pom, Jag, SpyreX
Scum: MehPlusRawr, Maemuki, Chronopie
SK: Konowa

For the Unknown section, it goes from most-likely-town to most-likely-scum, if I had to pick everyone's aligment now.

Haven't liked those three for a while. Maemuki's general attitude/fluffy posts don't sit well with me.

Chrono's Cyanide vote seems odd and then there's

this post

. Asking a cop to scan Fate or PARAMA. He also says he finds Parama town in a later post.

Spyre, I have no idea. I didn't get good vibes yesterday, plus I didn't like SV's wagoning-vote D1 (Spyre replaced SV). Not to mention, posts 557 and 558.

Elli's acted similar in a game that I just finished up with him. For now, he's town. Fate and DT are pure gut reads/earlier reads, but I may have to look into them more.

I think PZ is town only because he replaced Fugitive, who I have a strong belief that he wouldn't replace out as scum. I know him from a separate site and he's expressed many times that he would enjoy playing as scum, since he never seems to get said role. May not be the best reasoning, but it's all I got.