Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

[SpyreX]

YES THAT IS 100 PERCENT WIFOM JESUS H

Sorry I'll just continue to post by smashing rocks together and various grunts so that Fate and I can communicate on our much, much lower level.

[Unsight]

Save it for your scum chat.

Also, vote konowa please.

[SpyreX]

Note this is coming from a tech replacement that managed to not say anything about Blue OR Panama.

[SpyreX]

Its not like the situation is going anywhere.

You sure seem way overeager to lynch that SK.

Why is that?

[Unsight]

Scummy people are asking scummy questions about obvious things.

[SpyreX]

Yes, because as scum I'd totally be all for stopping the lynch on an SK.

Whereas clamoring for votes right off the bat without knowing exactly whats going on is truly the enlightened path.

Especially, as it sits, pushing this lynch through as fast as possible in almost every available scenario is profitable for the scum.

[Fate]

*GRUNT*

------->UNSIGHT




HU HU HU HU

PIC WORK HAO?

[Fate]

VOTE: UNSIGHT

HEY U. SPYREX MAKE GEWD POINT.

COMMENT ON BLUE V. PARAMAZ, SHRINE, AND OTHER THINGS OF INTEREST.

ELSE U WILL BE UNREAD AND EASY MISLYNCH FODDER/SCUM ENDGAME.

[Unsight]

Yes, because as scum I'd totally be all for stopping the lynch on an SK.

Whereas clamoring for votes right off the bat without knowing exactly whats going on is truly the enlightened path.

Especially, as it sits, pushing this lynch through as fast as possible in almost every available scenario is profitable for the scum.

WIFOM.

Figure it out. It's a two piece jigsaw puzzle.

Save your attack me/defend obv-scum Fate for tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

ITS ALL WIFOM WE ARE WIFOM WIFOM IS WIFOM

Except for the fact it isn't. WIFOM is overused and overvalued by a wide margin but that aside it implies equal probabilities (or the assumation of equal probabilities). In the normal scenarios pushing this lynch this fast directly profits the scum. Directly. Doubly so because its sooo easy to justify following the PR!

Whereas at least figuring out the pieces profits the town. Even if its the right lynch knowing what is going on is a direct gain.

So, if the idea is I'm scum because I'm doing something that is directly not profitable for my faction go for it. Say it clear.

Then you can keep chanting WIFOM to a rope.

At least I'm scumbuddies with Fate now. Thats sweeeet.

[Unsight]

ITS ALL WIFOM WE ARE WIFOM WIFOM IS WIFOM

Except for the fact it isn't. WIFOM is overused and overvalued by a wide margin but that aside it implies equal probabilities (or the assumation of equal probabilities). In the normal scenarios pushing this lynch this fast directly profits the scum. Directly. Doubly so because its sooo easy to justify following the PR!

"I wouldn't do X if I was scum" = WIFOM

"I can't see Fate doing X to a Godfather" = WIFOM

Whereas at least figuring out the pieces profits the town. Even if its the right lynch knowing what is going on is a direct gain.

Pieces are already there to figure it out. Beyond that...

Scum benefit from knowing what kind of PR Jacob is.

Town benefit from having the SK dead and figuring out if Jacob is a town PR or scum PR, doesn't matter what kind of PR.

[SpyreX]

Lord almighty.

This brick wall can stay there and be a brick wall.

And if you don't see a difference in town play based on what Jacob says he is welp can't help.

And missing that the scum this early after a kill also benefit greatly from an SK dead choo choo.

And missing the key point about your WIFOM garbage: that scum have every reason to see the lynch move forward as fast as possible and NOT jumping on the PR humping machine is painting a target is also awesome.

In fact, it is tech.

[NavyCherub]

Come home to see I'm dead...grumble grumble.

[Chronopie]

An SK's wincon is everyone else dead. incl. mafia.

So both town and mafia would want an SK dead. Although it might be beneficial to have another few SK kills, provided they hit Mafia. Then we lynch the SK ftw.

(Assuming SK bc I doubt that a vig would eat someone, and crazy fits cannibalism)

[Unsight]

And if you don't see a difference in town play based on what Jacob says he is welp can't help.

Your difference in town play is as imaginary as Fate's scum hunting.

And missing the key point about your WIFOM garbage: that scum have every reason to see the lynch move forward as fast as possible and NOT jumping on the PR humping machine is painting a target is also awesome.

Longer days exist to gain more information to decide the lynch and make sure it's a good lynch. Today's lynch is already decided and all information we have today plus more will be around tomorrow.

Also, it's funny to hear someone talk about rushing the day who was very recently posting stuff like:

GOD LET IT END
LET US FREE

OHH NOES NOW YOU TOO ARE LIKE ME AND THUS

Yea, this. Pick a target. Make it dead. Pray that makes things happen.

To. A. Large. Degree. I. Do. Not. Care. Who. Dies. Today. You. Are. Only. My. Choice. By. A. Margin.

Please, lord, please hammer / kill / WHATEVER someone.

[SpyreX]

Yes, because post 669 on Day 1: Cataclysmic fail is directly equal to "lets have everyone weigh in before we lynch, especially the person with the information"

Keep on keepin on!

AND NO THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE TO THE TOWN IF HE IS AN SK COP WHO HAS KILLED THE SK OR A TRACKER WHO IN FACT IS STILL DIRECTLY USEFUL OR A ROLECOP OR GOD KNOWS WHAT

My lord.

And yes, discussion is directly and 100% only a function of whats going on during this specific day and in no way shape or form could forcing opinions and playing the game NOW have a direct effect on the upcoming days. We are, in fact, playing amnesia mafia and the events precluding this one are already useless (probably all the WIFOM in the water).

I mean you just said information (note: not 30+ pages of garbage) is useless because it'll be around tomorrow (ignoring the pair of kills we saw last night).

FFFFFFF

[Unsight]

AND NO THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE TO THE TOWN IF HE IS AN SK COP WHO HAS KILLED THE SK

No claim necessary in this scenario. 0% likelihood of this.

OR A TRACKER WHO IN FACT IS STILL DIRECTLY USEFUL OR A ROLECOP OR GOD KNOWS WHAT

Exact details of how his role works is only useful to the scum. Since he's already out'd himself as a PR, he will tell us his investigation results after every night for as long as he lives.

In the meantime, forcing the scum to play against a mystery PR is better for the town than letting them know all the details of the PR.

[Fate]

So my vote on Parama was epic distancing turned bad when people started piling on him, and NOT scumhunting? God it must suck to be in a tunnel.

WHERE'S YOUR SCUMHUNTING UNSIGHT? DO YOU HAVE ANY SUSPECTS BESIDES LOLFOLLOW THE PR?

Spyrex I don't care what your read is anymore. Unsight doesn't get the "so scummy's he's town" fallacy pass.

I said it before, stop arguing with idiots/scum.

HALF THE GAME HASN'T EVEN CHECKED IN TO SAY HI.

HI REST OF GAME! HOW ARE YOU? HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE SCUM AND BE ABLE TO GET A FREE SLIDE TODAY?

[Shrinehme]

I was under the impression that JacobSavage was Day Rolecop because of his interaction with the Blue wagon Day 1.

Interested in hearing claim.

BLUE V. PARAMAZ

I didn't suspect Parama in the slightest. Caught my attention, but I thought his interactions with you/my wagon were

weird

at best.

Depending on JacobSavage's claim I'd go with either ChronoPie or Konawa direction today.

[Fate]

I would also like to thank Fate for his bad play.

Oh yeah I forgot to ask, wdf iz zis?

I don't like how I have the stigma as "the sole reason Blue is dead." I clearly wanted Parama dead over Blue earlier on, but both scum (which may or may not include Elliebereth and her terribad read) made it near impossible for Parama to gain momentum over Blue. And even THEN I wanted Shrine over Blue at least, and that never took hold.

(OH WAIT PARAMA FINALLY VOTED SHRINE AFTER I UNVOTED. LOLDISTANCING?)

[Fate]

WAIT SHRINE WANTS CHRONO DEAD?
MAYBE I DO LIKE HIM.

DAY ROLECOP HUH? HMMM HE WAS THE ONLY NONSCUM DECLARING BLUE AS COMPLETELY TOWN (PARAMA WAS SAYING IT AS WELL) I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE.

JACOB. YOU.
JUST TELL US IF YOU KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY WHETHER KONOWA IS A SERIAL KILLER OR NOT. EVEN THEN, I WOULD LIKE KONOWA TO CLAIM AND THEN WE CAN ALL DECIDE WHO KONOWA WILL SHOOT AT NIGHT UNTIL HE BECOMES USELESS. FAILURE TO COMPLY=LYNCHINZ

[InflatablePie]

HI REST OF GAME! HOW ARE YOU?

good, you?

I was under the impression that JacobSavage was Day Rolecop because of his interaction with the Blue wagon Day 1.

I'm confused. Explain?

[InflatablePie]

wait, forgot the Day part of "Day Rolecop" durrrr

ignore my stupidity

[Unsight]

WHERE'S YOUR SCUMHUNTING UNSIGHT? DO YOU HAVE ANY SUSPECTS BESIDES LOLFOLLOW THE PR?

You - because you're hilariously obv-scum.

Maemuki's lack of good content plus jump on the Blue bandwagon with no good explanation is as scummy now as it was yesterday.

Still trying to figure out if Elli's posting stuff without explanation is a scumtell or just how she plays. Anything that confuses or misleads the town is anti-town, but not necessarily scummy.

The rest is one big meh. I'll look at them when their names stop changing every 4 days.

[InflatablePie]

Placeholder vote until this Konowa thing is straightened out:

Vote: MehPlusRawr

Was on Cyanide, Blue, and switched to Shrine as it started to gain (iirc) - some of the major BWs from what I recall. PLUS he defended Parama a bit saying he looked town. Among other stuff I said yesterday.