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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:30 pm

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I have achieved victory at the trial . . . but it has not been enough . . .


Final Vote Count -- D6

AlmasterGM (3) -- Fate, RedCoyote, Porkens

Not Voting (1) -- AlmasterGM


AlmasterGM --
JoAT
-- Henry Cameron -- Lynched Day 6

Fate --
Watcher
-- Mike Donnigan -- Endgamed

RedCoyote --
Townie
-- Gail Wynand -- Endgamed


Porkens --
Traitor
-- Catherine Halsey -- Survived


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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:33 pm

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Ellsworth Toohey -- d3x

You are a great and seemingly harmless social influencer (investigation immune Godfather). Also in your party is Debonair Danny DiPietro, a Roleblocker. Each night your party may choose to attempt to kill someone. You may be able to find a willing supprter who will join your ranks when you go to kill them. Your party may communicate and submit your night choices here each night. Your party achieves victory when the number of living socialists equals or outnumbers the number of living free market lovers.

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The Dean -- Debonair Danny DiPietro

You are a killer of dreams (Roleblocker). Also in your party is d3x, an investigation immune Godfather. Each night you may choose to attempt to block another player from performing any night actions that they may have. Each night your party may choose to attempt to kill someone. You may be able to find a willing supprter who will join your ranks when you go to kill them. Your party may communicate and submit night choices here each night. Your party achieves victory when the number of living socialists equals or outnumbers the number of living free market lovers.

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Catherine Halsey -- Porkens

You are one who has been gently swayed from the ranks of those who love the free market (Traitor). You know of the socialist party members: Debonair Danny DiPietro and d3x. They may come to your house to kill you one night, at which point you will convince them of your shared views and be inducted as a full member. Your party achieves victory when the number of living socialists equals or outnumbers the number of living free market lovers.

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Henry Cameron -- AlmasterGM

You are an aged and successful contributor to the free market economy (Jack of All Trades). Each night you may choose to utilize one of your various talents (create a Bullet Proof Vest {lasts until shot}, Investigation {cop}, Protection {doc}, Roleblock, Commute {1-Shot NK immune}) by PMing me with your choice.
EXAMPLE:
Investigate HowardRoark
. You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Stephen Mallory -- cruelty

You are a true believer in the free market who is willing to make a small stand against the evil that threatens it (1-Shot Vigilante). On any one night of your choosing you may attempt to kill another player by PMing me with your choice. You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Mike Donnigan -- Fate

You are an appreciator of the fine things the the free market has enabled to be created (Watcher). Each night you may choose to attempt to observe another player by PMing me with your choice. You will see everyone (if anyone) that visits them, but niether the purpose(s) nor the result(s). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Peter Keating -- horrordude0215


You are a person who has sold his soul to achieve success in this free market (Miller). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Gail Wynand -- RedCoyote

You are a public figure who has had great success in the free market (Townie). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Guy Francon -- Budja

You are someone who has helped others achieve success in the free market along with your own -- despite your lack of any real talents (Townie). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Alvah Scarret -- Kthxbye

You are someone who has enjoyed life in a successful free market (Townie). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Mrs. Keating -- SpyreX

You are not a major contributor but a reaper of the benefits of a free market (Townie). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.

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Dominique Francon -- Zang

You are a believer in the free market who is trapped in a changing society (Townie). You win when all threats to your free market economy are gone.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:34 pm

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Night 1

Debonair Danny DiPietro
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RedCoyote
(no effect)
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kills
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(success)
Fate
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Kthxbye
(no visitors)
AlmasterGM
investigates
Debonair Danny DiPietro
(guilty)

Night 2

d3x
kills
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(recruit)
Fate
watches
AlmasterGM
(no visitors)
AlmasterGM
creates BPV (success)

Night 3

Porkens
kills
Budja
(success)
Fate
watches
AlmasterGM
(no visitors)
AlmasterGM
protects
d3x
(no effect)
crulety
kills
Zang
(success)

Night 4

d3x
kills
cruelty
(success)
Fate
watches
Porkens
(no visitors)

Night 5

Fate
watches
Porkens
(no visitors)
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:36 pm

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Day 1

Nothing but the BIGGEST thanks to DeathSauce for replacing into a horrible situation. (
pun intended
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One scum plus traitor on lynch. Other scum on the alternate wagon.
*DeathSauce is graylisted for posting after lynch.

Night 1

Shocking to see AlmasterGM use the investigation; I expected the BPV. Luckily (for him) the socialists talked about it, but didn't kill or roleblock him.
Scum have already weakly identified the traitor.

Day 2

AlmasterGM comes out with his investigation results and Debonair Danny DiPietro is quickly lynched.
Other scum and traitor on lynch.
*Debonair Danny DiPietro is graylisted for posting in the QT after lynch.

Night 2

AlmasterGM dons his BPV . . . probably a good choice.
Fate watches AlmasterGM.
d3x did not attempt to kill AlmasterGM; it is a wise choice, but for reasons other than anticipated.
Porkens is recruited.

Day 3

d3x did a nice job of attacking Kthxbye for rolefishing, but stays off the wagon well.
Porkens did a nice job of distancing from d3x.
Traitor on lynch and other scum on 1 of 2 solo wagons.
*Kthxbye is graylisted for posting after lynch.

Night 3

AlmasterGM chooses to protect d3x . . .
cruelty finally uses his 1-Shot Vigilante ability; he hits town, but one that the scum are seeing as an easier mislynch. Good shot, IMHO.
Although torn, Fate continues to watch AlmasterGM . . . I thought early in the night phase that this might result in another caught scum.
d3x points out that Budja is probably the most difficult mislynch after AlmasterGM; Porkens agrees . . . and so he dies. I think this is the correct play.

Day 4

The fact that it might be (
it is
) MyLo is brought up. Mass claim is brought up. Neither are thoroughly discussed. Another short day.
AlmasterGM's, "Don't protect me." doesn't bring as much discussion as I thought it might.
Traitor on No Lynch and other scum not voting.

Night 4

Fate watches Porkens.
d3x kills cruelty.
*d3x is graylisted for quoting his role PM.

Day 5

Mass claim occurs. I've been interested in seeing how this will play out.
d3x claims with a name . . . and is called on it.
AlmasterGM's full claim is questioned (for the "I have" then "don't have a name" and actions) . . . this could be interesting tomorrow.
Porkens busses timely.
*RedCoyote is graylisted for quoting his role PM.

Night 5

Porkens has made the correct choice: Fate . . . the last threat to discovering him via night actions . . . but then changes to a no kill, an interesting risk/reward gambit.
AlmasterGM chooses the wrong person to roleblock in RedCoyote . . . a mute point or misleading?
Fate's choice of Porkens doesn't matter at this point.

Day 6

MyLo again . . . and Porkens comes out aggressively. Fate also throws a vote. (No concern for situation?)
Game over.


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*I graylisted players instead of blacklisting or modkilling in order to not ruin the game and because y'all have been great!!
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:44 pm

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Please let me know if you see any errors in the information above . . . I was still in the process of preparing it when I saw the game had ended.

I was noting my thoughts (irregularly) throughout the game. I hope they provide some insight into what I was seeing.

Please discuss the game (setup, flavor, play, etc.) now. It is up to the winners to reveal or conceal the QT.

I can't say it enough . . . thank you for making this game enjoyable!!!

(Here is the Wiki page for this game.)
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:47 pm

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HUZZAH!!! Porkens for MVP all the way! I must admit I was so freaking confused about the NK. I didn't see that Porkens had switched to NK at the last minute. I was expecting RC to come out with a last minute Doc save or a successful block by AGM.

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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:52 pm

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Well played scum. Doubly so Traitorous dog Porkens.

I thought it was AGM or Fate. (Of course part of that is I assumed a Watch would see someone target themselves but) - and that JOAT and the way it went down made me think it was AGM.

So, count me in team bad decisions!

P.S. WHY did you jerks kill me n1?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:09 pm

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WAIT WAHT!
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:10 pm

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Sorry Spyrex, it was between you and Kthx to watch N1
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:33 pm

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Nokilling N5 wasn't a gambit. If he had killed me agm wouldve kill cleared RC and correctly voted Porkens. Also if I had watched RC the final night to role confirm AGM, RC might have been able to piece it together as it would have had to be porkens from his PoV. All in all, gg scum.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:08 am

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Well, good game scum.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:20 am

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I'd have lynched AGM too :P. Well played Porkens.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:38 am

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Oh thank goodness, I know that all may have looked planned, but, Jesus, I was just trying to recover from my epic screw-up.

I didn't tell my partner that I didn't have a name, even though I thought I had. So dx3 actually had no clue WTF I was doing when I claimed no name (or maybe you did? Was that like a reverse bus?).

It worked out, everyone seemed to think I was town after that, but I think if that hadn't happened, and we'd actually planned to claim no-names the night before, we could have gotten a misslynch that day.

At any rate, it was a fun game!

Oh, and...
RedCoyote wrote:Do you believe Almaster is a JOAT with a BP vest who hasn't been shot despite two nights with no kills or do you believe he's scum?
I lol'd.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:37 am

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SpyreX wrote:P.S. WHY did you jerks kill me n1?
Because the gods of irony dictated it to be so.

It turns out I was rather prescient in regards to claims with d3x getting lynched due to the scum team's lack of knowledge; I figured out the jig after my death but obviously I couldn't communicate that to my partner.
Me in a PM to the Mod wrote:Sure, right now I'm thinking we were all assigned flavor to our roles but not revealed it. So a claim of roleblocker would've been valid and consistent with everyone else (though still lynched since it's typically a scum role); while a claim of Dominique Francon - prostitute would have claimed flavor that no one else had.
When I went into the QT the last night and saw Porkens was submitting a kill I basically wrote the game off because I really didn't like the options there. Luckily Porkens changed his mind, no killed and let the town end itself.

~~~

Good game, average modding (when half the players in the game end up on your "graylist" maybe you need to re-think your ruleset), wish I had gotten to play more of it.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:24 am

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Yeah, that nightkill was a major brainfart.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:01 am

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God damn it. I should have known something was up because of the lack of NK that one night. Ah well. I still probably wouldn't have voted Porkens (even though I thought he repeatedly played anti-town).

Well played, mafia.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:45 pm

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SpyreX (456) wrote:I assumed a Watch would see someone target themselves
A watcher sees other players who visit the target. If you can point me to an example where Fate watching AlmasterGM would have received the result of "AlmasterGM" I'd be interested in knowing why the moderator interpreted the role that way. (Perhaps a MD topic already exists?)

Fate (459) wrote:Nokilling N5 wasn't a gambit.
I hadn't thought through the situation . . . that was all jotted down when I had a chance throughout the game. Porkens made the best choice.

Debonair Danny DiPietro (463) wrote:It turns out I was rather prescient in regards to claims with d3x getting lynched due to the scum team's lack of knowledge
It was a lack of knowledge for all players. I was very interested in how a mass claim (or even individual claims) would turn out. Knowing that some of y'all were actually fans of (or at least knowledgeable about) the book, I figured that someone would try to put a name to their role.
Debonair Danny DiPietro (463) wrote:average modding (when half the players in the game end up on your "graylist" maybe you need to re-think your ruleset)
The rules were an integral part of reducing the breakability of the game. The "No BaH post" rule is not unheard of; the "No quoting PMs" is very standard.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:53 pm

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A watcher sees other players who visit the target. If you can point me to an example where Fate watching AlmasterGM would have received the result of "AlmasterGM" I'd be interested in knowing why the moderator interpreted the role that way. (Perhaps a MD topic already exists?)
Does it say "other players" or "players" - it would be dependent on the PM.

I'm used to mine (swiped from PYP):
My Watcher PM wrote:Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will see all players who targeted that player that night.
That would definitely show AGM target AGM.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:49 pm

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Wouldn't it show me targeting myself when I created the bullet proof vest?

Also, I thought the modding was excellent. Thanks very much to HR.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:47 pm

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The way the watcher is worded there, I could see it being ambiguous, depending on what "visit" means to the writer/reader.

That would be a good MD question: "Do you think watchers should be able to see people who target themselves?"

I don't know what "being on the greylist" means, but I'm glad there were no modkills. At no point did I see what was quoted. In general I thought the modding was well above average (timeliness, prompt nights/days).
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:28 pm

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I tried. Pretty hopeless really. Let this be a lesson: All Millers claim first post!
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:30 pm

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Sorry, I never saw the rules about posting after lynch, missed it completely
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:39 pm

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i'm just glad to have finally got the chance to nk someone after months of playing this game.

ps: rc you gotta end this vendetta you got against me, i aint done no crimes.

pps: sorry zang. you still my boy.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:24 pm

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Ugh. This game will not make it on my greatest hits reel. I think I was wrong about just about everything except for Budja.

I would say, as always, if you're town, please, please, please do not vote yourself, and if you're scum you should only do it under limited circumstances.

What a shame that Porkens switched his night action!

I have no vendetta against you, cruelty. I knew there was scum between you, Fate, and Porkens, and my reads just turned out to be off.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:56 am

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cruelty wrote:i'm just glad to have finally got the chance to nk someone after months of playing this game.

ps: rc you gotta end this vendetta you got against me, i aint done no crimes.

pps: sorry zang. you still my boy.
:P I'm just glad I got that far, I never made it past day two until this game.
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