Open 213 -- Mini Love (Over)

[easjo682]

the thing is now scum knowing who the lovers are if one pair of them gets lynched then the doctor protects one from the other pair, the scum will just target a random player hoping to get either the doctor or the other lover, therefore making the protection of them pointless.
Also with this lynching lovers we risk a large sum of townies for one definite scum hit, I don't think this is a good trade in.

[Chronopie]

Just repeating myself, for the benefit of everyone:

D1: We lynch Lovers (T/T pair) as scum will know which pair is the T/S pair. [-2]
N1: Random town death [-3]

D2: We Lynch Lovers (T/S pair) on policy. No new leads, as its policy, policy, and more policy. [-4 T, -1 S]
N2: Random town death. [-5 T, -1S]

D3: No leads from D2. and we have a 4:2 T/S split, instead of a 9:3 split.

What makes you so sure that scum wouldn't hit lovers anyways in the night without claiming? It is always a possibility especially with 2 target possibilities.

Can't be sure that they won't hit the unprotected, unclaimed partner. This is just a worst case scenario. We could be lucky and hit the T/S pair today. Although we have to remember that the scum will be trying to steer us to the T/T combo.

The wcs will see D3 with a 4:2 split i.e mylo. But what's done is done.

@All: So who are we going to lynch? Myself, Yankee, or a random?

[Yankee]

I think we need to hear more from other players before we decide who to lynch. We have a good bit of time to decide, and these inactives are not helping the situation.

[TheLoneWolf]

Sorry was away this week-end, will have something soon.

[Looker]

Democracy didn't work, so let's try this the Republican way. I elect DoItRiley to decide how we're going to do this. Who should we lynch, Riley?

[CJMiller]

Democracy didn't work, so let's try this the Republican way. I elect DoItRiley to decide how we're going to do this. Who should we lynch, Riley?

And then I laughed until I turned purple.

[DarkLightA]

Guys, don't lynch anyone claiming pairs. We now have the advantage of knowing who the treacherous lover pair is if the town pair dies.

Thanks Chronopie =)

@Looker, I just don't get a read. sorry.

[XScorpion]

^^ So...what was wrong with just waiting for the town pair to die, then having the town lover of the other pair claim afterward?

[Nikanor]

Unvote. Vote: TheLoneWolf.

I think that a lurker lynch today is better than any other lynch.
I'm still opposed to lynching any lovers.

[Nikanor]

I think that a lurker lynch today is better than any other lynch.

This should read as: I don't think any of the active players are lynchworthy right now.

[Yankee]

I believe we should lynch one pair of claimed lovers today, otherwise like XScorpion said, it was pointless to claim. I think that is the first thing me and XScorpion have agreed on thusfar....

[Nikanor]

You realize that it'll be pretty much impossible to lynch the scum lover today, right? The scum lover probably isn't even claimed. How do you propose we decide which lovers to lynch, given that both claimed lovers are town?

[Robocopter87]

I think that a lurker lynch today is better than any other lynch.

Am I a lurker? Cuz ive been busy and I try.

But I agree with this. Seriously, wouldnt it be a smarter move to lynch a lurker in this situation? we are deciding wether to lynch the claimed lover or not. But the most likely case is that the two mafia goons that are here are just lurking. So if we pick off a lurker wouldn't we have a higher chance of

not

killing off the town?

[Nikanor]

I have a slight town read on you, Robo.

But I agree with this. Seriously, wouldnt it be a smarter move to lynch a lurker in this situation? we are deciding wether to lynch the claimed lover or not. But the most likely case is that the two mafia goons that are here are just lurking. So if we pick off a lurker wouldn't we have a higher chance of not killing off the town?

You should provide your own opinions instead of asking questions. What do

you

think the answer to that question is?

[Robocopter87]

I really don't know what to think. Its sorta like being a in a Newbie game and votting for a no-lynch. All statistics say "GOOD" but Expiremental probability says "BAD". I don't know wether we should lynch lovers or not lynch lovers or lynch lurkers or what. So I ask questions to gain information to come to a decision so I can stand by it. But I really don't stand by anything yet.

[Nikanor]

Well, do you think the active people are being more town-like or more scum-like?

[Robocopter87]

Town like.

[DoItRiley]

Anyway, please stop being so aggressive. I very greatly doubt your ability to catch all the scum by yourself, if you are indeed town. Stop being so abrasive, or I

will

do everything in my power to see you lynched.

Don't be ridiculous. There has been no use of ad hom on my part and playing aggressively, last time I checked, has not been a lynchable offense.

they don't need to claim, in fact it seems foolish to claim. and Yankee seeing as you did claim lover and you want us to lynch the lovers I'm going to vote for you never mind that I think its a false claim

Okay explain your path of reasoning here because this is a load of convoluted nonsense. Why do you think it's a false claim?

Multis much? Who's your main?

Yeah. Right. Like I'm going to tell you that. I will say my old account is going defunct.

NO! WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ANY LOVERS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knock off telling people who "we" are and who "we" aren't voting for. Last time I checked I have no idea whether you're a part of my "we" or not. So cut it out because at this point I honestly doubt you telling people who "we" are not voting for is going to sway anybody's opinion unless you calm down and start playing rationally.

Start by getting your numbers right.

I decided I wasnt going to waste more of my time explaining over again why this plan is worth the risk because you will just ignore me and complain again, but albeit if someone else would like for me to explain it (minus easjo) then I would be happy to.

We have more than every right to be pissed off for your taking this decision on your back for the town. You're going to have to take responsibility for your actions and honestly if this is your response to criticism then clearly you can't even think of a good reason for why you did it.

Democracy didn't work, so let's try this the Republican way. I elect DoItRiley to decide how we're going to do this. Who should we lynch, Riley?

Well here's how I see it at this point. The most likely to be treacherous scum is either Yankee's lover (because I don't believe scum would just come right out and risk themselves so quickly on D1, especially after players like DLA showed inclinations to wanting to lynch the lovers) or Chronopie (attempting to look more town-like and I doubt that if the other lover was scum they'd just sit back and let their town lover take the lead). So at this point I'd be inclined to lynch Chronopie based on gut, which means absolutely nothing in this game so I have to take more time.

At the moment, based on the information presented, I'd be inclined to lynch easjo because they make absolutely NO sense in anything they're talking about and if we're not lynching one of the claimed lovers I'd want to lynch the liability.

[Yankee]

for once I actually agree with DoItRiley (gonna call him DIR from now on). Easjo is one of the most suspicous people in my book (her and XScorpion), but Easjo's reasoning for thinking my claim is false is ridiculous and looks like an attempt just to get me lynched. Since this happened before Chronopie claimed, I am thinking that if we lynch Easjo today and he flips goon then the Treach lover pair would Chronopie's. I am not sure yet if that would be the right move over just lynching one of the lover pairs or not thought. I say this because it could work in reverse and we can lynching Chronopie's lover group today and if one flips treach we can lynch Easjo or Xscorpion tomorrow.

[Yankee]

Also @DIR - Sure, i guess you have a right to be pissed off at me for that, and I do take responsibility, but the way XScorpion was reacting, still trying to get us to abandon the plan after it was in the works just does not sit well with me.

[DoItRiley]

easjo's reasoning behind thinking your claim is false is ridiculous. It could've been an attempt to squash your lover pair before the other pair had to claim. That would make sense if they were a goon and Chronopie's lover pair holds the treacherous lover.

[easjo682]

Guys, don't lynch anyone claiming pairs.

This is what situation I was talking about!

[DoItRiley]

This is what situation I was talking about!

easjo...WHAT are you talking about. You're all over the place.

[Yankee]

What DoItRiley said......

You seem to be making less and less sense as time goes on.

[Chronopie]

Ofc we still don't know which lover pair contains the Scum. Which is half the reason I was against this plan in the first place (the other being I'm a lover )

Easjo isn't making alot of sense, so I'm semi-inclined to believe that it's my pair that is the T/S, and Easjo is scum.

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Now that both pairs are in the open, we almost have to go with the plan don't we.

1 Me
2 Yankee