Mini 950: DCI Mafia (The Results Are In...)

[NavyCherub]

/one fine day

[NavyCherub]

1. How much experience do you have playing mafia? Please include any off site forums which you play to.
   
   
   One full game off-site, a few games here, and tons of games on Epic Mafia, but chat mafia is very different from forum mafia.
   
   
   
2. What would you say is your scum meta is?
   
   
   This is a dangerous question...I'd say...diplomatic?
   
   
   
3. What would you say your town meta is?
   
   
   Less diplomatic.
   
   
   
4. Someone just got quicklynched, and is town. What do you do?
   
   
   ISO the people who were last on the wagon.
   
   
   
5. Same situation, but quicklynched is scum.
   
   
   Look at who didn't vote first, then move on to who did vote later? These questions are kind of bad, because I would be looking at everyone all the time and it depends heavily on the situation.
   
   
   
6. Your #1 scum read got NK'ed last night, and you have no reads on anyone else, and it's LYLO. What do you do?
   
   
   See above I suppose.

Vote Parama

because he's Parama, duh.

[NavyCherub]

I hate the inconsistency between games and players. I'm in another game with an extremely scummy person who everyone says is town because of her META, but no matter how hard I push for her lynch no one bites. I don't get why its okay in that game to let her go but to vote someone in this one. -headesk

This is why I dislike meta and consider meta questions dangerous.

[NavyCherub]

What's meta? I Googled it to no avail.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Meta

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I agree with Slaxx, at least a little. There's not really much that can be analyzed right away when it comes to random votes, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful later. Now, people overreacting to random votes/refusing to answer questions and such is something that can be looked at early.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I'm reaching for a reason not to random vote because I want to take the moral high ground now so I can lead later! [/quote]

This is bogus. I don't think he was "reaching" with that post, it looks like he was trying to start some real discussion and you're just yelling at him for it.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I'm overreacting to a random vote but I have nothing better to do so hopefully this won't look like paranoia! [/quote]

Agreed.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I haven't even posted acknowledging my presence in this game, I'm just going to be the lurkerscum of this game! [/quote]

Lurking isn't a scumtell unless it is a newb (or Nikanor hurhurhur).

Unvote,

vote kunkstar7.

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[NavyCherub]

EBWOP: I really screwed all of that up, haha.


I agree with Slaxx, at least a little. There's not really much that can be analyzed right away when it comes to random votes, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful later. Now, people overreacting to random votes/refusing to answer questions and such is something that can be looked at early.

Yo bro I'm reaching for a reason not to random vote because I want to take the moral high ground now so I can lead later!

This is bogus. I don't think he was "reaching" with that post, it looks like he was trying to start some real discussion and you're just yelling at him for it.

Yo bro I'm overreacting to a random vote but I have nothing better to do so hopefully this won't look like paranoia!

Agreed.

Yo bro I haven't even posted acknowledging my presence in this game, I'm just going to be the lurkerscum of this game!

Lurking isn't a scumtell unless it is a newb (or Nikanor hurhurhur).

Unvote, vote

kunkstar7.

[NavyCherub]

Who is opposed to an ani lynch today? I want

everyone

to weigh in on this. Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.

I find it strange that, on page 3, you already want people to commit to something.

[NavyCherub]

Starbuck's response looks like: Scum is curious as to why two of their scumbuddies have made my list of likely scum this early in the game!
I think I see a Kunk-Nacho-Starbuck or a Kunk-Stepho-Starbuck team now. More likely the first, though I want to see something from Stepho before I make a decision.

More like, you seem awfully confident in your scum choices so early in the game by making connections

because those are the only connections that have been made at all.

[NavyCherub]

Yes, you're jumping the gun by a longshot and that doesn't really help.

[NavyCherub]

It was Easter weekend.
You didn't have to call out an entire scum team like you're the God of mafia to create discussion.
Oh look, discussion!

[NavyCherub]

I agree with Nikanor, kunk's active lurking is making me love my vote on him.

The issue here is that scum defenses are NEVER this obvious.

Neither are scum connections, yet you seem to have had them all down right away, pretty cool.

[NavyCherub]

k!

unvote

Vote Looker

for having done nothing yet and going "unnoticed" in this respect for quite a bit.

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Navy, you got an opinion on Parama?

I dislike the whole "I can name 3 scum before breakfast" thing, but going along with that he has been scunhunting so he's automatically more town than most of the people in this game.

Unvote, vote ani

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I lean town on ani. I liked his questions in the early stage, as well as his explanation of his "random" vote, which made perfect pro-town sense.

Anyone can write questions before a game begins, and his explanation for the vote isn't pro-town because policy lynches are bad ideas, no matter what the reason! On top of that, calling one's own play scummy is not bad when there is proof to back this up. Or would you rather have him lie in these all-important questions?

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Slaxx is contradicting himself by attacking me.
Defends me for 7 pages, pulls a huge 180 and sticks me on his scumlist. No reason given for the switch.

Looks to me like he's reacting to you calling him out for the buddying (which he denies but I think is present).

However, it does seem like you're way overreacting to this.

Starbuck , we can get his partner today. We'll lynch Parama tomorrow.

setting up lynches is icky

I'm being as controversial as possible to try to spark discussion.

and you realize that admitting your scumminess doesn't make you any less scummy, correct?

I think there's definitely scum in Slaxx/Parama, at least one of them, probably not both but I wouldn't rule it out.

[NavyCherub]

Navy, what makes you think Slaxxx/Parama scum?

They seemed like a little buddy-ish in the middle of the day, but it wasn't too weird at that point. The recent events of Parama calling Slaxx out for buddying and then them both distancing themselves from each other looks really suspicious to me.

Who more? Why?

Slaxx; so far I've had a more town read on Parama, and similar to Nico this is different for me but that's what it is.

Why not together?

It's not that they can't be scum together, but right now I think its more likely that only one of them is scum because it doesn't seem like a scum team would make the distancing that obvious.

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Now you're pushing extremely hard for my lynch, calling me obv scum, before I even present my case.

Yupyupyup. More overreacting from Parama, probably some really hardcore distancing too. If ani wasn't so scummy I would want you dead pretty bad.

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That's funny, because you posted about how bad Slaxx's case on you is before it was even presented. Maybe you should listen to others before telling us that we're not listening to you.