Mini 937 - Mafia on Death Row OVER

[GreenDude]

I think I understand what Nacho is asking, and I can answer it and put an end to all this speculation.

I'm the real one-shot vig, and I NK'ed SSK because I assumed he was lying scum.

I think anyone would have made the same decision based on his fakeclaim. I've never played had this role before and was going to wait it out , but SSK made it an easy (although it turned out to be wrong) decision.

What the heck. You have no reason to claim vig and it is pretty stupid considering you will be night killed. I doubt there to be a doctor otherwise he would have protected Mafiassk.

Claiming for no reason thought, DeathSauce, espicially vig, one-shot or not, is either very stupid or very suspicious. I know that if I were scum(which I'm not), I would NK you just to be sure you ARE just a one-shot.

I agree with zodiark, you are either being very stupid or very suspicious. I find you more on the suspicious side than on the stupid side though. And I'm going to go ahead and

vote: DeathSauce

, and even if you are a one shot vigilante, then you've already used up your ability.

There is 2 possible scenarios:

1) DeathSauce is scum.
2) He's not.

If he's not, he already used up his ability. If he's scum then we're happy. We have a 1 in 2 chance of lynching scum today.

[GreenDude]

If deathsauce is not vigilante then Whoever IS vigilante should not claim today, because if deathsauce is scum it may be a sacrifice tactic.

[DeathRowKitty]

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Zodiark13 (2) [My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8]
pickemgenius (1) [Super Awesome Mega Pimp!]
GreenDude (1) [DeathSauce]
DeathSauce (1) [GreenDude]
Damon_Gant (0) []
My Milked Eek (0) []
Nachomamma8 (0) []
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! (0) []
wolframnhart (0) []
Not voting (4) [Damon_Gant, pickemgenius, wolframnhart, Zodiark13]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is currently April 16 at 9:30pm EST (April 17 at 2:30am GMT), but will probably be extended to account for decreased posting around Easter. The length of time of this extension is yet to be determined

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: GreenDude

That was the worst case I've ever heard in my life.

There is 2 possible scenarios:

1) DeathSauce is scum.
2) He's not.

If he's not, he already used up his ability. If he's scum then we're happy. We have a 1 in 2 chance of lynching scum today.

Well, there are two possible scenarios:

1) You're scum.
2) You're not.

1 in 2 chance of lynching scum!

[GreenDude]

Not what I meant,

I mean:

There is a possiblity that deathsauce is scum, and we can't pass up an oppotunity of lynching scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Well... there's also a possibility that you're scum, and we can't pass up an opportunity of lynching scum...

[GreenDude]

No, thats not what I meant.

I think that deathsauce sounded really fake when he suddenly says, "Oh, btw, it really stupid of me to say this but I'm the vigilante."

And because of that, we should lynch him. Not because of 1 in 2 chance or because there's a possibility he's scum.

I simply phrased it wrong.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: Zodiark13

There's an actual reason

And honestly, I agree with you completely. That doesn't seem like something scum would do, though; too much risk of being vigged tonight. However, that is definitely something an SK would do... Mafia doesn't know that he isn't a vig; neither does the town. There's also a good chance of a vig not existing; otherwise, they would've countered Mafia SSK yesterday, or Deathsauce today.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

I think that deathsauce sounded really fake when he suddenly says, "Oh, btw, it really stupid of me to say this but I'm the vigilante."

Nice misrep:

I know it's a risk, but

I don't think it's stupid

(or suspicious, obv). It was looking like we were going to skip analysis of the nightkill so I wasn't going to claim unless that happened.

Also, DS is town. Unnecessary claiming = huge town tell.

There's also a good chance of a vig not existing; otherwise, they would've countered Mafia SSK yesterday, or Deathsauce today.

No they wouldn't have. They're vigs. They have these marvelous inventions called "guns". Since you've apparently never heard of one before, they're what vigs use to "kill" the fakeclaims at night without giving away their role in a counterclaim.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

I think that deathsauce sounded really fake when he suddenly says, "Oh, btw, it really stupid of me to say this but I'm the vigilante."

Nice misrep:

I know it's a risk, but

I don't think it's stupid

(or suspicious, obv). It was looking like we were going to skip analysis of the nightkill so I wasn't going to claim unless that happened.

Also, DS is town. Unnecessary claiming = huge town tell.

There's also a good chance of a vig not existing; otherwise, they would've countered Mafia SSK yesterday, or Deathsauce today.

No they wouldn't have. They're vigs. They have these marvelous inventions called "guns". Since you've apparently never heard of one before, they're what vigs use to "kill" the fakeclaims at night without giving away their role in a counterclaim.

[Nachomamma8]

No they wouldn't have. They're vigs. They have these marvelous inventions called "guns". Since you've apparently never heard of one before, they're what vigs use to "kill" the fakeclaims at night without giving away their role in a counterclaim.

Thanks for that. Let me introduce you to a little invention I like to call... READING!

That doesn't seem like something scum would do, though; too much risk of being vigged tonight.

[DeathSauce]

No, thats not what I meant.

I think that deathsauce sounded really fake when he suddenly says, "Oh, btw, it really stupid of me to say this but I'm the vigilante."

And because of that, we should lynch him. Not because of 1 in 2 chance or because there's a possibility he's scum.

I simply phrased it wrong.

Pure unadulterated straw-man fallaciousness. I never said it was stupid for me to claim, I posted simply and clearly why I thought it wasn't.

Watching you squirm under Nacho's questioning is telling.

[DeathSauce]

Nacho, I am unclear. You think I'm an SK?

[DeathRowKitty]

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Zodiark13 (2) [My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8]
pickemgenius (1) [Super Awesome Mega Pimp!]
GreenDude (1) [DeathSauce]
DeathSauce (1) [GreenDude]
Damon_Gant (0) []
My Milked Eek (0) []
Nachomamma8 (0) []
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! (0) []
wolframnhart (0) []
Not voting (4) [Damon_Gant, pickemgenius, wolframnhart, Zodiark13]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is currently April 16 at 9:30pm EST (April 17 at 2:30am GMT), but will probably be extended to account for decreased posting around Easter. The length of time of this extension is yet to be determined

[GreenDude]

If there is one thing deathsauce isn't, it's a vigilante.

So DeathSauce, what are you?

[DeathSauce]

What the heck. You have no reason to claim vig and it is pretty stupid considering

you will be night killed

. I doubt there to be a doctor otherwise he would have protected Mafiassk.

Bolding mine.

Interesting choice of words there, GD. You seem quite certain about the Night kill. How is it that you know who is going to be NK'ed?

[GreenDude]

That's not what I mean deathsauce, I'm mean, theoretically the mafia will kill you.

[GreenDude]

There is no fooling me, deathsauce is scum. He thinks there is a vigilante because of the nightkill. And now he wants the vigilante to claim. It's a sacrifice tactic.

[Damon_Gant]

If your main concern with PEG is the lurking and fluff-posting, VOTE HIM!

Especially

if you're not doing anything else with your vote. Early D2 is a perfectly reasonable time to step up the pressure.

Vote: pickemgenius

Your point is very fair.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Scum don't do "sacrifice tactics". Not unless the sacrificed scum is already getting lynched anyways, and DS wasn't. There is no power role worth trading the life of an unsuspected scum for. Trust me, DS is town.

[Damon_Gant]

Ok, so my saying that SSK played a blinder is no longer true. Turns out SSK just wasted our one shot vig (assuming that DeathSauce is a one shot vig). Thinking about it, is there actually any possibility of DeathSauce being scum. If there are two night kills tomorrow night, then DeathSauce is in pretty big trouble. If he's mafia, then he surely wouldn't take the risk that the second kill was an SK or an unlimited shots vig, and if he were an SK...well usually SKs can't no kill, but I suppose this avenue is slightly open. But only very slightly.

SAMP pointed out the flaw in the sacrifice theory. So all that being said, DS is certain town in my eyes.

[GreenDude]

If there are two night kills tomorrow night, then DeathSauce is in pretty big trouble. If he's mafia, then he surely wouldn't take the risk that the second kill was an SK or an unlimited shots vig

I doubt deathsauce is a vigilante or a SK. But if deathsauce thought a second night kill wouldn't happen since a one shot vigilante already used his ability then it makes sense for him to be mafia.

Now that I think about it, the sacrifice theory is wrong since a one shot vigilante would be pointless to get rid of.

[GreenDude]

@deathsauce: Plz answer my question, what role are you actually?

I have gone through every possiblity and there is no logical explanation for deathsauce to claim vigilante.

[GreenDude]

1 Solution just came to mind:

Deathsauce is a jester-type role who has to get nightkilled to win.

[Zodiark13]

First of all, Happy Easter!
*hands out chocolate eggs*

Second;

@mod, I genuenly believe PEG has no interest in this game anymore, becuase it's been five days since his last post and he's been very active in this thread. Re-request replacement please.

.

Unless PEG requests replacement or is repeatedly prodded, he won't be replaced.

-DRK

GD, I hope your joking. Jesters are a no-go for a normal game. The setup wouldn't have been approved if there was one.

Interesting choice of words there, GD. You seem quite certain about the Night kill. How is it that you know who is going to be NK'ed?

Isn't it obvious?

A) You're town, and scum KN's you, believing your claim.
B) You're scum, and the real vig NK's you, because he know you're lying.

I suggest we wait until tomorrow to resolve this. NK's say a thousand words.