Lay of Leithian Mafia: Game Over!

[Drippereth]

Only meta I've got is that Sens almost always busses in some manner when he's scum in a newbie.
You see anything interesting other than the no random-vote thing yet?

Vote Count 06: Lynch

Starbuck - 1 - PaltryExcuse
Drippereth - 3 - J-Scope, Cyberbob, xvart
Steam Powered Shovel - 1 - Starbuck
SensFan - 2 - Steam-Powered Shovel, curiouskarmadog
FeFiFoFum - 1 - Jack
Starbuck - 1 - Cobalt
SpyreX - 1 - SocioPath
Elscouta - 1 - SpyreX
xvart -

9

- Elmocrates, Budja, Drippereth, Kmd4390, Iecerint, farside22, ooba, FeFiFoFum, Anon
Anon - 1 - Elscouta
MehPlusRawr - 1 - Papa Zito
xofelf - 1 - SensFan

Not Voting (2): MehPlusRawr, xofelf

With 25 players alive it'll take 13 to lynch and 13 to no-Lynch.

There are no players in the

Halls of Mandos

, so right now there are no

Revive

or

Destroy

counts.

[SpyreX]

Ohh meta I love you and want to marry you lets have this discussion for pages and pages.

@El,

What with the copious amounts of information each person is giving on your wagon, how do you define those ones as more opportunistic?

[xvart]

So apparently you suspect him because he did something that isn't inherently town. That's a crappy reason to suspect someone, because some things that aren't inherently town (like signing your name) are obviously not suspicious. I asked you to explain to me why you found it suspicious, and you haven't done that. Please do so.

I believe that someone that is town aligned would be significantly less likely to claim scumbuddies. If someone is significantly less likely to be town, then that person is significantly more likely to have a different win condition than the town. At the time of my vote, I did not consider that the person in question had just finished a game with the person he claimed as a scumbuddy in which they actually were scumbuddies.

xvart: Why do you think scum are more likely to joke about being scum?

It is not that I think scum are necessarily more likely to joke about being scum; but I believe that town is less likely than scum to joke about it. Additionally, scum couldn’t be that stupid to do something like that, so it could give the perfect cover for a scum to slide through like that.

No. You can tell I'm not saying this because I didn't say it

I was not the only one confused by your analogy; but I suppose I just incorrectly equated “not inherently town” to “scummy.”

Please name the people who have said that he can't possibly be scum.

Kmd and debatably, Farside

Obviously I have not done a good job at conveying my view and painted a big target on my back. To sum it all up:

1. I felt that Elscouta was more likely scum because of his scum buddy comment.
   
2. I voted because of that.
   Others agreed with my view enough to also cast a vote (or at least to start a mini-bandwagon).
   
3. It came out that the comment was in reference to
   another
   game where the claim was actually true, so my original opinion was no longer valid.
   
4. Knowing my alignment and the target I put on myself I felt/feel that there are probably some scum on my wagon right now, so I started pushing back.

I’ll continue to answer questions that anyone has, but I’m going to start looking into some of the other discussion topics instead of continuing along this front sense I'm getting nowhere and creating a big distraction.

xvart.

[SocioPath]

This talk of claimed scum buddies is silly.
Lets more it more towards ME.

Someone quote me and respond to this statement in saying that it is scummy, and then lets back a back and forth refuting each others stances and opinions.

[SpyreX]

Someone quote

me

and respond to this statement in saying that it

is

scum

my, and then lets back a back and forth refuting each others stances and opinions.

Done.

Busted your breadcrumb.

[Jack]

So far the only thing I have to say is, breadcrumbing your role if you're a cop is stupid.

[Elmocrates]

I believe that someone that is town aligned would be significantly less likely to claim scumbuddies.

{..}

It is not that I think scum are necessarily more likely to joke about being scum; but I believe that town is less likely than scum to joke about it.

You coulda said that when I asked why you suspected him. Why do you think that?

Kmd and debatably, Farside

I don't see it. Neither of them say that Elscouta's even likely town.

Elmo

[SocioPath]

Someone quote

me

and respond to this statement in saying that it

is

scum

my, and then lets back a back and forth refuting each others stances and opinions.

Done.

Busted your breadcrumb.

AW CRAPZ.

I meant someone OTHER THAN YOU THOUGH.

Look at this town.

LOOK AT IT IGNORE ME.

So far the only thing I have to say is, breadcrumbing your role if you're a cop is stupid.

Breadcrumbing in general I feel is poor.
It masks the ability of crappy play with silly hidden word games with the intent it MEANS something productive.

Take players on face value, not who can play crypograms the best.

[SpyreX]

Actually,

What in the blue blazes does that statement have to do with anything Jack?

If you THOUGHT you saw it from someone this game, why would you make any mention of it?'

If not from this game... why?

[Drippereth]

SpyreX is town. Phew!

[Jack]

I don't understand your motivation there SpyreX.

[SpyreX]

My motivation of asking you why you'd bludgeon the thread with "Someone claimed cop PS scum get a readin!"?

[Jack]

Yes.

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: Jack

Wrong answer.

[Jack]

It was a simple question...why don't you want to share your motivation?

[SpyreX]

What motivation good lord man I was asking why YOU thought it was of any importance to the town to mention finding a cop breadcrumb.

I mean, it'd sure be nice to let a subset of players whom you could only talk to at night become aware of just in case, but the town?

[Jack]

And I wanted to know why you wanted to know that. SpyreX, I feel sometimes like you are putting words in my mouth.

[SpyreX]

I wanted to know what rationale you had because making any reference to a breadcrumb at this stage is one of those "If I had a daykill I'd sure be greasing the barrel" kind of statements and, silly me, I opted to let you try to explain how that was a GOOD THING or, really, even A NULL THING versus A BAD THING SCUM DO.

[Budja]

FoS Jack

Thats all you have to say. Some cryptic comment with little to do with current discussion.

[Jack]

I wanted to know what rationale you had because making any reference to a breadcrumb at this stage is one of those "If I had a daykill I'd sure be greasing the barrel" kind of statements and, silly me, I opted to let you try to explain how that was a GOOD THING or, really, even A NULL THING versus A BAD THING SCUM DO.

Why don't you explain why it's a bad thing scum do? Did I misunderstand your comment about "a certain subset of players who can talk to each other at night"?

[Iecerint]

Unvote; Vote: Jack

.

At best, town setting up an anti-town meta. That, or he simply lacks restraint.

I thought he might be going somewhere with it at first.

[SocioPath]

Maybe He Just Doesn't Know Jack.

Unvote
Vote: Jack

*INSERT REASON FOR VOTE HERE*

[Budja]

Why do more votes make this wagon look tempting .
Proof to me you are more useful than xvart or I might just switch.

[Elmocrates]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89nRU_l3nO4

[Papa Zito]

Guys.

7. MehPlusRawr

Bold means Confirmed.

Confirmed and 0 posts. I call shenanigans. Lynch plz.