Mini 935 -- The Fountainhead (Completed)

[d3x]

Claim:

Well, my dude has no name, and no powers.

WTF is this bullshit.

If you don't believe him, then why aren't you Voting him?

I've already claimed ... I can nameclaim if people want.

I thought that was the point of a MassClaim.

@Fate- I agree. What order would you like for the MassClaim?

@Porkens- Was that a serious Claim?

[AlmasterGM]

You can claim other nights and the actions you did on those nights.

You are a JOAT, right? Not a one-shot cop?

Do you actually want the scum to know what I did on those nights? And yes, I'm a JOAT.

[Fate]

Yes AGM, I do.

I believe that was a serious claim from Porkens. My d3x scum meter just rose.

A claim in the order of:

R_C (he's been posting in other games)
D3x
AGM
Fate

Works for me of course. You all can lynch me if you think my claim isn't good enough to go after everyone else, but I have a strong reason to believe it does.

[AlmasterGM]

If you don't believe him, then why aren't you Voting him?

Because if I'm wrong it's game over?

I thought that was the point of a MassClaim.

I actually just read my role PM and it turns out I don't have a name, just a description saying what I do / who I am. Whoops. Maybe Porkens is telling the truth after all ...

[d3x]

I want to know from Porkens if that's an actual Claim because if he's f*ing around and I Vote him, Scum can end this.

[AlmasterGM]

I want to know from Porkens if that's an actual Claim because if he's f*ing around and I Vote him, Scum can end this.

How do you understand this concept now, but you didn't understand it when I wasn't voting for him less than 5 minutes ago.

[d3x]

How do you understand this concept now, but you didn't understand it when I wasn't voting for him less than 5 minutes ago.

Calling a Claim "bullshit" and being worried about Scum QuickLynching are 2

very

different things, AGM. Why is Porkens' Claim "bullshit"?

[Fate]

Ok, D3x IS OBVSCUM because he doesn't know that Town roles have no name. We got lucky that AGM forget that for a second. D3x then tries to coax AGM into voting him.

D3X claim now.

RC can come after you.

Any objections?

I want to know from Porkens if that's an actual Claim because if he's f*ing around and I Vote him, Scum can end this.

Why would you vote him? For his vanilla claim alone?

SCUM TEAM HAS BEEN DISCOVERED.

[d3x]

I have no problems Claiming now.

Roger Enright-VT

That's going to be a hard sell considering that all of the Townies I'm seeing have names, as do I. Care to reconcile that, Fate?

[Fate]

Yeah, it is a hard sell.

HEY RC, WHAT U CLAIM?

[Fate]

Oh read that wrong, you're saying what IM saying is a hard sell, not your claim.

I'll explain more after RC claims.

RC, buss D3x now he's a lost cause.

[AlmasterGM]

How do you understand this concept now, but you didn't understand it when I wasn't voting for him less than 5 minutes ago.

Calling a Claim "bullshit" and being worried about Scum QuickLynching are 2

very

different things, AGM. Why is Porkens' Claim "bullshit"?

I thought it was bullshit because everyone else who had died had a name and he didn't. Then I realized I didn't have a name either.

However, this has nothing to do with my point. Here is my concern:

Me: Porkens is spewing BS.
You: Why not vote Porkens?
Me: Because if I'm wrong, town loses.

Why was the third line, that L-2 equals town loss if we are wrong, not apparent to you? Were you trying to goad me into voting Porkens by hoping for a repeat of D1, where Budja said pretty much the same thing and then I voted?

[RedCoyote]

My claim is a Townie.

Are y'all ready for this though? I don't have a name either. My role is a public figure who enjoys the successes of the free market.

Hmmm...

d3x came on pretty strong against Porkens for the name thing, but going back to the first post we see that clearly other Vanillas had names. In fact, every dead Vanilla has a name, so, if I was in d3x's position, I would be very surprised at Porkens' claim too.

I don't think we can use the names as tools, frankly. I think we're going to have to consider them null for the time being. Additionally, I'm fairly sure Roger Enright is a character in the book.

[RedCoyote]

Scratch that somewhat. I would say this has made me more comfortable in Porkens position as town, knowing that I'm not the only player without a name. I hadn't even realized that I didn't have a name until I went back and checked with the role PM.

I imagine this was probably purposeful, to have me and Porkens come up without names.

Fate?

[HowardRoark]

You may never quote anything you received in a PM from me.

[Porkens]

I imagine this was probably purposeful, to have me and Porkens come up without names.

For whom was is purposeful?

I have a vote in mind.

I am waiting for Fate, too.

[Fate]

I'm waiting for the rest of AGM's actions, remember?

[AlmasterGM]

I still have no idea WHY you need to know this information, but whatever:

N1 - Investigate DDD.
N2 - Create bullet-proof-vest on self.
N3 - Doctor d3x.

Actions remaining: Commute; Roleblock

So I'm basically invincible, and I have a small chance of stopping the mafia kill tonight.

@Fate - I don't understand your "town roles have no names" arg - why do some of the dead townies have names, then?

Current top two pick for scum: d3x and RC.

[Fate]

Oh ok. So you explain the nokill on N2 with your Bulletproofness?

BULLSHIT.

I claim Watcher, my PR has no name. I appreciate nice things that capitalism had made possible (paraphrased.)

N1: No one visited Kthxbye
N2:

NO ONE VISITED AGM

N3: STILL

NO ONE VISITED AGM

N4: No one visited Porkens (I thought he was the doctor and scum would stay clear of the two obvious protection targets: Agm and Cruelty, and hunt for the doctor).

Breadcrumbs:
ISO #14:

Then again I don't want to tunnel someone for "playstyle differences." I'll continue to

watch

you today, though.

ISO #29:

Scum probably didn't have the balls to try and kill AGM and fail.

So Almaster is left alive again. Interesting.

Scum won't fall for that trick. Like I said D3, they don't have the balls to shoot you.

Damn it Porkens, you were supposed to draw the NK.

I crumbed heavily, and the purpose of it was to try and the NK myself as the "doctor" so the real doc could MC the innocent person on N2.

Apparently, there is no doc, and N2 is explained by either scum NO KILLING FOR NO REASON, or AGM IS SCUM.

Nice gambit AGM. Bus your own RB with a JOAT claim?

But, I'm not putting a vote down yet. Something doesn't add up. A Roleblocker flip, and I'm the only PR? That's why I really believed AGM until he claimed just now. I thought he was going to claim a protect N2 on someone.

Rest of town: what say you? AGM is definitely scum right? (If I'm town, and vice versa.)

[AlmasterGM]

You're insane.

[Fate]

An insane watcher eh?

NICE TRY!

DIE NINJA DIE!

This begs the question of course: why the *** did we have a miller? Red herring?

[AlmasterGM]

I meant literally. Like, in real life.

The reason we have a Miller is because I had a cop ability. The reason I am a JOAT is because it makes perfect sense setup wise (Watcher + Doc is weakass + 1-shot Vig is overly passive) and flavor wise (well-off, well-versed contributor to our lovely capitalist economy).

Moreover, are you even BOTHERING to look at dayplay? What have I done, exactly, that makes me worthy of lynch?

[Porkens]

On the topic of Names:

No one, except for dx, has claimed a name (correct?). I'm guessing that names are being assigned POST death. From the fiasco early today, I believe DX is lynchable. Red also has an important interaction or two in this fiasco.

Red, please do answer my question about the purposefulness of our lack of names.

On the topic of JOATs and Watchers:

I have a couple questions for AGM:

1. Would you know if you had been shot at?

Commute

2. What does this power do?

[RedCoyote]

I'm sorry, Mod. I wasn't trying to subvert the rules, but I figured if the other players were allowed to post their names than I'd be able to announce my "name".

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For whom was is purposeful?

For the game.

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Actions remaining: Commute; Roleblock

Is commute like a bus driver role?

Current top two pick for scum: d3x and RC.

Ugh. Surely you don't think this, Almaster. Kthxbye killed himself in vain?

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Rest of town: what say you? AGM is definitely scum right? (If I'm town, and vice versa.)

I don't know, the last time someone claimed Watcher on me, I believed him. I had a very good scumread on him, and I was slowly convincing the rest of the town to jump aboard the wagon. I also happened to track him to the kill the previous night. It was a sure thing, until he claimed Watcher.

He was a Watcher alright, a mafia Watcher.

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No one, except for dx, has claimed a name (correct?). I'm guessing that names are being assigned POST death. From the fiasco early today, I believe DX is lynchable.

That's a good point.

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I believe both Almaster and Fate's claims, I'm just not sure what alignment Fate has.

I'm still leaning toward scum, because I don't really get his D3 play otherwise. I'd have to imagine he'd want to feel the town out more, rather than rush to a lynch.

[Fate]

D3, eh? What was that again?

Oh yeah, the day a TOWNIE SELF-HAMMERED.

Sorry I couldn't predict that my vote would lead to that.

Your day play is non-existant AGM. Our days have been filled with little to no gameplay. D1: Lynch the miller claim.
D2: "Scum scan=death"
D3: "HEY GUYS IMMA SELFHAMMAH CAUSE IM FULL OF MYSELF AND _KNOW_ SCUM IS ON MY WAGON" (thanks for even pointing out your reads at that time Kthx)

Therefore, I don't care about your day play. I care about the fact that you claimed "made myself BP" (never seen a Joat with anything remotely close to that). That is what's off, you didn't "commute" or "hide" that night to explain my no-result on the watch.

You made yourself BP. And there was no death that night. AGM, what else could have happened since scum didn't visit you (per my results)?