Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

[JacobSavage]

@Jag Johan

Something bothers me about this lynch, and what it is my belief that he is town

And also, Blue is a lot like me in that he is often perceived as scum when town, and town when scum.

[dramonic]

Votecount 8:

Gain

Tide!

Blue (6): Shrinehme, Konowa, NavyCherub, Fate, mehplusrawr, Jag Johan
Parama (4): SIR CYANIDE, DTMaster, Leafsnail, Farside
SIR CYANIDE (3): Chronopie, Blue, JacobSavage,
Konowa (1): Maemuki
Shattered Viewpoint (1): FeFiFoFum
Shrinehme (1): SpyreX
LeafSnail (1): Parama

Not Voting (3): the1fifi, Henry Hathaway, Shadow Dancer

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Henry is prodded

If anything seems incorrect in the votecount tell me.

Deadline is the 11th of April

[JacobSavage]

Unvote

[Blue]

Unvote

[Fate]

RIP:

The SIR Cyanide policy lynch

3/21/2010-3/27/2010

You will be missed.

[MehPlusRawr]

XD@Fate.

Come on, let's lynch Blue nao.

[Chronopie]

Seeing as my vote on cyanide was from Rvs, and he appears to have quietened down.

Unvote

Now

the policy lynch is dead

[Fate]

Seeing as my vote on cyanide was from Rvs, and he appears to have quietened down.

Unvote

Now

the policy lynch is dead

You still had a RVS vote on him?

HoS: Chronopie

Now tell us what you think about Blue and Parama, please.

[Shrinehme]

If he's town, lynch Shrinehme. I've been suspicious of Shrinehme for a while, and he was aggressively pushing for the lynch earlier.

"You were joking about extreme WIFOM and accusing me of tunnel-vision, but you're suspicious of people who jumped on you you because of your "joke"?

Did I miss something here?"

If he's scum, I'm not sure who to lynch.

Setting up lynches? For what purpose?

Why does my pushing the wagon indicate anything about my alignment?

Why are you so prepared with "If he's Town" scenarios if you think he's Scum?

[MehPlusRawr]

Mafia wants to lynch pro-town roles. Town wants to lynch anti-town roles. This was my case on you earlier:

Shrinehme (Since he's been kinda lurking, not doing anything scummy, not doing anything townie, but posting enough so he's not prodded. His posts don't really contain anything useful either. Also, defended
Cyanide. If Cyanide flips scum, this guy is more likely to be scum too. Either way, he's not helping town and wouldn't be an incredibly bad guy to lose.)

[MehPlusRawr]

EBWOP: Oh, and @thelastpartofyourcomment- I was going to offer a situation for Blue's being scum and Blue's being town, but I couldn't really think of any people who seem connected to Blue in a bad way, if that makes sense. So, I just provided a situation for him being town. If he's scum, we'll see where to go from there.

[SIR CYANIDE]

On second thought, I'm not that cool with a Blue lynch actually.

Opinion on Blue: tunneled on me from the start, nothing special/scummy really. Low skill (mass AtE, bad reasoning, not enough arguing, poor arguments, ...,), which is backed up by his recent joining date. I call newbtown.

Parama: scum. Quick ISO, please do notice how he phrases things (underlined and in blue for your convenience):

yo I'm replacing
don't expect much from me next few days

I believe we are wagoning CYANIDE
I don't have my role PM yet

but dram already said I was replacing so
vote: SIR CYANIDE

SIR CYANIDE, you are making this game unenjoyable for the other players and are hurting the town with your actions.

I'd suggest replacing out otherwise you're probably going to get lynched quickly.

Read before you make terrible accusations like that please.

It would be a vote but CYANIDE needs to go - don't worry, we can get Leafsnail tomorrow guys!

Do not agree with anything here.

CYANIDE is a policy lynch and a great one

- nothing more. It's not OMGUS, it's misogyny. He's not trying to start a wagon, he's just being a jerk.

We're policy lynching him. If you read the thread you would see this.

Looks like Meh is wagoning to me.
The vote is fine though

Etc., he acts as if he has a lot of authority which is something I generally find more so in scum than in town. I get a gut feel from his phrasing as well, which is probably because Mafia tend to put up the reasons first instead of after. Example follows:

Town-phrasing: vote: blahblah, your play has been very arguable and I don't buy your claim

Mafia-phrasing: I don't believe your claim and your play has been arguable so far, that is why I am going to vote for you:ote: blahblah

Of course it is not set in stone, but it is something I have noticed after a lot of games and tends to be -fairly- accurate (i.e. if you'd have 15% of lynching scum just by selecting randomly, you'd have about 25-30% if only using this tell. I had the exact numbers somewhere but lost them).

[Parama]

What does the fact that I didn't have my role PM when I first posted have to do with anything? If you really want to ask the mod, he can confirm it.
And I don't think your argument holds true at all. I've put my vote before my argument as scum and my vote after my argument as town.

[DTMaster]

@Chrono

p.s: Can cyanide please stop being a dick for a while, so we can sort out your scumbuddies.

Seeing as my vote on cyanide was from Rvs, and he appears to have quietened down.

Unvote

Now

the policy lynch is dead

This guy just back tracked on a huge wagon. We should totally kill this guy.

@Spy

I've got this feeling deep in my gut MpR is town. Its just too weeeeird.

Because you're his scummmmmm buddddiiiiie? HmmmmmmmZ??

@Meh

Sorry, all, I've been busy. What happened to the Cyanide policy lynch? Eh, I'll be back sometime later.

Because we are hunting scumz, not hunting policy targets. Hunt scumz, deal with jerks.

@Town
We should totally kill Chrono/Meh/Pan. I'm ok with Blue because there are heavy links between Blue and Pan but in terms of scumminess it's still Pan -> Chrono = Meh -> Blue.

[Fate]

@Spy
Spy wrote:

I've got this feeling deep in my gut MpR is town. Its just too weeeeird.


Because you're his scummmmmm buddddiiiiie? HmmmmmmmZ??

PUSHING A D1 SPYREX LYNCH IS ANTI-TOWN!

Unvote: Blue

Vote: DTM

LAWLZ.

Anyway, Blue gave up. Jacob Savage, DTM, and a few others have called Blue town.

AKA, lynch him.

Unvote: DTM

Vote: Blue

[Chronopie]

how does me finally unvoting make me scummy?

It was an rvs vote turned policy vote.

And huge wagon my arse, I was the only one left one it

[JacobSavage]

Anyway, Blue gave up. Jacob Savage, DTM, and a few others have called Blue town.

When did blue give up?

[Shrinehme]

Anyway, Blue gave up. Jacob Savage, DTM, and a few others have called Blue town.

When did blue give up?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 27#2190327

DTM's 313 has inspired me to go ISORead Chronopie

[SpyreX]

Chrono isn't a bad route. The fact its Shrine pushing it makes me a little worried, but.

I am tempted to jump to Blue just to get this party moving again. I'm not sold on scum, but I hate the early claim and the vanilla bit.

[Leafsnail]

Bah, lynch me. You will only find that I'm an innocent townie... All I did was joke around a bit and try to get the game started.

I don't like this. Town in your position has no real reason to be defeatist at this point.

If you're innocent, I implore you to not to follow...

Horrible WIFOM...

Mafia wants to lynch pro-town roles. Town wants to lynch anti-town roles. This was my case on you earlier:

What the hell has this got to do with anything?

[DTMaster]

@FATE
OBVIOUSLY SPYREX IS TOO

AWESOME

SCUMMY TO KEEP ALIVE LAWLZ.

Spy-scum had the unfortunate encounter to run up against Paranoid Charter and Townie-DTM back in Battle Mage Mafia. >:3

@Spy
Wat, what about me? And Fate? Who are pretty much doing this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU

Except maybe in a different order. :p

@Chrono

Votecount 4: Really Ridiculous Drama!

SIR CYANIDE (8): DTMaster, Shadow Dancer, Chronopie, Blue, Shattered Viewpoint, mehplusrawr, Parama, Farside
Blue (2): Shrinehme, Konowa
Konowa (2): Julano, SIR CYANIDE
Parama (1): Fate
Shattered Viewpoint (1): FeFiFoFum
No Lynch (1): JacobSavage


Not Voting (5): the1fifi, Leafsnail, NavyCherub, Henry Hathaway, Jag Johan

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

If anything seems incorrect in the votecount tell me.

As per request, Shattered Viewpoint will be replaced. Shouldn't take very long either...

Deadline is the 11th of April

This wasn't a huge wagon. And oh wow: You are totally doing back flips since you said this:

Sir Cyanide is acting the jerk, that's a meta-cyan-scumtell!

Lynch!!11!!!

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Yes, a Sir Cyanide lynch would be acceptable, followed by:

-Jacob savage for trying to outguess the mod, and possibly lead us all down the wrong track, and no-lynch will not help town in ~90% of cases.

-Julano for liking what cyanides been saying,

-shattered viewpoint for obv. bussing

(I'm guessing 4 scum members in a 20 man game)

Chrono is acting like a deer caught in headlights with his vote.

[SpyreX]

@FATE
OBVIOUSLY SPYREX IS TOO AWESOME SCUMMY TO KEEP ALIVE LAWLZ.

Spy-scum had the unfortunate encounter to run up against Paranoid Charter and Townie-DTM back in Battle Mage Mafia. >:3

@Spy
Wat, what about me? And Fate? Who are pretty much doing this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU

Except maybe in a different order. :p

If you're callin me scum broseph lets get the teehee out of the way and do it

The latter part? I still don't like Shrine's interaction with Cyanide-gate. So, watching the other jump makes me paranoid. Of course, if that factor WAS removed I could see being far more in favor of it but so it goes.

[NavyCherub]

I still need to think for a bit...but while I'm trying to:

If you're innocent, I implore you to not to follow...

!?

Posts like these are scummeh scummeh. "OMG so confused let me think but also call someone out real quick...ok bye!"

MehPlusRawr

stop trying to set up lynches, it never works and only ends up making you look bad later.

Etc., he acts as if he has a lot of authority which is something I generally find more so in scum than in town.

He

always

does this, which is why I'm not so sure on my read of him yet. I don't understand why he does it because it's terribly scummy and doesn't help anyone, but he does.

This guy just back tracked on a huge wagon.

I agree with this and your case a couple posts before this.

fos chrono.

[Chronopie]

Do I need to put sarcasm tags on everything?

the cyanide 'scumtell' post was an obv over-reaction post for lawlz (read: sarcasm)

8 people in a 20 man game doesn't equal huge wagon, and my point was that when I left the wagon, and was accused of turning or w/e, I was the last one left.

[NavyCherub]

Maybe you should put sarcasm tags around scummy things.