Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[danakillsu]

There's no reason for Lowell to reveal his results yet.

Yeah, sure. proving his innocence isn't a reason at all (rolls eyes).
And way to dodge the thrust of my post. You still haven't given a reason for voting for me (other than maybe the fact that I'm not voting for fifi, who I only said got some scum points).

lowell-1- danakillsu
danakillsu-1-Wdjat

[Wdjat]

What are you high? Did you forget day 1?

[danakillsu]

I think that if lowell wasn't scum, he would have died last night, that's what I think about the night kill.
I didn't want kyle lynched, that's what I think about the lynch.
I think kunk's post was weird, but not necessarily scummy, I think lowell is scum unless proven otherwise, and I think wdjat needs to make a case against me if he's going to vote for me, that's what I think about the players in this game.

[danakillsu]

What are you high? Did you forget day 1?

No and no. What part are you referring to (out of 14 pages)?

[Lowell]

yeah I dont' think dana is crazy for being upset about the non-reveal. But yeah, he is obviously wrong. But seriously, people, I'm not that twitchy that you all need to jump down his throat about it.

I advocate the "if I'm a cop, I investigated X" format kunk outlined. Particularly in this game with an unknown number of cops, it could be hugely effective. Mafia wont' get much from it (maybe one or two people accidently claim they investigated mafia, but that's not a huge loss). The difference between unknown roles claiming investigations and a "claimed cop" (<---for dana's sake) claiming investigations is that the latter sentences someone to death (PARTICULARLY since scum didn't attack me tonight).

Also, dana, how would me revealing my innocent clear me? Wouldn't I know who the innocents are if I'm scum? It's much better to let things play out until the end of the day. Or close to it.

Truthfully, though, I get townish vibes from dana's anger. Scum would have thought this through better. Call that WIFOM if you want, but I think it's valid.

[kunkstar7]

3) kunkstar7: "If I am a cop, I investigated Max last night." What?

It means, if I am a cop I investigated Max last night, therefore have no information to give to the town today. I suggest everyone doing this. If you are not a cop, post:

"If I am a cop, I investigated X last night", where X is any member of the game currently living or Max, as he was a possible investigation choice last night.

If you are a cop with a result post:
"If I am a cop, I investigated {{player}} last night", where {{player}} is your result.

This provides scum with no information as to possible cops but still allows any cops to provide their information, which will be confirmed on their death or by claiming at some point.

I agree with Lowell's stance, even though it does little to confirm him. Claiming the result at the end might be a suitable approach. But seeing as you are a claimed cop in the open, we need the results at some point before scum have the chance to kill you and decline us those results if you are really cop.

[Gheb]

Hey kunk who do you think is scum? Part of the reason why you're on the top of my scumlist is because you hopped only very easy wagons on D1 and you never seemed to have genuine opinions on whom's scum. Care to share something with us for a change?

[Gayle]

Checking in before I get prodded. I'll post something after class.

[JacobSavage]

Fine, if I am cop, I investigated Gayle last night

[jmj3000]

If I am a cop, I investigated kunkstar.

Now back to rereading the topic multiple times with different mindsets to see what I can come up with.

[Gayle]

Quickly,

Returning my vote to

Vote: Hewitt

If Lowell is not revealing his results, then he believes that he will survive the night.

I don't have much recollection of this game, but from memory, Dana, JacobSavage, and Fifi all had terrible reasons for voting kyle.

I'll try to make a better post tomorrow.

[Gheb]

If I'm cop I investigated kunkstar.

[jmj3000]

This game is dragging terribly. TALK PEOPLE!

@everyone: Who are your top three suspects?

[kunkstar7]

Hi, Lowell, just say your results, we are getting nowhere.
In other news,wdjat seems townie to me. Dana and the1fifi are good candidates for a lynch right now.

Vote: the1fifi

Mod: Request Deadline/Prod/Nuclear Device Ability

[Wdjat]

What are you high? Did you forget day 1?

No and no. What part are you referring to (out of 14 pages)?

I really dig your "case? what case?" defense. By the power of ISO and like three minutes of reading, I have deduced that I had reason to vote you yesterday!
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 34#2119134
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 76#2131476
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 83#2131583
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 57#2134657
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 14#2142614
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 99#2161799

[Wdjat]

Now back to rereading the topic multiple times with different mindsets to see what I can come up with.

This game is dragging terribly. TALK PEOPLE!

@everyone: Who are your top three suspects?

Tell us about your reads first. I bet you got more out of your reread than the opinion that the game is dragging right now.

Also, I don't like this "If I am a cop I investigated X" plan. It potentially outs non-cops to the scum.

[Gheb]

Also, I don't like this "If I am a cop I investigated X" plan. It potentially outs non-cops to the scum.

How?

[Gheb]

Scratch that question. Just realized that we're better off if scum doesn't now.

[kunkstar7]

Also, I don't like this "If I am a cop I investigated X" plan. It potentially outs non-cops to the scum.

If everyone does it then the scum have no way of knowing who really is a cop. It also allows a cop to put out their results without trouble, and these results can be confirmed by their death. I want you to explain how it potentially outs non-cops. It was done in one of my other games, and worked fine.

[Gheb]

Kunk, I asked you a question.

[Lowell]

Kunk's right about this. But it likely won't be a big deal. Clearly mafia had a reason for not targetting me last night (probably they assume a doc), so there's at least one person between any other "outed" cops and a NK.

[kunkstar7]

Kunk, I asked you a question.

Hi, I actually answered it. Maybe not in depth as you would like, because it was based mostly off of gut feelings at this point.

[Gayle]

Disregarding Hewitt for awhile, my suspects are Dana, Kunk, and Jacob.

Dana

voted Kyle as a pressure vote, but kept it until the lynch. He claims that he didn't

actually

want to lynch Kyle, but this is unlikely (in my opinion) as he kept his vote when Kyle was put at L-1 and even defended the wagon when I questioned it.

Kunk

voted kyle because "He's been scummy so far, and it fits with what I'm seen from him before" which is rather vague (especially considering Kunk showed no suspicions of kyle before his vote), and to "save the mod some trouble", which is either an excuse or an idiotic reason to lynch someone.

Jacob

simply agreed with Kunk's reason for voting. Much like Kunk, he showed no suspicion of Kyle before the vote. If Kunk is scum, Jacob is likely his buddy and was simply following him.

Vote: Kunkstar7

@Mod:

If you haven't already, please prod the following people. Yes, I realize that I am one of the slackers.
hewitt
The1fifi
JacobSavage
danakillsu

[JacobSavage]

It wasn't suspicion, It was a policy lunch on lurkers

[JacobSavage]

It wasn't suspicion, It was a policy lunch on lurkers