Mini 937 - Mafia on Death Row OVER

[GreenDude]

I read through easjo and I if you would like I will show what certain posts drawed my attention.

With only 2 days or so we have to decide who to lynch. And PEG or wolframhart are about to be lynched. I wouldn't say it's a convenient target, it's a bandwagon like the mafiassk one. And I feel I need to decide between them.

[GreenDude]

Seems like easjo is just a convienant target

It's called a bandwagon.

[GreenDude]

Dang it, it wouldn't post my first post so I posted the second and then the first one pops up and I have to post this one.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

I've just been reading easjo and it seems that he hasn't posted much at all. And not written more than 3 lines.

I think that mafiassk can be perceived in one way to be scummy but if you look at it a different way, there is logical explanations. So I would rather

vote:easyjo

Hmm ... did you bother to look at PEG, wolframhart or any of the others of us with lower activity? Seems like easjo is just a convienant target since others (mostly Deathsauce) have been hitting that drum for awhile.

I know you're asking GD not me, but I feel compelled to give my answer as well.

First of all, there's a difference between lower activity and lurking. The former is what happens when that annoying world full of oxygen impedes our imperative duty to post and has little bearing on one's alignment, the latter is a scummy strategy wherein dodging suspicion takes precedence over other goals. The important difference is that a player who simply posts infrequently is nevertheless capable of giving off tells, while a lurker minimizes that risk. SSK and wolf are the former, easjo and PEG are the latter. On that note, if there was a wagon on PEG I'd lynch him over easjo.

Secondly, yes she's convenient, but now's not exactly the best time to go after inconvenient targets. We got three days to decide on a lynch, so if you're gonna lead the charge on someone right now, you better have a hell of a case backing you up. Unless of course you're trying to be useless by keeping your vote on a player who clearly won't be lynched. Isn't that right PEG?

Thirdly, when you say "others (mostly Deathsauce)", who exactly are the

other

others?

[My Milked Eek]

I've just been reading easjo and it seems that he hasn't posted much at all. And not written more than 3 lines.

I think that mafiassk can be perceived in one way to be scummy but if you look at it a different way, there is logical explanations. So I would rather

vote:easyjo

So,
1) a lurkervote (while ignoring peg and others (like magna said))
2) fence sitting

[Damon_Gant]

I've just been reading easjo and it seems that he hasn't posted much at all. And not written more than 3 lines.

I think that mafiassk can be perceived in one way to be scummy but if you look at it a different way, there is logical explanations. So I would rather

vote:easyjo

Hmm ... did you bother to look at PEG, wolframhart or any of the others of us with lower activity? Seems like easjo is just a convienant target since others (mostly Deathsauce) have been hitting that drum for awhile.

Yeah, what SAMP said with regards to convenience. There's no point going all out for a lynch that will not happen now. Any attempt to lynch PEG at this point is not likely to have enough steam to result in a lynch in the 2 days.

Easjo also happens to be a new level of suspicious compared to the other lurkers as well, as she is lurking and being very anti-town whenever she does post. If an easjo wagon looks like the only way to get a lynch before deadline then I will join.

[My Milked Eek]

Oh lol, forgot to read page 13.

I read through easjo and I if you would like I will show what certain posts drawed my attention.

We're two days from deadline. If you suddenly have a case, post it without asking permission. Seriously.

[DeathRowKitty]

Vote Count A001399

MafiaSSK (4) [Damon_Gant, wolframnhart, MagnaofIllusion, Zodiark13]
easjo682 (3) [DeathSauce, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Greendude]
Zodiark13 (2) [My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8]
GreenDude (1) [pickemgenius]
Damon_Gant (1) [MafiaSSK]
My Milked Eek (0) []pickemgenius (0) []
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! (0) []
wolframnhart (0) []
MagnaofIllusion (0) []
Nachomamma8 (0) []
DeathSauce (0) []

Not voting (1) [easjo682]

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is currently March 29 at 3am EST (8am GMT).

Please notice the deadline is in less than 2 days. However, day will probably not end until several hours after deadline, depending on whether or not I'm awake at 3am that day.

[DeathSauce]

Magna's defense of easjo is noted.

[DeathSauce]

Oh lol, forgot to read page 13.

I read through easjo and I if you would like I will show what certain posts drawed my attention.

We're two days from deadline. If you suddenly have a case, post it without asking permission. Seriously.

+100

[DeathSauce]

OK, my second most suspicious character is Damon Gant.

Two absolutely contradictory reasons:

1) Leading, especially the part about informing the town not to listen to me unless I play his way, but many other instances. (also, repeated references to deadline, trying to build a sense of panic and unreason)

2) Following, statements like "my thoughts exactly".

Seems like he's trying to lead the town and doing so by building mini-alliances by agreeing with others in a creepy way.

[My Milked Eek]

Ugh, we have a day and a half I think? Timezones are confusing.

I wouldn't mind a lynch of:
- zodiark13
- mafiassk
- easjo

Deadline is 33 hours, 8 minutes, and 58 seconds from the time of this post.

-DRK

[wolframnhart]

Post received. I have no excuse for my absence the past couple days, I haven't had a mind set to play much, and as such I apologize to everyone. If DRK needs to replace me I understand, however I am going to try to be more active because I had to replace out of one game and i hate doing that and want to continue trying to play.

I still like my vote on MafiaSSK. As the biggest wagon (by a vote) right now he should be here trying to defend himself and scumhunting, he is doing neither, promising on Tuesday for a big post on Wed and not delivering. This easily can be scum hoping that someone different puts their foot in their mouth and have votes change to said person before deadline, and I am not buying it, not from SSK.

[DeathRowKitty]

Zodiark13 is being prodded.

easjo will be prodded if he doesn't post in the next 3 hours.

MafiaSSK picked up his prod, but is now V/LA due to computer issues.

[Damon_Gant]

OK, my second most suspicious character is Damon Gant.

Two absolutely contradictory reasons:

1) Leading,

especially the part about informing the town not to listen to me unless I play his way

, but many other instances. (also, repeated references to deadline, trying to build a sense of panic and unreason)

2) Following, statements like "my thoughts exactly".

Seems like he's trying to lead the town and doing so by building mini-alliances by agreeing with others in a creepy way.

(Bold is by me)

You're right in that I'm trying to lead the town. However, my motives are much simpler than what your post is implying. I want discussion, because I want to be able to scumhunt and it's very hard to scumhunt in a game of lurkers. I'm trying to create discussion as best as I can.

Also, it annoys me when people think that agreeing with people is scummy because it's an easy option. Sometimes (quite often in fact), as town, you just genuinely agree with what someone has to say. As town, I don't like to keep secrets, I like everyone to know my exact feelings on everything, and if that means agreeing with people, that's what it means.

As for the bolded bit...you're putting words into my mouth. I did not tell anyone not to listen to you at all. I said something along the lines of "How can you expect us to agree with you", I don't think that constitutes telling other people not to agree, just that I don't think you can expect the town to hop by your side with the way you presented your case.

[GreenDude]

I don't like how both MafiaSSK and Easjo are both not here. If mafiassk has computer problems then he might not be here before the deadline. Whilest easjo could be here, but isn't, so I think I is much more fair to lynch someone who can defend themselves than someone who can't.

1) a lurkervote (while ignoring peg and others (like magna said))
2) fence sitting

I didn't say I voted because he was lurking. I'm going to show some posts that I found interesting tomorrow.

Fence sitting? Where do you see that?

[GreenDude]

Mod, could please you fix my quotes?

Fixed.

-DRK

[MafiaSSK]

It's truly annoying just to get to this page. can someone give a brief overview of my case? I will do my best to do the big post on day 2. sorry i got struck by adware.

[Zodiark13]

Sorry all for having to be prodded. I didn't have much to say till 4 am last night, and last time I posted that late, I got quick-lynched.

Now, however, we

ALL

need to be as active as possible.

So I'm scummy because I think someone is scummy?

I've never seen such blatant misrepresentation before...

Explain how.

Hence the reasons I asked.

Then if you realized all of that, why didn't you keep it to yourself?

What's the point of doing that?

How? You can't just call something scummy and not back it up. This also contradicts your point that I'm not pushing for a lynch. I'm trying to persuade others to join.

...by telling them to disregard their scum reads and lynch him for being anti-town. In other words, you're not getting people to join the lynch by showing HOW he's scummy, you're just sitting there and saying "Well... he may not be scummy, but he's anti-town at least, so we should lynch him.

This post was directed at DS, who conceded that, though he didn't see SSK as scum, he did see him as anti town. I still expect people with scummy reads to lynch him for being scummy.

You can't just replace and then throw things like that around with as poor a reason as this. I'll give you then benefit of the doubt and not FoS you just yet.

Why would you wait to FoS? Afraid of how the town would view it if you did?

Because, as I already said, replacements always target me, so your attacking me doesn't hold much bearing in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind a lynch of:
- zodiark13

- mafiassk

- easjo

Then get off the wagon going nowhere, and get on the one going somewhere.

It's truly annoying just to get to this page. can someone give a brief overview of my case? I will do my best to do the big post on day 2. sorry i got struck by adware.

You procrastinated for four days, then post this crap?! Was this what we would have expected if you had posted on time?

*walks out of bomb shelter in disgust*

I will give you your summary, but to present to the town as evidence of your scummyness. Give me about 10 or so minutes to go and get it.

[MafiaSSK]

Zodi this is not procrastination. I have to fight through 10+ ads to get here.

[Zodiark13]

Maybe now, but was it 3 days ago?

[MafiaSSK]

Ci senor. I have been fighting this stupid trojan/adware since 5 days ago. It started out 5 days ago then it slowly progressed to its current form. Lag galore, but it's dying away.

[Zodiark13]

Then why promise content when you knew you couldn't provide it? Why not say you were limited because of your computer?

[MafiaSSK]

Because it wasn't as bad back then. Now it is getting pretty bad.

[MafiaSSK]

And by pretty bad I mean pretty annoying. I can make it through as seen here.