ZOMBIES! - Zombies take over for the win!!!

[elvis_knits]

Maybe Yos died protecting somebody?

vote CryMeARiver

Peer pressured into a hammer? Boo.

[xRECKONERx]

Maybe Yos died protecting somebody?

Excellent point. Too bad we don't know

who

or if that's even true, so it's probably not worth it... bottom line is, though, the zombies didn't gain a member last night either way.

I plan on throwing down my case on Starbuck sometime this weekend because she's caused me to raise my eyebrows a few times... but CMAR's hammer was pretty bad.

[elvis_knits]

bottom line is, though, the zombies didn't gain a member last night either way.

How do we know that?

[Pie_is_good]

Well, fuck. I'm 0/2.

Also, manho was a dead man walking. I don't blame CMAR at all.

More later.

[xRECKONERx]

Because I think it would be incredibly overpowered to let the zombies kill and recruit on the same night.

[CryMeARiver]

Seriously? What could I have done? The wagon was turning around no matter what I did. All that could have happened was the day would have lasted a bit longer, but the result would have been the same.
Also, I think it goes that a power role dies if attempted to be recruited. Therefore, only vanilla's can be recruited.

[xRECKONERx]

Where was that stated?

[xRECKONERx]

Just checked the rules and I didn't see it.

[CryMeARiver]

Where was that stated?

I didn't say it was in the rules, it was hypothetical. I clearly stated "I think". This is based off of the fact that power roles have died both nights.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: CMAR

Scumslip.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unless there's SK or vig work at play here, I'm pretty sure the scum tried to recruit Yosarian and failed. Just think about it. They have to recruit a player that is influential enough to help them control the town, especially if that player was seen as pro-town the previous day. Yosarian fits both criteria.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm happy with CMAR, because I hate waiting and stalling.

[animorpherv1]

Wait what? I remember that somewhere in this thread.

Too lazy to check though.

[CryMeARiver]

Wait what? I remember that somewhere in this thread.

Too lazy to check though.

That's what I thought too. But I can't find it, so I thought maybe I had just made it up and used it as the truth in my head.

[ODDin]

reck, let me refresh your memory:

Oh, cult can only recruit VTs? I guess I skimmed over that.

And suddenly CMAR saying the exact same thing is a scumslip?

Also, the rules do say that if scum attempt to recruit a PR then he dies. It follows that scum can only recruit VTs.

* * *

CMAR is scummy for his hammer. He was essentially peer-pressured to hammer. Then he said that if he'd seen my post he wouldn't have hammered, but now he's suddenly defending his actions.
Not to mention that beside not waiting for NS's replacement, the hammer didn't even allow manho to have final words during L-1 (which yos obviously wanted to allow, since he said that in the post he put manho at L-1).

* * *

Still think bv is scummy.

* * *

Thus:

Vote: bv
FoS: CMAR, reck

[ODDin]

P.S. While I agree with ABR's reasoning regarding yos, it's still possible that he wasn't killed by the cult. Yes, killing+recruiting each night is horrendously overpowered. But they can have a one-shot kill, or there can be a rule like "if the bodyguard protects a zombie then he dies", which might mean that yos simply protected the wrong person. So, it's

possible

that scum did recruit somebody, though it's a less likely scenario.

[elvis_knits]

Actually, I've never seen a cultist who could recruit anything BUT vanilla.

[xRECKONERx]

Well I've never played with cult before. But once again, I still don't know where it was stated that cult can only recruit VTs. I really did miss that. I'll

unvote

for now... I was just sure that CMAR had overplayed his hand as scum, but apparently many people knew this rule. I vaguely remembered something, but when I went back to look, I didn't see anything about it anywhere, so I thought CMAR had slipped.

Oh well, back to square one. Starbuck questions/case to come over the weekend in between drunken stupors.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Reckoner why did you safedeposit your vote on me for the entirety of yesterday?

[xRECKONERx]

Who said I'm not going to vote you again today?

As I said, your tunneling on me was awful, and then your quick change of heart was equally as awful.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, the rules do say that if scum attempt to recruit a PR then he dies. It follows that scum can only recruit VTs.

Yes, and this was stated in the signup thread.

[MrSuave]

I TOLD everyone that he just plays scummy >_>

[Starbuck]

Reck, what's with the sudden want to build cases and scumhunt? When you basically just posted nothing but fluff yesterday?

[Albert B. Rampage]

As I said, your tunneling on me was awful, and then your quick change of heart was equally as awful.

No...it was amazing. You're a terrible player.

[Pie_is_good]

I also think it's reasonable to work on the assumption that Yos was recruited. That makes me think whoever recruited Yos was not expecting him to come under suspicion any time soon, so they probably didn't buy into the Yos bandwagon. However, if I recall correctly, everyone who mentioned the Yos wagon was okay with the

logic

behind it, but wanted to keep Yos around if only for his activity. Which implies to me that we should be looking at the people most vehemently in favor of lurker-lynching yesterday.

Perhaps I'm completely off base here, but I'm going to interpret that as a lead and do a bit of poking around. Also I'd still be down to lynch Cooldog.

Also, posting will be dramatically reduced for the next ~4 days.