I was going to put quotes here, but it would stretch this post to unbearable lengths.
Carl Sagan:
Well. An ISO analysis of Carl Sagan reveals that he is largely incoherent, tunnelled extensively, and contributed nothing. He interacted with four people in thread in total. In ISO 4, he supports a post from Julano and asks his opinion. This stands out slightly because made a habit of ignoring the opinions of others for most of the thread. He initially quotes McGriddle in ISO 0, but FoS's McGriddle is ISO 2 because he's a SE. He tunnels against Netopalis as mentioned above. And finally, he is initially suspicious of Fiyr (mentioned in ISO 4, when he supports Julano's support of my post) but then approves of her 'lucid arguments'.
ISO 4 could be construed as him going out of his way to support Julano, going out of his way to avoid supporting me, or just generally being incoherently confusing. I suppose I should be congratulated on locating a small reason to suspect myself. In general, Carl Sagan's incoherence makes it very difficult to draw any semi-reliable information from his posts.
Fiyr
I've gone after Fiyr earlier in the thread, and I had my reasons then. Her play in the beginning wasn't exemplary. She posted some fluff, asked Netopalis a lot of questions, and seemed to buddy up a lot in the thread in the aforementioned fluff. Not to mention defending Netopalis from a joke and an incredibly poor argument.
However, when called out on it she defends herself capably, and does go after Sagan fairly early on. Makes a case on Julano after Netopalis voiced suspicions. She also tries to stop the fight, in fact, she came into the thread with the sole purpose of telling Ythan and McGriddle to stop (would be suspicious, but she showed in ISO 34 that she doesn't like in-thread fighting.)
She's been active, and posted thread analysis a couple of times. Also, she went after Sagan very early on, early enough so that a case of bussing seems unlikely. Neutral leaning town.
Julano:
If one was to do a straight analysis of Carl Sagan, and pretend that he was a normal, competent mafia, then Julano would be suspicious. He defended Sagan from the start, Sagan actually asked for his advice in-thread ... however, Sagan was not a normal scum playing a straight game. Thus, Julano's defence of Sagan (Would someone in the informed minority
really
play like that ... turns out they would) certainly seems reasonable.
Something about ISO 20 bothers me, but I can't quite put my finger on what. Also, Julano's plan to get the townie cleared by cop killed every night (ISO 35-38) - well, of course he didn't announce the plan as being designed to kill whoever the cop cleared, but that is the likely result of telling the cop who to investigate. Plus, when faced with that information, he essentially shrugs and says that it would still be worth it.
Furthermore, his vote on Mariomaster is ... weird. In ISO 35 he says "Mario, as far as I remember I've liked what he's said, though he hasn't said much. Was pro-Carl." On top of the pot calling the kettle black, he voted Mario twice in ISO 41, without adding much (read: any) elaboration onto his suspicion.
He's going into the neutral/scummy pile.
Legions
/
Ythan
/
?
A timeline of the player formerly known as Legions, starting with Legions. People have read his early posts and suspected him of buddying/AtE's, but ... I'm not entirely sold. I dunno, it just reads to me that it's more likely that he's a sucky mafia player with no confidence more than anything. And then he stopped posting. Not a definite mafia read for him, but far from a town read. Neutral on Legions.
Now, to Ythan. Well, he was really active. And at some point, I somehow drew the conclusion he wasn't all too fond of McGriddle. He jumps on McGriddle, and doesn't let up. He has over a hundred posts, all of them focused on McGriddle and describing his apparent loathing of everything about McGriddle. Regardless of alignment, he's certainly coming off as a jerk -_-.
The Ythan/McGriddle fight is one that has the great effect of making both of them seem scummy. Ythan tunnelled to an extreme degree on McGriddle, who seemed to crack under the pressure and was out-argued. Ythan also continually refers to a fantastically logical case based off in-thread activity, which can be found in ISO 1, ISO ... um, 83 maybe? He didn't establish much of a case outside of 'He's scum. He's so scum. I can see all these scumtells, can't you? He's like the scummiest scum that ever scummed'. He does make various one-line aspersions to AtE's, active lurking etc, but surely it wouldn't have killed him to organise those into an actual case as opposed to sniping at McGriddle.
I don't envy whoever replaces in, they'll have a nice job shaking off Ythan who was arguably as helpful as Sagan. Neither of Ythan/Legions seem entirely scum (Ythan does out-argue McGriddle, albeit with all the grace and subtlety of a steamroller) but combined ... yeah, replacement no. 3 will have a fun time.
Mariomaster777
Establishes himself early as a conservative player who would rather avoid mistakes. Not the greatest or most helpful self-meta, but it seems honest. Concerned with making sure he posts enough to stay alive. However, the content he's posted has been of some quality. He was pro-Sagan, but I just haven't been able to analyse any of his posts and say 'damn, that's scummy/illogical/just plain wrong'. Well, aside from thinking Sagan was town, but the reasoning was solid.
Although, in ISO 34 he said he wouldn't disappear, and that he would post more in the following days and that he would have more to say. That was around three days ago.
Still, townish read.
McGriddle
Oh good, the other end of the lovely fight. Gets himself in trouble early when he says he only starts going hard when pressured. Certainly seems to buddy to Neto at the start, "No. Nothing other than the fact that he is being a great IC. Good job Netopalis
" He's established early on that he doesn't see himself as a great mafia player.
Reading through McGriddle's posts, I kinda see where Ythan was coming from. Kinda. He posts a lot of fluff and seems anxious to avoid being the aggressive player he initially claimed to be (haven't seen any McGriddle smashes yet). Appeals to emotion a lot in the Ythan fight, and suspected Netopalis for being too nice. Plus he just gets confusing towards the end of Day 1. In ISO 76 he unveils his new plan where everyone pretends to be the cop. He really likes it, and nobody else seems convinced.
A little rich of him to claim that he caught both scum, but that probably doesn't have much bearing on his alignment -_-.
In summary, I'm not sure on McGriddle. His play hasn't been commendable, as shooting down Sagan's 'logic' is an action akin to shooting fish in a barrel. And while Ythan wasn't exactly reasonable, he could have handled it better.
Neutral leaning scum read.
Netopalis
Ah, it can't end well when the helpful IC just happens to draw the power role. As if they weren't already an NK magnet. Is friendly and buddy-buddy in the beginning. Neto has a nice run of pacing the town, maintaining and helps to regulate the game. Can't help but figure that the Ythan/McGriddle fiasco wouldn't have happened with Neto still in the game.
Netopalis was fairly open with his suspicions, which helps post-mortem analysis. He was with Ythan in lynching McGriddle (until Sagan obviously began phoning it in), and Netopalis was actually reasonable about it. Other suspicions were Legions and Julano (though that one was smaller). Something to keep in mind.
Unsight
And we're finally at the end. My head hurts.
This may be that I'm too tired to process scumtells but I'm really liking Unsight's play at the moment. He's scumhunting from the beginning, very involved, making sense, possibly the first to raise a coherent suspicious question against the IC when play seemed in danger of being centred around Neto's opinion. Plus, I think that ISO 44 was when the Sagan lynch went from being the sideshow to McGriddle/Netopalis/Ythan fighting to a lynchable option. Which, as shown, worked out pretty well.
Town read.
So, after this mind-breaking labour, we are left with this list, ranked from least suspicious to most suspicious.
Unsight
Mariomaster
Fiyr
Julano
McGriddle
Legions/Ythan/?
