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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:14 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Yea I'd love to see this prod finished and I'm truly filled with shock and or awe at how these lines have came down.
Could you care to explain that?

Actually, more I would like to see what you see as the current lines.

Who do you see as most strongly supporting KMD?

Who do you think is town?

Scum, other than KMD?
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:30 pm

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What is there to explain?

No one is awesome enough to "support KMD" without him coming in to defend himself. But, oddly enough, you and Anon (the ones I think are far, far more likely to be scum than Reck) seem to be looking for the excuse to vote me (see the allusions to some kind of shocking revelation from Anon and the difference in how you and reck have approached this today).

So, yea, that was dripping with sarcasm. If it wasn't for the whole, ya know, tracking KMD to Parama I'd be worried about the building lylo mislynch I'm watching.

Regardless, Reck-scum makes little sense and at this point pretty much if thats the case its a win.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:35 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Regardless, Reck-scum makes little sense and at this point pretty much if thats the case its a win.
I can go with that actually. Though I was suspicious of Weaboo. :( hmm I guess I'll need to look at the whole thing :(

Anyway, I was pretty sure about Anon being town, Yos flip has me worried though so I'm not supporting Anon.

Anon was pretty sure of you being scum, SpyreX, which convinced me for a bit. now I'm not so sure.

KMD I don't ever remember having a good read on.


Over all I'm thoroughly dissatisfied. right now, and I'd need to hear more from everyone else before deciding anything.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:57 am

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Almost seems too convenient. Spy has a "guilty" in LYLO.

Problem is he's right about who I visited.

May as well claim. I'm a doc:
N1:camn
N2:Drip
N3:Drip again
N4:Drip
N5:Spy
N6:Parama

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camn-Hadn't read the game entirely, but camn looked town and before the game started, she talked about being killed N1 pretty often and we agreed that we wanted to play more than a Day together, so I protected her.

Drip-She was so obvtown it wasn't even funny. When Dramonic claimed his innocent results on her, it made her an even better protect target. Why not Dramonic? He was a lynch target, so him dying overnight wouldn't have been the end of the world.

Spy-Claimed tracker, duh.

Parama- Dramonic's other innocent died the night before. Seemed like the most likely target to me.

So Parama dying tells me I was obviously roleblocked.

Right now, I'd say Pulindar for the last scum, but we need to massclaim first.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:01 am

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I've already said I'm VT.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:02 am

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Just need Reck and Anon then unless I missed claims from them somewhere.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:04 am

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I'm VT.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:24 pm

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Im also a VT.

Okay, here is where I am now. Pulindar is town. Doing an iso will reveal that Nika attacked Mab like crazy, that Nacho also pushed hard against him and then he called him town for no apparent reason. I definitely dont see both scumbags interacting that much with a scumpartner. All the rest of you is giving me a bad vibe.

First, thats exactly what I was not liking about the rushed Spyrex vote. He having a tracker result on kmd didnt mean 100% he was scum. In an scenario of both of these guys town, scum could have hammered kmd for the win. Spyrextown should have known better.

Second, kmd, did you breadcrumb or something itt? Also why do you keep thinking that a proven power role means that the player is confirmed town? With the amount of power roles so far, a scum tracker is at least plausible.

Third, reckoner why did your hydra spend the game softclaiming something?

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The good thing is that since scum didnt hammer, that means that one of Spyrex and kmd is at least confirmed scum.

Doing a massive reread to check something.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:59 pm

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If you were roleblocked how would I have seen you visit?

Not buying in the least.

As for Anon: Yea, watching someone visit the dead player with what we've seen is pretty much 100% gonna be scum. It sure as hell isn't the doc. Nice try though.
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:24 pm

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I think that with that incongruence its even more painful obvious that one of you is lying about the other.

Anyways, even though Im not sure who I believe yet, what bothers me is that your result didnt mean kmd was scum 100%. Not only kmd could have been the doc, assuming he is telling the truth. There is like another dozen possibilities that could have you given the same result you got yesterday night, other than scumbag doing the kill. I dont like that vote. You could have waited at least to see if any of these remote but still, possibilities would apply.

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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:29 pm

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If KMD had visited someone alive or if, ya know, it wasn't visiting the cleared confirmed player yes it would have been a different conclusion.

However, watching someone visit Parama, the cleared, who is dead. Yea, not sure what mysterious hijinks you were waiting for.

And this being it reeks of hoping KMD claimed something that made sense. Like, ya know, not doc.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:01 pm

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Anon -

The softclaim was an idea Kise & I had because we were sure Ythan was scum. We thought maybe we could draw a night kill by softclaiming some kind of investigative role, but it didn't work, so we dropped it. And Ythan not being scum was also unfortunate... I guess I'll need to get used to his playstyle.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:09 pm

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Anon, no, I very rarely crumb at all. I suck at it.

And I wasn't assuming Spy was town because of his claim. I assumed he was town because that was my read on him all game. Looking over his claim, his targets made sense for town. A claimed tracker who looked town seemed like the most obvious protect target there was.

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Spy, not sure. All I know is you claim I visited Parama and that's who I targeted.

And why, as scum, would I claim doc of all things in this situation? That makes no sense from a scum perspective. The only reason to claim doc is that I'm, well, a doc.

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I still say Pulindar is the best lynch. If he's not scum, Reck is. I've had a town read on Weaboo all game. And you all know my stance on Anon and Spy.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm

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We know for sure that one of KMD or SpyreX is lying at this juncture, and it's LyLo, so I'd rather lynch from those two.
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm

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Well, it's *probably* LyLo anyway. Assuming 5 scum.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:22 pm

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Shit, I'm not sure why, but I was looking at one scum left in that last post. Pulindar/Reck are probably both scum.

Also, assuming that either me or Spy is lying because of no quickhammer is probably bad. Looking at times of posts, I haven't seen two of Anon/Pul/Reck online near the same time, so they haven't really had a chance to pull together a quickhammer. Reck pushing that is scummy.

I'm pretty much prepared to lynch either Pul or Reck right now.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:25 pm

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Actually, it's because SpyreX claimed he tracked you, and you claimed roleblocked.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:35 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Actually, it's because SpyreX claimed he tracked you, and you claimed roleblocked.
Meh. I protected Parama. I assumed roleblocked when I saw his death. Knowing Haylen, I guess there's other possibilities.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:56 pm

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I've got a real, real hard time stomaching watching a doc visit a dead target.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:15 pm

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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:42 pm

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Welp...

Good game scum...
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:04 pm

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Thats only two votes.

That said thats not what I would have expected.

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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:06 pm

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...

SpyreX.

You yourself said you know he's lying because you tracked him to the victim and he claimed roleblocked. Literally, this makes no sense, unless this is some weird modding.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:08 pm

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I know I'm just trying to parse out what the hell is up with the "welp, good game" at two.

Last ditch effort I suppose.

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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:10 pm

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Just realized..

No vig claims.

We must have an SK.
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