Mini 928 - Bloodlust Mafia Remix - Over!

[Nachomamma8]

Day 3 Votecount:

Mr.Sandman (1): LlamaFluff
Mr.Suave (3): havingfitz, almightybob, The1fifi

Not Voting (5): Mr.Sandman, Concerned, TehWuicah, almightybob, julienvonwolfe

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Searching for a TehWuicah replacement.

[almightybob]

Yeah let's just get on with this. It'll take God knows how long if we sit around waiting for a replacement.

Revised claim order:

almightybob (claimed VT)
Havingfitz (claimed VT)
Mr.Sandman
LLamaFluff
julienvonwolfe
MrSuave (claimed JailKeeper)
Concerned
The1fifi (claimed Cult Leader)
TeWuicah


Sandman, go.

[LlamaFluff]

I actually have an objection to TW (or replacement thereof) going last. I would prefer he goes before concerned.

[almightybob]

Why? You think getting replaced was a scum ploy to get to claim last? That seems a little unlikely to me.

But I suppose it's possible, and moving him to before Concerned would eliminate said plan without benefiting any scum.

[havingfitz]

Sorry...got tied up with RL over the weekend. Looks like I didn't miss much though.

[LlamaFluff]

Why? You think getting replaced was a scum ploy to get to claim last? That seems a little unlikely to me.

But I suppose it's possible, and moving him to before Concerned would eliminate said plan without benefiting any scum.

I just dont want TW/replacement to claim last, and to claim before Concerned

[Mr.Sandman]

I'm not convinced by this whole thing and I hope unjustifiably so but I'm VT anyway

[dramonic]

Replacement is here!

Anything I should know before I undergo my reread?

[Nachomamma8]

Dramonic replaces TeWuicah, and I have a replacement on hold... So watch your back, guys.

[LlamaFluff]

Im vanilla town

Replacement is here!

Anything I should know before I undergo my reread?

We are massclaiming, your turn

[dramonic]

vanilla town

[LlamaFluff]

Im pretty sure I can claim not-vig for JVN for him, but his turn then concerned

[havingfitz]

Dramonic replaces TeWuicah, and I have a replacement on hold... So watch your back, guys.

Ooo...mod pressure. I like it!

[julienvonwolfe]

Im pretty sure I can claim not-vig for JVN for him, but his turn then concerned

vanilla town, yes.

[almightybob]

Last up is Concerned.

[Concerned]

Vanilla Townie

here, which means there are four scum within this list:
almightybob
Havingfitz
Mr.Sandman
LLamaFluff
julienvonwolfe
TeWuicah

To be honest when I look at this list I really have to doubt my scum hunting ability, I just can't see 4 scum in this list, but all evidence suggest there has to be.

My biggest suspect on day 1 was Cyanide and I'm not really convinced anything Llama has said today has changed my mind, I think if the slot is scum Llama is certainly less obvious about it but that doesn't necessarily prove anything.

He pushed the mass claim pretty hard, and considering how it's narrowed down the suspect list I can't fault him for it but I don't necessarily think it's much of a town tell.

My next strongest suspect is probably sandman, mostly because of sort of "follow-the-leader" attitude of day 1, but I don't really see LLama and sandman being scum together so I'm struggling a bit at this point.

I'm leaning town with Julien, almightybob and Fits, but considering at least one of those players has to be scum of some description I've clearly mis-read

someone

along the way.

I don't have much of a read on the Confidanon/tew slot so I'd like to see a lot more content from the slot.

Otherwise I really need to do a reread when I have the time, expect more substantial contributions from me when term ends on Thursday, lifes still rather busy.

[LlamaFluff]

Thats true (also include yourself)... but there is also at LEAST one scum in this list. Also its three mafia one SK, so its not all one group you are looking for.

Mr.Suave (3+1): havingfitz, almightybob, The1fifi (+sandman from day one which was continued D3 without a vote)

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Also for all the vig stuff, no one could of possibly been vig but *maybe* TW. Just about everyone else would have ended up in a dead Suave.

I guarentee the Suave wagon is scum driven though, especially given all the evidence that he was town due to lack of vig post claim. Why does he have any votes right now for that matter?

[MrSuave]

Indeed. I do t even know why scum would want to push a wagon on me anyway. I'm as good as dead at night.

On a side note,

@Dramonic: wanna replace into my game? It has just started, 6 pages, and someone confirmed and flaked. How about it maaaan?

[LlamaFluff]

Im going to go out on a limb and say that its...

Mafia: Sandman, JVN, Concerned
SK: Fitz

That said I still want the sandman lynch, mostly due to how it should isolate a second scum.

Want to wagon Sandman Suave?

[almightybob]

Vanilla Townie

here, which means there are four scum within this list:
almightybob
Havingfitz
Mr.Sandman
LLamaFluff
julienvonwolfe
TeWuicah

Only from your point of view. The true list is 7 people long.
You're acting like it's an established fact that you're a confirmed Townie here. I don't like that.


Nevertheless, I have good Town reads on Concerned and fitz. I wouldn't be prepared to lynch either of them today. Likewise julien has seemed pro-Town throughout.
(Obviously all three cannot be Town and therefore one of my reads is wrong, but I'm still not prepared to take that chance until we have to.)

I agree that the out-and-out scummiest player has been Cyanide on D1. I think Llama's been a good scum replacement, but my doubts about that playerslot have never really been appeased. A good scum replacement is still a scum replacement.
Sandman or dramonic (formerly TeWuicah, formerly ConfidAnon): when I try to think of something notable they've said or done, I go blank, particularly dramonic's slot. Through the retrospectoscope, they could easily be scum/SK playing it low-key while the Town tie themselves in knots. I wouldn't object to either of their lynches, especially considering that from my point of view 66% of the unconfirmeds are scum.


So to summarise, I will lynch any of Sandman, dramonic or Llama today, with a slight preference for Llama. I will not lynch anyone else today.

[almightybob]

Llama - why have you eliminated TedramAnon from the suspect pool?
Look at the contributions. 7 posts from ConfidAnon (none of which were hugely useful), only 2 from TeWuicah. That doesn't suggest lurkerscum to you? Especially fiven the amount that's come up, there's been far more to talk about than 9 posts' worth over 20 pages.

Also note the attempt in TeWuicah's first post to extract the name of fifi's recruit, which now looks a lot like fishing. I disagreed with this at the time but didn't realise the full implications.

[almightybob]

EBWOP:

Especially

fiven

given

the amount that's come up

[LlamaFluff]

Llama - why have you eliminated TedramAnon from the suspect pool?
Look at the contributions. 7 posts from ConfidAnon (none of which were hugely useful), only 2 from TeWuicah. That doesn't suggest lurkerscum to you? Especially fiven the amount that's come up, there's been far more to talk about than 9 posts' worth over 20 pages.

Process of elim kinda. Ive outlined why sandman is scum, im pretty sure on JVN and Concerned works perfectly as a partner.

It seems textbook scum move here for scum coming from concerned. Starts pushing me, but he keeps his partner as a second suspect just as a failsafe for if I argue him to a lynch instead of me (spoiler, this will happen).

Will keep up the case on Sandman when I have a bit more time to

[havingfitz]

OK...not Vig claims sooooo:

Unvote: MrSuave

fock.

That's two players I have had stronger suspicions towards claiming with no counters. Hate to keep flakey/scummy players in the game but at least we can consider them town. As someone mentioned...that leaves 4 scum in two groups within 7 to uncover. Cyanide was suspicious to me whilst still in the game but Llama has done better. I need to start re-reading a bit as none of the six unknowns to me, other than perhaps Dr Cyanide, had been that high on my scumdar.

[dramonic]

Okay, I need a few things clarified (havent done a reread yet)

Why in the name of god was there a NL day 1?
Why are we only getting 1 kill per night when we have a mafia and a SK?