Mini 941: (Almost) No Rules Mafia (Game Over)

[Hoopla]

unvote, vote: UK

I always wanted to kill a banana but if UK is good then i can do that tomorrow.

You know that we don't find out alignments of each player until they're both dead, right?

[zoraster]

Day 1 Vote Count

Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) xvart
UncertainKitten ( 4 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia CooLDoG Espeonage
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 1 ) DocPotter
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Bananas ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Not Voting ( 3 ) DedicatedScribe FishytheFish Zang
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Fishythefish]

From Banana's play, UK is much more likely to be the scum JOAT. As scum JOAT claiming would be really, really odd - even if a UK lynch was guaranteed, I'd rather be hidden if I was scum with every power in the world. It's still a risk to leave him alive, and it may well be right to lynch him tomorrow. But for today, the right move is a UK lynch.

vote: UK

Bananas:
1. Is the role PM UK posted the same as yours (please check for small changes)?
2. If you have a way of confirming you are not the scum JOAT, use it tonight. Even if you have a more useful power.

[Fishythefish]

http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/jscrypt.html is good. Everyone should do this now:

1. Hit Generate
2. Copy & Paste the Key to somewhere where you won't lose it (preferably notes)
3. Enter your role unambiguously in
   Plain Text
   box (e.g. Vanilla Townie)
4. Hit "Encrypt"
5. Copy & Paste
   Cipher Text
   into thread

So I would end up posting:

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ ASIAE MUMDL XDCUH QBMTQ VWUCR VEIOI ACJWT DIRWW JGKIV QVQFB
PHQDB FFIQK ONUTV LFLJO FIPIG VGNWP PPNLC QNGJO EBEUA UANWO WBADX
ERBGK USJPQ UMBJJ EOOFP OJOZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

in the thread.

Then, when someone is forced to claim, they post their Key in the thread. To verify a claim, simply copy & paste the above into

Cipher Text

, then copy & paste provided Key (in this case, BXBCN-BHZZR-ZEWBW-LTABK-YGCZX-NGWCX-PUKOJ-CWLHN-KKCDV-GPDIW-OFBVT-DNHOA) and Hit Decrypt. Role should appear in

Plain Text

box.

---

On another note, players could effectively daytalk by using Public-key cryptography to establish a shared key between them, and then encrypting messages to each other in thread. (People will be able to see that you're talking to someone if you address your messages; if you don't, then everyone will have to try & decrypt it with their key.) If people are interested, I'll dig something up.

This is a good plan.

Here's my roleclaim:

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ CVJUN LSOAG UXNBF OFFKS WUKQR HVVEJ WDMUI TIKXC JJNIU AOQRJ
WTADW GKDUJ VNCAU EFJIN VISOR TAMRT QEKUC GXHLK RVVGB QDOJR DTPGH
MXLIC UCHRP FLCDC GBNBF HLRZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

[Zang]

N##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ VNLRN BNRUV EXHAQ GSDPH UFTAA GJSQC TCHFT CONSF ISBJA DTISF
GGMDE XKEMW SMSTR PUIIU GDWNA UUPTW NEBPU LQLWD QGXUV QEKLN XQDHS
DQGXD RACEL DPBFS WNVCF ONLZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

[Zang]

There is not supposed to be a N before #

[CooLDoG]

mind giving out an un-corrupted message?

I like a UK lynch today... He seems to be playing the most scummy (off of a re-read) and my gut tells me that this isn't a bad lynch.

I will have more latter I urge to put UK at l-1 to see how he reacts.

[animorpherv1]

unvtoe, vote UK

once again.

[Fishythefish]

@ani: you misspelled "unvote".

[UncertainKitten]

mind giving out an un-corrupted message?

I like a UK lynch today... He seems to be playing the most scummy (off of a re-read) and my gut tells me that this isn't a bad lynch.

I will have more latter I urge to put UK at l-1 to see how he reacts.

Yes, she is probably a better lynch than bananas D1, since comparative play analysis gives her a slightly higher chance of being scum, objectively.

Nothing new to add as I've already claimed, or should I do the encryption anyway? Seems pointless.

[Bananas]

Post 3/5

Actually, there is no need to waste a lynch on UK.

She has treestump - as do I. The ability to remove our votes and powers.

@UK: Please confirm or deny that the town JOAT has treestump.

Demand her treestumping today. If you want to, demand mine as well - but I suggest you give me at least one night to do something useful. If you want me to, I'll treestump tomorrow morning.

[UncertainKitten]

I can confirm that town JOAT has treestump.

I'll admit that I didn't expect to have to use it. I'd prefer both bananas and I treestump (and honestly should have thought of that in the first place...I'm kinda sucking at strategy this game), but of course, if a majority of town demands it, I'll do it.

[animorpherv1]

@ani: you misspelled "unvote".

[Zang]

I personnaly think that everyone (except for maybe UK) should do a crypted role claim.

[animorpherv1]

I personnaly think that everyone (except for maybe UK) should do a crypted role claim.

I didn't understand that crypted role claim.

[Fishythefish]

unvote

UK should treestump. I'm inclined to give Bananas one night to confirm himself/use a power.

Re: claims; it's very easy. Go to the first website linked in the Elmo post I quoted. Type in anything you would want in a role claim into the "plaintext" box, and a password into the "key" box. Press "encrypt". Paste what comes out here, and save the exact password. The whole process will take less than a minute.

When you want to claim, you give us the password, and we see your roleclaim.

There is no excuse not to do this. It is totally secure, and will lock scum into claims now. Let's get it done.

[animorpherv1]

OK, done.

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ SNNTX GNTIE AIBQO SPXSV AUHDV HGTED PWIGG UCGGX IXCQT TOIQJ
CBTXL NLGQU WGDIP FXCKJ XGQJD KGPQT GTFUR PCDMO BCHFW XPVLH HPQAC
CUBJE QAHBJ ATLXA CGAKA FHKHW RSAMQ PTVBE KKPBV XHQQD NMIPU DWPGT
SCCUJ EJKLQ SRUGJ GNRED ONNRC MGVBF KHMXV JKFME CTLNK QBFKF DQDJV
ELFIN GQDHJ REWSL CPCIT XQSHR TIXKX LUSIT WQFLQ KNADR BVMDM GXCJU
FRMLP AEVWC GBNDU MULKC LSANI CWEUV SNHVJ XUGGJ MCGIM KXNXH PBOFJ
UKGOU TWAIN KRNGC UPFDR SUDEW SFBEE HMOIG QBQSD MKLLV UCKRO LEMVB
PSQSN OXAFF ARKKD HVPLA EIDKX NGIUS UWVBV RDPUC GQBCL ALSBV SUGOP
IWGWA DMTCA JIOAM UJKHG KGPFT WDXRP VMKEV QHKEU GFEUH HCCDH EUDUA
BTLDR PHOHU UWTAS QUPQT IPLQQ ECFGK QPTFN OCLKP PSEUE KQGOD LKNDZ
YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

[Fishythefish]

Ah. A thought strikes in response to ani's claim.

Some people will have short roleclaims, and some long - and this is reflected in their cipher. Doesn't necessarily have much bearing on importance or anything else (the claims "cop" and quoting a cop role PM are pretty different in length), but it's still something I'd prefer not to be public information. I'd suggest that from now on, everyone pad out their claim with anything they like (should be english text though).

My apologies, I really should have thought of that before.

[animorpherv1]

Ah. A thought strikes in response to ani's claim.

Some people will have short roleclaims, and some long - and this is reflected in their cipher. Doesn't necessarily have much bearing on importance or anything else (the claims "cop" and quoting a cop role PM are pretty different in length), but it's still something I'd prefer not to be public information. I'd suggest that from now on, everyone pad out their claim with anything they like (should be english text though).

My apologies, I really should have thought of that before.

Mine needed to be that long. Also fulffing out your cipher would be nice, but if you want to re-do it, give the key to BOTH.

[Zang]

Wait, I just did a claim, should I also have done my role pm?

[Fishythefish]

No, it's fine. No need to do a PM, no need to fluff out the cipher. People who haven't done them yet are the ones who need to fluff out the ciphers.

[DedicatedScribe]

Hm...

[DedicatedScribe]

I think we are making this too complicated. There's no need to go out of your way to make this more complicated than it is, just because you can ^^.

Why encode a role claim you're posting in this thread?

[Espeonage]

Why does the roleclaim need to be encrypted if the password is public?

[Zang]

The password isn't public and you encode a role claim so that you can claim at l-1 by posting the key.

And dedicated scribe-what are your thougts on the game besides theese two your only other post I believe was your confirmation.