Mini 935 -- The Fountainhead (Completed)

[Porkens]

No reason not to go with this as everything sits.

Vote: DDD

AGM: Full claim now.

This would be your move.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

What do you mean "another" DDD? Linkz, plz.

Second String Muppets Mafia

Day two rolls around (page 17/18); a cop claimed on me and got me lynched. Then I flipped town and he was NKed and was indeed a cop, but in post-game when the role PMs were posted what a surprise, he wasn't sane.

~~~

AGM: Full claim now.

And I would do this why?

So you have to actually stand behind something; instead of this nebulous bullshit you've put together. So when I get lynched and flip town you can't then tomorrow claim "sorry guys, VT here just seeing who would wagon him and it got away from me". And so I know which lie or delusion I actually need to counter and so the town can evaluate what you're saying and we can find the

truth

of the matter as to not put those town into a huge hole tomorrow.

~~~

And of course Zang and the rest of you idiots just blindly follow him. What an innane attitude to have and it's completely counter-productive, do you people have no innate skepticism?

[Kthxbye]

No reason not to go with this. DDD's posts seem like scrambling scum so here's the quickest day I've ever partaken in.

Stop, hammer time!

Vote: DDD

[HowardRoark]

There are those in this world who try to crush the spirits of others. There are those who cannot see what is lost when innovation is suppressed. I have a great difficulty understanding these people . . .

Final Vote Count -- D2

Debonair Danny DiPietro (6) -- AlmasterGM, d3x, cruelty, Zang, Porkens, Kthxbye

Not Voting (4) -- Debonair Danny DiPietro, Budja, Fate, RedCoyote


Debonair Danny DiPietro --

Roleblocker

-- The Dean -- Lynched Day 2


It is now N2. Deadline is 18 MAR 2010 4:00pm UTC. (Deadline)


Day 2 ended 36 days early; 18 days will be added to tomorrow's day phase.

[HowardRoark]

New York . . . 1929 . . .

I have just completed and opened the Enright House. Although most people, including his wife, can not or will not see the beauty, the house is what it was to be.

Vote Count -- D3

Not Voting (9) -- Budja, Fate, Kthxbye, d3x, cruelty, Zang, Porkens, AlmasterGM, RedCoyote

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

It is now D3. Deadline is 28 APR 2010 4:15am UTC. (Deadline)

[Zang]

Newb moment-

Yes! My first time ever in day 3!

[Porkens]

Cop claimed, got scum lynched, and didn't die.

Wellllll huh.

Anyway, I'm assuming the mafia didn't have TWO roleblockers, soooo AMG, what's up?

[AlmasterGM]

Nobody died. This means they probably tried to kill me and failed.

[Kthxbye]

...or amg isn't a cop...or a ton of other scenarios.

I'm going to assume you have no further info for us AGM?

[Budja]

Well I believe Almaster at least deserves the benefit of the doubt for now .

[d3x]

...or amg isn't a cop

Do you have a basis or reason to suspect this?

Also, I don't think AGM claimed Cop anywhere. Your light RoleFishing has been noted.

[Zang]

agreed

[Kthxbye]

Lol. Wow did you guys take that wrong. Well, Budja and d3x did anyway, Zang just likes to agree with stuff. What I meant was that there are other roles that can catch scum (ie. watcher, tracker, etc). d3x, you said it perfectly when you said AGM didn't claim anywhere. I could care less what role it is as long as it works. Note I also didn't ask or even hint that I cared. You also ignored the second half of the line you quoted where I said "...or a ton of other scenarios" such as the other roles I just mentioned. The light RoleFishing comment is a tad ridiculous, unless you took the meaning of my post as anything other than how I just explained it.

Zang: care to explain in your own words why my post would be considered "light RoleFishing"?

[Zang]

I was agreeing with budja

(d3x and my post where 1 min apart)

[Budja]

@Kthx, your post taken in context with the one's above seem to indicate that the option of AGM "not being a cop" could be why he was not killed.

Why else did you mention it?

[Kthxbye]

My bad then. Did not look at time hacks.

Modified question then. Do you think d3x was justified in his light RoleFishing note on me before I clarified p308?

[Budja]

vote Kthxbye

[d3x]

The light RoleFishing comment is a tad ridiculous, unless you took the meaning of my post as anything other than how I just explained it.

Not only is this what happened, but I'm still not ok with your explanation. This coupled with my p273, I'm happy with my

FoS

on you.

With his continued deliberate lack of ScumHunting or being proTown in any way, I'm also comfortable with this...

Vote:Zang

[Zang]

I

My bad then. Did not look at time hacks.

Modified question then. Do you think d3x was justified in his light RoleFishing note on me before I clarified p308?

I thought he was accusing you of rolefishing because of your post 308, but no I don't think you were rolefishing, I believe that you were explaining that there are different possibilities other than him being a cop.

[d3x]

Oh yeah, before you accuse me of ignoring you some more...

You also ignored the second half of the line you quoted where I said "...or a ton of other scenarios" such as the other roles I just mentioned.

This only reinforces my point on your RoleFishing. Allow me to demonstrate...

"...or a ton of other scenarios"

such as the other roles I just mentioned

.

*Emphasis mine. Explain how this isn't RoleFishing.

Preview Edit

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@Zang- who is "he" in the following quote?

I thought he was accusing you

...snip

[Zang]

He is you

[d3x]

@Zang- Ok, so are you saying that in p311, you thought I was accusing Kthx of RoleFishing and you didn't agree with it?

[Zang]

Post 311 was agreeing with budja not you.

[Porkens]

I'm a tad confused here, Kthx. I thought your reason for saying "maybe he's not a cop" was perfectly obvious (see Zang 318, of all things), but when pressed you avoided the questions and just repeated repeating that you weren't Rolefishing. In fact, you go so far as to attack the person that said you were rolefishing. Makes me think you actually

were

Rolefishing.

Vote: Kthx

However, D3x, why didn't you accuse me of rolefishing?

[Kthxbye]

Alright, maybe somebody should explain the exact definition of role fishing. If someone has a link to it on MS wiki, I'd appreciate it as I can't find it by looking up rolefishing, role fishing, fishing, or fishing of roles. Stupid me seems to think it's trying to find town PR's when they aren't known.

If this is close enough, both d3x and Porkens get to explain how I'm doing this because I simply don't understand. I think it's pretty obvious AMG somehow knew DDD was scum. He was right. There are multiple roles that can do this. I don't see how pointing this out and asking for more news (oh, i dunno, another scum hit) is scummy. Explain away boys.

Budja: I'm not sure what you asked me nor did I see it before my p315 (look at time hacks). Mentioning it was in reference to Porkens p306 where he said we had a claimed Cop. p308 was me stating that AMG didn't claim Cop and there could be other reasons how he got the info, not that his role is the reason he lived through the night. I actually believe he was correct in his statement in p307. Come to think of it...

d3x: interested in your answer to p323. I would think p306 would be rolefishing...as you know, it has a question directed toward an unclaimed PR and all.

Budja: Care to explain your vote?

Porkens: Are you saying I attacked d3x because I think the claim is ridiculous? I would think an attack would be accusations and FoS's and the like. I don't think I'm attacking you or d3x at all. reason below.

Also note, that those not on the lynch of DDD are my personal first suspects. (Budja, Fate, RedCoyote). Saying this out loud so to speak is prolly gonna land me some heat, but it makes logical sense and I'm wondering why it's not being done. Note this includes someone who currently has a vote on me and even though I feel d3x and Porkens are off base with this fishing thing, they aren't the most suspicious of the 3.