Newbie 920: Mafia in Newbietown (Game over! Town wins!)

[Unsight]

Mario tries to protect Carl

Carl Sagan

We've discussed Carl Sagan's interesting style of posting for quite some time. But I want to look at post 224. It seems very early to ask for doctor protection. In my opinion he is actually pro-town because of this. He could be the investigator or could be overly confident in his reading abilities. I don't think he's scum because asking for doctor protection in itself raises a red flag. It would be a

VERY VERY unusual move

to ask for protection since you are likely NOT to get it without more proof. Why ask for it if he is scum? So I think Carl Sagan is pro-town.

I still think it's a mistake to lynch Carl Sagan. I'll stick with my original reasoning behind my believe he is pro-town. Carl hasn't provided any new information for me to go off of, and I still do not feel comfortable making a "shot in the dark" lynch.

Itsa Mario's turn to do some 'splainin'.

Vote: mariomaster777

[Netopalis]

Well, blast. Good luck, everybody!

[Fiyr]

Well, I think I need to analyze all of day one. Sorry if I am gone often.

Sorry I was absent for the lynch btw.

[Ythan]

Morning all.

[Stephoscope]

On the table there is a first aid kit and a Stephoscope.

:O

[Ythan]

vote Stephoscope

[Ythan]

I'll put my two hundred cents in here before too long. Since the day's just started and we have plenty of time before the DL I'm allocating my labor elsewhere today. Unsight can vouch.

[Zachrulez]

On the table there is a first aid kit and a Stephoscope.

:O

Your presence on the site has ruined my ability to ever spell that word correctly.

[McGriddle]

Bahaha. This is my favorite game.

Fyir I am just waiting on your analysis

[Ythan]

Bahaha. This is my favorite game.

Fyir I am just waiting on your analysis

That's all that you're doing?

[Julano]

SO we have a cop. That's the good news. Unfortunately they can't claim.

Left in:
Julano
Fiyr
Mario
Fluffy
Ythan
Unsight
McGriddle

Me I know to be town, but you'll have to make up your own minds.
Fiyr was the first vote on Carl, but took it off soon after McGriddle joined in. Nevertheless, he was against Carl right from the start.*
Mario, as far as I remember I've liked what he's said, though he hasn't said much. Was pro-Carl.
Fluffy also hasn't said much. Hammer vote on Carl Sagan. Not sure.
Ythan I suspect to be town, since as a new joiner he could have swing the vote away from Carl Sagan I think.
Unsight I would hope is town from his behaviour. Was the third (second in bandwagon) vote on Carl after quite a while, arguably got things moving again.
McGriddle was the second vote and kept it up for the rest of the game except a short time on me. Townish voting? I have changed my mind.

Town:
Ythan
Unsight
McGriddle

Other:
Fiyr
Mario
Fluffy

An idea: how about before the lynch we agree on who the cop investigates? e.g. we ask the cop to investigate Julano, and if in the morning the cop doesn't claim, we know I am innocent?

Vote: Mariomaster

Cop: please investigate Fluffy.

*the kind of line that has been highlighted as whishywashy in the past. Oh well.

[Ythan]

If we agree on who the cop should investigate in the thread and it's a townie they'll be killed, meaning no confirmed townie. However if we have an inexperienced cop, and we have no way of knowing that, it may be beneficial to advise them. Which of these points is weightier I am not sure of.

[Julano]

True, hadn't thought of that.

Still, 'twould force the mafia to kill a suspect.

[Ythan]

True, hadn't thought of that.

[Julano]

Maybe that's not worth it actually, we'd still be in the dark about everyone alive.

[Julano]

On further reflection I think we should.

Cop: please investigate Fluffy.

[Ythan]

Further reflection? I'd enjoy insight.

[Julano]

Well, nothing new really, just weighing up the options.

1. If we ask the cop to investigate a specific player, we can find out said player's alliegence without the cop claiming.
If the mafia kills that player, we cut down on the suspects but we DON'T end up with a confirmed, alive townie.

2. Either that or the cop plays independently and must decide if and when to claim.


Who are your top suspicions at the moment, Ythan?

[Ythan]

No one player really sticks out of the heap. I'm going to be doing some heavy reviewing.

[mariomaster777]

Mario tries to protect Carl

Carl Sagan

We've discussed Carl Sagan's interesting style of posting for quite some time. But I want to look at post 224. It seems very early to ask for doctor protection. In my opinion he is actually pro-town because of this. He could be the investigator or could be overly confident in his reading abilities. I don't think he's scum because asking for doctor protection in itself raises a red flag. It would be a

VERY VERY unusual move

to ask for protection since you are likely NOT to get it without more proof. Why ask for it if he is scum? So I think Carl Sagan is pro-town.

I still think it's a mistake to lynch Carl Sagan. I'll stick with my original reasoning behind my believe he is pro-town. Carl hasn't provided any new information for me to go off of, and I still do not feel comfortable making a "shot in the dark" lynch.

Itsa Mario's turn to do some 'splainin'.

Vote: mariomaster777

What can I say except that I was flat out wrong? Just like everyone else I'll be reevaluating day phase 1 and hopefully can come up with some conclusions.

In other news, I have an interview with Ernst & Young tomorrow, so I'll be preparing for that. If you don't mind, keep your fingers crossed for me. I'm in real need of a job before I graduate. Thanks.

[mariomaster777]

Well, nothing new really, just weighing up the options.

1. If we ask the cop to investigate a specific player, we can find out said player's alliegence without the cop claiming.
If the mafia kills that player, we cut down on the suspects but we DON'T end up with a confirmed, alive townie.

2. Either that or the cop plays independently and must decide if and when to claim.


Who are your top suspicions at the moment, Ythan?

Question. What happens if the cop gets killed off during the night? He/she obviously can't claim if he/she did discover the remaining scum. I guess all this means is that even if the town as a whole agrees that a specific person gets investigated, you learn nothing if the cop gets killed off.

Guess it's not a bad strategy since the likelyhood of it returning no help is rare. (and that's a worst case scenario, otherwise we get a confirmed townie or even better the remaining scum when the cop claims.)

[Fiyr]

Fyir I am just waiting on your analysis

Your waiting on the analysis of yesterday's two major cases right?
Sorry, it's way overdue.

Mario, as far as I remember I've liked what he's said, though he hasn't said much. Was pro-Carl.

Vote: Mariomaster

Are you voting because he was pro-carl?

[Fiyr]

*crosses fingers*

[Ythan]

Question. What happens if the cop gets killed off during the night? He/she obviously can't claim if he/she did discover the remaining scum. I guess all this means is that even if the town as a whole agrees that a specific person gets investigated, you learn nothing if the cop gets killed off.

The cop can be killed regardless. Not sure what you're getting at.

[McGriddle]

I have a pretty good idea. How about everyone claims cop at the end of each day, who they investigated, and what it came up as, that way if the real cop dies we know he was telling the truth and the people the cop investigated came up as what he said. And real cop, tell the truth about that person/people.

does this sound pretty fair?