Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Kison]

I don't have a problem with this. As far as I can tell it's two different things that happen to be in one post, unless I'm misunderstanding it.

He was referring to the same paragraph: the only one written by jbernier93. The first time, he used it to support his read on Richard. The second time, he used it against jbernier93 when he started pushing him.

[Ythan]

He first used it as supporting evidence and then attacked it?

[farside22]

@mole: I had my views here about DS. I haven't read everything everyone said in the past few pages and a few things I need to reread. I took the day off of work and chose to sleep and relax today so don't expect much from me today.

[Ythan]

Kison, you clearly see the issue clearly where I do not. Can you give me some quotes?

[Ythan]

Can't we work this out tomorrow. After lynching Lowell.

[farside22]

I have to wonder if lowell got to the part where I caught crypto's slip misinterpreting the town role PM that WRP as the win condition why he still suspects me.

Lowell care to answer that?

[Kison]

Can't we work this out tomorrow. After lynching Lowell.

We still have time.

Kison, you clearly see the issue clearly where I do not. Can you give me some quotes?

Quotes for what, exactly? The horrordude vote from molestargazer I've already covered with quotes. The inconsistency over the jbernier quote I provided links in my big post two pages back, but I'll go over it again.

Day Two, page 46, molestargazer cites a paragraph that jbernier made as part of his attack:

This from ISO 10 raised an eyebrow:

Well, if Ythan's post were really "something sily & of no consequence which lacks sense and/or significance," then you wouldn't bother to go look up which players correspond to the numbers he was looking to.

Surely someone attacking you warrants a response regardless of how apparantly silly it is? Do you not think that a response in that case would be in fact necessary in that pointless attacks could be a scumtell?

Rewind to Day One, page 13, he cited the very same paragraph as part of his backing of his Richard suspicion:

Up until recently, I hadn't paid all that much attention to the content of the Farside/Richard debate about the cop question. Judging from what jbernier noted, as well as what I previously noted about the aggression, I would actually agree with Ythan in that he's on rather thin ice. I will watch developments as I read.

If you click the link in that quote, you'll see that it pulls up the same chunk of text from jbernier that he quoted in his post from day two. And no, I don't think he's referring to another part of it, because there's only one paragraph in there that refers to Richard.

The issue I am seeing is exactly as you say: He used it as supporting evidence, and then attacked it. It's the inconsistency I do not like. It makes one of his Richard or jbernier93 suspicions look contrived.

Now, admittedly, it was not the heart of his jbernier attack, but I find it hard to believe that he'd pull a complete 180 there. Reeks of digging up dirt wherever it can be found.

[Ythan]

I can dig it, that and the other thing I agreed with. I'd like to hear from Mole on this.

[farside22]

Jb: if you recognized that what I was saying was over crypto's head how did knowing that make horror scummier? Especially seeing crypto was the one pushing that wagon the hardest.

[Ythan]

2. MoleStargazer

3. Lowell

4. Dragonfly13, replacing WRP_Beater

7. Kison replacing ace5993

8. JBernier93

10. RayFrostWikiManager replacing RayFrost

Red is more than 50%, usually much more. Green is less than 50%, usually much less.

[Ythan]

Anyone voting farside needs to take into account the fact that she was the one to bust crypto on his slip.

[Ythan]

My mistake, I could haves worn I read her rebuking someone for voting her. Maybe it was just attacks and not a vote.

[Ythan]

OH IT WAS LOWELL. Go figure. Farside OMGUS him with me plz.

[farside22]

OH IT WAS LOWELL. Go figure. Farside OMGUS him with me plz.

He gave me an fos twice in his reads. One for commenting about his anti-town nature and the other was more gut i believe. (will look later to confirm this)

I'm waiting for some answers for both lowell and jb. Something about jb keeps singing at me.

[pman5595]

More lynching Lowell plox

[RayFrostWikiManager]

Hi Kison!

RayFrostWikiManager

- He's made a few relevant posts, but not very many. I have him easily further into the scum category for a single post he made during Day One where he subtly pushed the Richard wagon by claiming there was a high chance he was lying about his role, and that pressure votes should be applied, but then stating that he might not be a good lynch. Very wishy washy and noncommittal.

My reasoning behind that was that I thought he was more likely than not to be lying, but I wasn't willing to push a claimed town power role for a lynch Day 1. I was pretty surprised to find him dead N1. I don't understand the subtle part of it.

- In the same post he throws a vote onto Rikenslope for unexplained reasons.

Is that a scumtell? If so, how?

Votes for ace for unexplained reasons. Later explains these as lurking pressure.

Is that a scumtell? If so, how?

More recently we have him promising to catch up and failing to deliver. How he could seem like a bad vote is beyond me.

That has more to do with me not being used to large game pace and having real life problems. I appreciate being given a chance to catch up.

[Ythan]

More lynching Lowell plox

Please contribute something more than coattail-riding to this thread.

[Ythan]

Is that a scumtell? If so, how?
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Is that a scumtell? If so, how?

I need a new even scummier color for your name.

[pman5595]

More lynching Lowell plox

Please contribute something more than coattail-riding to this thread.

what else should I contribute? I have found my lynch candidate (and found it before you did) and I have no plans to change my vote.

[Ythan]

No smilies, just his posts. So I'll attest some validity to that tell, considering horrordude.

Yeah. Still don't agree with smiley theory.

lol what

[Ythan]

More lynching Lowell plox

Please contribute something more than coattail-riding to this thread.

what else should I contribute? I have found my lynch candidate (and found it before you did) and I have no plans to change my vote.

Yeah but you don't support your stance or provide any content at all.

[jbernier93]

- In the same post he throws a vote onto Rikenslope for unexplained reasons.

Is that a scumtell? If so, how?

*headdesk*

unvote, vote:RayFrostWikiManager

[Ythan]

There are a lot of scummy players. If you want to be pro-town then join a wagon that's going somewhere today, like Lowell's or your own.

[farside22]

jbernier93 please answer the question below.

Jb: if you recognized that what I was saying was over crypto's head how did knowing that make horror scummier? Especially seeing crypto was the one pushing that wagon the hardest.

[Lowell]

I have to wonder if lowell got to the part where I caught crypto's slip misinterpreting the town role PM that WRP as the win condition why he still suspects me.

Lowell care to answer that?

Uh, what? Rephrase, perhaps?