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Mini 941: (Almost) No Rules Mafia (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:35 pm

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The (Almost) No Rules Mafia


Deadline: Monday, May 3rd at 11:00 EDT


Alive for Now
  1. Zang

Dead for now

Day 1:
CallMeLiam the Town Cop Detector was Lynched.

Night 1:
FishytheFish the Neutral Macho Selector and Jack of All Trades was killed.

Day 2:
Hoopla the Mafia Vote Freezer was Lynched

Night 2:
xvart the Word Use Tracker was killed

Day 3:
DeathNote
DedicatedScribe
the Town Vetoer was Lynched

Night 4:
Espeonage the town Sham Tracer was killed

Day 4:
UncertainKitten the Mafia Macho Selector and Jack of All Trades was Lynched

Night 4:
CryMeARiver
DocPotter
the Town EMT was killed

Day 5:
animorpherv1 the Town Gunsmith was lynched

Endgame:
totallynotmafia the Vanilla Townie was killed

Endgame:
Grimmy
CooLDoG
the Town Vote Blocker was killed


Events

Day 1: UncertainKitten was treestumped
Day 1: DeathNote replaces DedicatedScribe
Day 1: CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter
Day 1: CallMeLiam was Lynched
Night 1: Grimmy replaces CooLDoG
Night 1: FishytheFish was killed.
Day 2: Hoopla was lynched
Night 2: xvart was killed
Day3: DeathNote was Lynched
Night 4: Espeonage was killed
Night 5: CryMeARiver was killed
Day 5: Lynch and Endgame
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:53 pm

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Rules


General Information

1. Read the rules. This is important.
2. This is a
bastard setup
. This is mostly due to other players and not the mod, but I wanted to put fair warning.
3. Random.org will be used heavily. In addition to assigning roles to players, it will determine the order that roles are sent out. Roles that are the same (if indeed any are the same) will not be sent out at the same time.
4. Even though this game calls for breaking some normal rules, that does not allow you to break OTHER game's rules or the general conduct rules of this site.
5. Lynching will, unless altered by some role, be done by Majority vote. That is, when 50%+1 votes are placed on a player, that person will be lynched.
6. All conversations with the mod should be done in
Bold

7.
My color will be blue... but you may use it.

8. You may ask to prod a player at any time.
9. Rules may be changed at any time.
10. The moderator has the final say but is not always right. If I've made a mistake on something like a vote count, just bold it and I'll get to it. If you have a problem with the way I'm running the game, rather than making a snarky comment, it is almost always more productive to PM me.
11. Deadlines are 2 weeks for Days (judged from when I open the game) and 48 hours for nights (judged from when I close the game). If the deadline is reached, there will be either no lynch or no action.
12. Unvoting is unnecessary. For a vote to count it must be done in bold:
Vote: Zoraster
. Misspelling vote may (or may not) make the vote not count. Misspelling or abbreviating another player's name when voting will still count as a vote so long as the target of the vote is identifiable.
13. I normally do vote counts appended to the top of each page, but given the mechanics of this game, I will only be posting vote counts from my account frequently.
14. Order of Actions in this game is secret. Sorry.
15. Mafia will receive a fake role pm upon entering the game, but may also request other fake role pms.
16. Role PMs will be revealed upon death.

Actions SPECIFICALLY disallowed by this game

1. Allowing others to access your account.
2. Talking about the game when you are dead unless otherwise allowed by your role.
3. Use of overly abusive, racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. language. Generally personal conduct should be the same as any other game.
4. Players must still play to win
5. Players must still follow the mod's orders.
6. Lying or tricking the MOD is prohibited.
7. You may not pursue anything outside the general ethical expectations on a member. For example, you may not hack into another person's account.
8. Screen captures are NOT allowed. Sorry, I just didn't think this was easy enough to counter.
9. Players not in the game may NOT post.
10.
NEW
Players may not edit posts in this thread.

Actions specifically ALLOWED

1. Conversations about the game may take place anywhere on mafiascum that is
publicly viewable
, but conversations that are private are forbidden unless otherwise allowed by role. Once you are dead in the game, you are prohibited from taking part in conversations anywhere about the game.
2. You may use codes, invisible text, etc.
3. You may pretend to be the mod.
4. You may quote role PMs.
5. You may use a sham or fake account with certain restrictions (listed in its own section).
6. Other things may be allowed, but
should be cleared with the mod first
. Generally to be acceptable, there should be some plausible way for the opposing side to counter the technique AND it should not greatly reduce the enjoyment of the game.

Sham or Fake Accounts

1. You may use sham or "fake" accounts for virtually any reason. However this is restricted.
2.
Before posting with a sham account you must notify the moderator with your real account in the game!
Failure to do so will result in penalty up to and including modkill, power role restriction, force replacement, and other penalties.
3. Any account that posts in the game may be voted for. A lynch on a sham account will lynch the real account of a person. Votes will
not
be combined. Sham accounts cannot, however, be the target of any other actions.
4. You may use no more than two sham accounts per game day and unless noted somewhere else (e.g. a role PM), these accounts may, in total (combined), not exceed 5 posts per game day and never exceed the number of posts made by your real account that game day.
5. Sham accounts (or any other alternate accounts) may NOT talk about the game outside this thread.

win conditionsTown: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.
Scum: You win when all town, sks or any other party that has a win condition contrary to yours is eliminated or nothing can prevent them from being eliminated.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:10 pm

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Role PMs are out. Confirm in thread. Questions about your role are happily accepted.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:23 am

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A quick note: I've told mith that fake accounts are allowed in this game, but to make your life easier and get your account activated quicker, send him a PM with your new account's name.

Remember that you need to inform me of your fake account before posting. It might make your life easier if you tell me at the same time as telling mith, but this isn't required.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:30 am

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Has anyone seen xvart around since March 3rd? I may call in a replacement for him as it seems he's gone AWOL.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:03 am

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Okie dokie. I know that Esp is Australian, and the international date line frankly really confuses me, so I'm going to start the game and hope he shows up shortly... perhaps at 3 or 4 in the morning... in the future. or in the past. However that date line works. Just don't talk to my grandfather, please.

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DAY 1 BEGINS NOW

Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 12 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia UncertainKitten xvart animorpherv1 Zang Espeonage DedicatedScribe DocPotter CallMeLiam FishytheFish CooLDoG
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:31 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 1 ) animorpherv1
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 1 ) Hoopla
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 10 ) totallynotmafia UncertainKitten xvart Zang Espeonage DedicatedScribe DocPotter CallMeLiam FishytheFish CooLDoG
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #51 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:57 pm

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 1 ) animorpherv1
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 1 ) xvart
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG Espeonage
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 1 ) Hoopla
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Not Voting ( 6 ) totallynotmafia Zang DedicatedScribe DocPotter CallMeLiam FishytheFish
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #53 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:39 pm

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It had better not be. I didn't get a PM about it, and as you know, you must PM me with your real account's name so I can link it to your fake account.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:21 pm

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Espeonage wrote:
DocPotter wrote:
You've never played a game with bv310 then?

Voe Espeonage


Some of my favorite Irish pubs are in Sydney, and now and Mardi Gras are the best time to visit them. Bad Epsy
Dude, I'm allergic to beer.
Ceoliac... sucks I know.
My girlfriend drinks cider as there's often no gluten in it (Strongbow is gluten free for example), and it's a good substitute as it's roughly the same alcohol content, looks similar, comes in a similar glass, etc. Just a side note.

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic ... er-on-tap/
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Post Post #62 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:37 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:
Zoraster has committed a rules infraction by imitating a player. You're a mod. Act like one.
Fair enough. Big scary impersonal moderator=on
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Post Post #84 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:48 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 2 ) Hoopla xvart
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG Espeonage
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 4 ) UncertainKitten CallMeLiam totallynotmafia animorpherv1
Not Voting ( 4 ) Zang DedicatedScribe DocPotter FishytheFish
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:29 am

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DiscoRoboto wrote:Is there a role that disallows me from posting?

Request Role PM
9. Players not in the game may NOT post.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:58 pm

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 3 ) Hoopla xvart Zang
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 1 ) FishytheFish
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG Espeonage
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 4 ) UncertainKitten CallMeLiam totallynotmafia animorpherv1
Not Voting ( 2 ) DedicatedScribe DocPotter
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #116 (isolation #14) » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:23 am

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Original Roll String: 1d2
1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2
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Post Post #117 (isolation #15) » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:26 am

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Attention! The Selectors have chosen their sides.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:54 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 3 ) Hoopla xvart Zang
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 2 ) CooLDoG totallynotmafia
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) Espeonage
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 1 ) DocPotter
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Bananas ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Not Voting ( 2 ) DedicatedScribe FishytheFish
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) xvart
UncertainKitten ( 4 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia CooLDoG Espeonage
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 1 ) DocPotter
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Zoraster ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Bananas ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Not Voting ( 3 ) DedicatedScribe FishytheFish Zang
Total Votes ( 12 )

Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #197 (isolation #18) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:22 am

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Day 1 Vote Count

Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 5 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia CooLDoG Espeonage animorpherv1
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Bananas ( 2 ) UncertainKitten xvart
Not Voting ( 2 ) DedicatedScribe Zang
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #237 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:43 pm

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 4 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia Espeonage animorpherv1
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Zang ( 1 ) CooLDoG
Espeonage ( 0 )
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Bananas ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 1 ) Zang
Not Voting ( 2 ) DedicatedScribe xvart
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT


Just a quick plea that i'm not going to enforce or anything. Please don't do the following:

unvote: Zoraster
Just type
unvote
. I know some mods like that for whatever reason, but I find it confusing when doing my vote counts, and it's messed me up before. If you want to clarify for the players who you're unvoting, do it unbolded, please.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:14 pm

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Before:

Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 4 ) Hoopla totallynotmafia Espeonage animorpherv1
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Zang ( 1 ) CooLDoG
Espeonage ( 1 ) xvart
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
Bananas ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 1 ) Zang
Not Voting ( 1 ) DedicatedScribe
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT


After:


Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 1 ) UncertainKitten
Zang ( 1 ) CooLDoG
Espeonage ( 1 ) xvart
DedicatedScribe ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 1 ) Zang
Not Voting ( 5 ) DedicatedScribe Hoopla totallynotmafia Espeonage animorpherv1
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 11 Voting, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT


UncertainKitten has been treestumped.
She may post in the game thread as well as make sham accounts, but she may not vote or use any powers.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:37 am

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@mod: if a person is lynched or NK'ed, do we learn the sham accounts associated with that person? Or do the shams just die a lonely death?
It's a lonely death. Sham accounts are not revealed upon death.

Also, elmo from that other thread brings up a good point, so I'll clarify: for the purposes of win conditions, a treestumped player is considered eliminated.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:35 am

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Mod, is there a penalty for not answering a prod?
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Replacement.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:35 am

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Replacing out DedicatedScribe.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:49 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG totallynotmafia
Espeonage ( 1 ) xvart
DedicatedScribe ( 1 ) Zang
DocPotter ( 1 ) CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) Espeonage
Not Voting ( 3 ) DedicatedScribe Hoopla animorpherv1
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #323 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:30 am

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DeathNote replaces in for DedicatedScribe.


Thanks DeathNote! I'm now looking for a replacement for DocPotter as he's asked to replace out. Tell your friends.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:22 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 1 ) DeathNote
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG totallynotmafia
Espeonage ( 1 ) xvart
DeathNote ( 0 )
DocPotter ( 2 ) CallMeLiam Zang
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) DocPotter FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) Espeonage
Not Voting ( 2 ) Hoopla animorpherv1
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch [edited]
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT


I'll get some prods out. DocPotter is being replaced out. DocPotter asked to be replaced, and this is the second consecutive time he's done that in one of my games, so he won't be invited to my future games.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:57 pm

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CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter
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Post Post #388 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:50 pm

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 1 ) DeathNote
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 2 ) CooLDoG totallynotmafia
Espeonage ( 1 ) xvart
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 2 ) CallMeLiam Hoopla
CallMeLiam ( 2 ) CryMeARiver FishytheFish
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) Espeonage
Not Voting ( 2 ) animorpherv1 Zang
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT


Just a reminder that the deadline is in under 24 hours. No majority = no lynch.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:27 pm

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@ mod: please address the above
Yes. You inform me by PM. It wouldn't make much sense to post about it in the thread then post ;)
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Post Post #422 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:19 am

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Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 1 ) DeathNote
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) CooLDoG
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 3 ) CryMeARiver FishytheFish Zang
FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) Espeonage
hate_me_not ( 4 ) CallMeLiam xvart totallynotmafia Hoopla
Not Voting ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, March 30th at 16:00 EDT
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Post Post #440 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:26 am

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Final Day 1 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) CooLDoG
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
CallMeLiam ( 6 ) CryMeARiver Zang DeathNote Hoopla FishytheFish xvart

FishytheFish ( 0 )
CooLDoG ( 0 )
totallynottotallynotmafia ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) Espeonage
hate_me_not ( 2 ) CallMeLiam totallynotmafia
Not Voting ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch


CallMeLiam the Town Cop Detector was Lynched.


Cop Detector
You are the town cop detector. Once per game you may PM me to ask me how many cops are alive in the game as well as finding out the sanities of any dead cops (which will not be listed… it’ll just say that they were a cop). Please note that the cop detector detects mafia cops (e.g. mafia rolecops) as well as town cops. This does not work on flavor cops.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

Confirm in Thread


Deadline for Night Submissions is 15:00 EDT, Thursday, April 1st.
Any actions after this point will either be randomized or sent as "no action," depending on which makes sense for the role

I should note that yes, you may continue to post here and elsewhere about the game unless you're dead.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:34 am

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Grimmy replaces CooLDoG
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Post Post #474 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:43 am

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THIS IS A WRONG NIGHT SCENE. SEE NEXT PAGE FOR THE REAL ONE. Oops.

There were no deaths last night.


Day 2 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 10 ) animorpherv1 totallynotmafia Espeonage CryMeARiver Zang DeathNote Hoopla FishytheFish xvart Grimmy
Total Votes ( 10 )

With 9 able to vote, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, April 15th at 16:00 EDT



Day 2 Starts Now
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Post Post #486 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:28 am

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I'm an idiot. Scratch the night scene. It'll be posted again soon and fixed. Sorry.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:31 am

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FishytheFish the Macho Neutral Selector and Jack of All Trades was killed.


Fishy's Role PMYou are one of TWO Macho Neutral Selectors and Jack of All Trades. Things are about to get a little complicated so follow along, sweetheart. I’ll break it down bit by bit.

Selector: You may at any time, when there are 6 or more players alive, choose to pick to become either a Town member or a Mafia member. You may do this at any point during the day or night by PMing me with your choice. When you have selected a side, I will post the following message in game: “The selectors have made their choice!”

There’s just one hitch: if the other Macho Neutral Selector picks before you do, you will automatically be placed on the opposite team that that other Selector picked. If both Selectors PM me within 48 hours of Day 1’s start and both have picked the same side, I will flip a coin (via random.org) to pick whose pick actually went through. Thus, selections will not be made before 48 hours has elapsed in the game.

If you die before selecting, you lose.

I should note that if there is more than one mafia team, I will have designed it so that a particular mafia team will be joined by the mafia selector.

Last, your alignment will NOT be revealed until and unless BOTH Selectors are dead.

Neutral: Self-explanatory, but you start off unaligned, so you are neutral. You are essentially a survivor until you select a side, so if you die, you lose.

Macho: Doctors will not protect you. Jailkeepers will only block your role from working, it won’t protect you. Watchers won’t see who visited you. Any other roles that stop kills will be neutralized.

Jack of All Trades: Your powers vary depending on whether you’re Neutral, Town or Scum.
Neutral: You have the following 1-shot powers: Watch* (see who targets a player), Invent* (send me a target and an item. They’ll get a power based on that item. Careful, some items may have the opposite effect of what you might otherwise think!
Town: You have the following 1-shot powers: Role Cop*, Jailkeep*, Treestump**
Scum: You have the following 1-shot powers: Track*, Ninja* (undetectable by trackers and watchers), Roleblock*, Rolecop*, Treestump**

*Nighttime only powers.
**Treestumping: During the day at any time (provided you have not been hammered or are already dead) you may put this in bold Mod: Treestump me! and this will turn you into a treestump. Any votes on you will be reset, but you can still be voted for. You will no longer have the ability to vote. You will have the power to post still. If you are killed or lynched after this point, you are removed from the game as normal.

Win Cons:
Neutral: Survivor. Only wins if alive and game ends with 6 or more players alive.
Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.
Scum: You win when all town, sks or any other party that has a win condition contrary to yours is eliminated or nothing can prevent them from being eliminated.

This might be a bit confusing, so any questions you should feel free to ask me about.

Confirm in Thread



Day 2 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 9 ) animorpherv1 totallynotmafia Espeonage CryMeARiver Zang DeathNote Hoopla xvart Grimmy
Total Votes ( 9 )

With 8 able to vote, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, April 15th at 16:00 EDT



Day 2 Starts Now


My apologies for screwing it up.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:35 am

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DeathNote wrote:Why does it say, "Was Lynched?"
copy and paste failure.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:26 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:
You can post in thread, actually
For what I would hope would be obvious reasons, I cannot do this.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #38) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:37 pm

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Day 2 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 2 ) animorpherv1 totallynotmafia
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 1 ) CryMeARiver
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Hate_Me_Not ( 2 ) xvart Zang
Not Voting ( 5 ) DeathNote Hoopla xvart Grimmy Espeonage
Total Votes ( 9 )

With 8 able to vote, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, April 15th at 16:00 EDT


I just wanted to clarify that yes, treestumping does mean that powers are unusable. The only thing a treestumped person can do is post about the game here, in public mafiascum threads, and -- if scum -- in the QT at the appropriate times.
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Post Post #627 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:41 am

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Final Day 2 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 5 ) animorpherv1 totallynotmafia xvart CryMeARiver Zang

totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Hate_Me_Not ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 4 ) DeathNote Hoopla Grimmy Espeonage
Total Votes ( 9 )

With 8 able to vote, it takes 5 to lynch



Hoopla the Mafia Vote Freezer was Lynched.


Vote Freezer
You are the Mafia Vote Freezer. Once per game day, you may choose a player who has placed a vote on someone. You may “freeze” their vote in place. Their vote will appear with brackets around it on the vote count.

You also have the ability to "Broadcast" a message once a day. To do this, PM me with your message. I'll then post the message verbatim, although it will be designated as a player broadcast. Please note that you will also get a "Fake" townie PM soon that includes this power in it.
THIS is your real role PM.


As a member of the mafia, as a team you should choose who you want to kill at night. One person from your team should PM me with who you want to carry out that choice.

Your QT should only be used during nights. Remember that all other communication must be done in publicly available mafiascum locations. The QT can be found here: http://www.quicktopic.com/11/P/yOuW1shIW3reTh@tDUmB

One other note: While your team only has two players to begin with, there may be actions that occur during the game that will give your team a third party member.

Scum: You win when all town, sks or any other party that has a win condition contrary to yours is eliminated or nothing can prevent them from being eliminated.

Confirm in Thread


I should note that yes, you may continue to post here and elsewhere about the game unless you're dead.



Deadline for night actions will be Monday 20:00 EDT.
(Later to account for Easter).
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Post Post #647 (isolation #40) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:32 am

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xvart the Word Use Tracker was killed.


Word Use Tracker
You are the town Word Use Tracker. Every night (including Night 0), you may pick a word from the list below. If someone other than you uses that word the following day, the next night you may track someone in addition to picking a new word. In order to use your power, you must link me to the post that uses that word in your PM with your target.

You may use the word yourself, but it does not count if they quote you or intended to quote you.

The words you may select are dictionary.com’s word-of-the-day for February: mondegreen, gelid, aubade, pecuniary, distrait, eschew, ignoramus, approbation, vitiate, tarradiddle, coquetry, quietus, cupidity, billet-doux, vivify, inexorable, hynagogic, duplicity, gastronome, egregious, bombast, fractious, fructuous, Arcanum, gregarious, mulct, supplicate, quixotic.

When you track someone, you will see who, if anyone, that player visited that night or the previous day. Any action that targets a player will get a result. Some roles may visit more than one player a night.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

Confirm in Thread


First Day 3 Vote Count
Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 7 ) DeathNote Grimmy Espeonage animorpherv1 totallynotmafia CryMeARiver Zang
Total Votes ( 7 )

With 7 able to vote, it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Monday, April 19th at 11:00 EDT



Day 3 Starts Now
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Post Post #671 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:35 am

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On my blackberry (thanks for the huge photos uk) so no tags. But no. I said YOU are not allowed to post when dead. I did NOT say your ACCOUNT cannot post when dead. Sham accounts are prohibited too.

But don't let that stop your creative instincts!
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Post Post #692 (isolation #42) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:15 pm

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Day 3 Vote Count
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totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) Clank/Ani
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Brandyjay ( 1 ) Zang
Not Voting ( 5 ) DeathNote Grimmy Espeonage totallynotmafia CryMeARiver
Total Votes ( 7 )

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Deadline: Monday, April 19th at 11:00 EDT
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Post Post #703 (isolation #43) » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:13 pm

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Post Post #729 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:16 pm

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for my own sanity, last page was the last page with "expanders" allowed.

It has so been judged.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:30 am

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Day 3 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 2 ) Espeonage Zang
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) Clank/Ani
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Brandyjay ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 4 ) DeathNote Grimmy totallynotmafia CryMeARiver
Total Votes ( 7 )

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Deadline: Monday, April 19th at 11:00 EDT
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Post Post #788 (isolation #46) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:47 am

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Day 3 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) Espeonage
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 1 ) CryMeARiver
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 2 ) Clank/Ani Zang
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Brandyjay ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 3 ) DeathNote Grimmy totallynotmafia
Total Votes ( 7 )

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Deadline: Monday, April 19th at 11:00 EDT
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Post Post #792 (isolation #47) » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:09 pm

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Just a reminder that the Deadline is on Monday morning. If no one has the majority, no one will be lynched
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Post Post #824 (isolation #48) » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:54 pm

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Final Day 3 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) Espeonage
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 4 ) Clank/Ani Zang totallynotmafia CryMeARiver

CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Brandyjay ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) DeathNote Grimmy
Total Votes ( 7 )

With 7 able to vote, it takes 4 to lynch


DeathNote the Town Vetoer was Lynched


VetoerYou are the town Vetoer. On Days 1 and 3, you may select a player other than yourself. That player will require an additional vote to lynch until the end of the game day. (Note: this role is stolen from Tar's Tech Tree Mafia)

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

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Deadline for night actions is Saturday at 11pm EDT.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:00 am

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Espeonage the Town Sham Tracer was killed.


Sham TracerYou are the town Sham Tracer.

Twice a game you may PM me to ask who a particular sham account is. I will tell you who the actual player is behind that account. You may only use this power once per Day/Night (so if you use it Day 2, you may not use it Night 2).

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

Confirm in Thread


Day 4 Vote Count
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totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 5 ) Grimmy Clank/Ani Zang totallynotmafia CryMeARiver
Total Votes ( 5 )

With 4 able to vote, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Saturday, May 1st at 11:00 EDT




Day 4 Starts Now
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Post Post #868 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:59 am

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Final Day 4 Vote Count
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totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 3 ) CryMeARiver Zang Clank/Ani

Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Grimmy totallynotmafia
Total Votes ( 5 )

With 4 able to vote, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Saturday, May 1st at 11:00 EDT


UncertainKitten the Mafia Macho Selector and Jack of All Trades was Lynched

FishytheFish was the Town Macho Selector and Jack of All Trades


You have until Tuesday April 20th at 10:00 EDT to submit your night actions. Please don't dawdle. I get antsy when my games spend too much time in night.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:45 am

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CryMeARiver the Town EMT was killed


EMTYou are the town EMT. Each night you may select a player. If that player is shot, you can keep that person alive for the next day. They will die at the end of the day. They will be roleblocked from any day action as well as any night action that came after being shot. They will not be told this has happened to them.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

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Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 4 ) Grimmy totallynotmafia Zang Clank/Ani
Total Votes ( 4 )

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Deadline: Saturday, May 2nd at 11:00 EDT


Day 5 Starts Now
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Post Post #916 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:16 am

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Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) Clank/Ani
Clank/Ani ( 1 ) totallynotmafia
Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Grimmy Zang
Total Votes ( 4 )

With 4 able to vote, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Saturday, May 2nd at 11:00 EDT
Last edited by zoraster on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:24 am

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ack. yes. that is wrong. I forgot to update the vote counts. my bad! It's been corrected
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Post Post #924 (isolation #54) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:24 pm

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Zang wrote:
zoraster wrote:ack. yes. that is wrong. I forgot to update the vote counts. my bad! It's been corrected
May 2nd is still on a Sunday.
and it's still 2 weeks from when the last day began, but I can move it to Monday morning if people aren't around on the weekend.
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Post Post #928 (isolation #55) » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:43 am

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Let's try this again with less failure:

Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 1 ) Clank/Ani
Clank/Ani ( 1 ) totallynotmafia
Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Grimmy Zang
Total Votes ( 4 )

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Deadline: Monday, May 3rd at 11:00 EDT


I've moved the deadline to Monday.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:28 am

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Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 1 ) totallynotmafia
Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 2 ) Clank/Ani Zang
Not Voting ( 1 ) Grimmy
Total Votes ( 4 )

With 4 able to vote, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Monday, May 3rd at 11:00 EDT
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Post Post #956 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:49 am

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Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 2 ) totallynotmafia Grimmy
Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 2 ) Clank/Ani Zang
Not Voting ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 4 )

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Deadline: Monday, May 3rd at 11:00 EDT


Please note the deadline is approaching.
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Post Post #958 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:25 am

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Final Day 5 Vote Count
( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
Clank/Ani ( 3 ) totallynotmafia Grimmy Zang

Zang ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 1 ) Clank/Ani
Not Voting ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 4 )

With 4 able to vote, it takes 3 to lynch


Animorpherv1 the Town Gunsmith was lynched


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You are the town gunsmith. You may PM me each night (but not Night 0) with a player’s name. If nothing prevents it, I will tell you if that person has a gun or not. I will not provide a list of who has guns, but I will say that most mafia members, some town members, and if there are any, some third party members, will have guns.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

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Night falls and then suddenly:

totallynotmafia the Vanilla Townie was killed


Vanilla
You are a town Vanilla townie. Booooo hiss. You only have the power to vote… for now.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

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Day breaks. It's a no lynch! Night falls again!

Grimmy the Vote Blocker was killed


Vote Blocker
You are the town Vote Blocker. On Nights 1 and 3, you may pick one player whose vote you don’t want to count in the vote counts the following day (Days 2 and 4, respectively). Any votes made by this player will not be recorded, so it will be obvious when this is done. In addition, the votes needed for majority will be altered accordingly.

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

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And that left one standing. One despicable mafia:
Zang the Mafia Captain Ahab has won the game


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You are the Mafia sided Captain Ahab. Your single-minded pursuit of
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If you lynch your target, you will become a Framer with the ability to “frame” a person each night. This will cause sane cops to read that person as “guilty” and insane cops to read that person as “innocent.” You will plant a gun on their body if there is a gunsmith.

As a member of the mafia, as a team you should choose who you want to kill at night. One person from your team should PM me with who you want to carry out that choice.

Your QT should only be used during nights. Remember that all other communication must be done in publicly available mafiascum locations. The QT can be found here: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/xUQtbe4wuYJv

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THIS IS YOUR REAL ROLE PM.


One other note: While your team only has two players to begin with, there may be actions that occur during the game that will give your team a third party member.

Scum: You win when all town, sks or any other party that has a win condition contrary to yours is eliminated or nothing can prevent them from being eliminated.

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THE WINNERS

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Post Post #962 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:30 am

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Some thoughts:

1. I can't believe town won. I really can't. UK ended up screwing herself and then hoopla got offed and both ythill and shaft.ed had zang pegged as scum. But town miscounted and wasted a lynch which led to a loss.
2. Thanks for playing! It was fun. I especially liked the opening with people trying to figure out how to play without many rules on them.
3. Thanks to all the outside
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4. Please don't hesitate to give criticism/comments so long as they're constructive!
5. Obviously I screwed up night 1 and that gave people information. Whoops!
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Post Post #966 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:39 am

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Yeah. That's why I gave you that fake role. I wanted someone who would naturally have a gun. And even though you can't really "shoot" it as a BG, I figure it's plausible enough that he'd hold one.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:44 am

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I can understand that complaint, Hoopla, but I thought while they were moderately complex, it wasn't a complexity that really harmed the game... or at least wouldn't have it played optimally. UK's gambit of claiming it early sort of put a crimp in that.

I guess I'll wait for other people's thought on that role pairing, but it's one that I thought was interesting.
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Post Post #972 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:50 am

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Hoopla wrote:
zoraster wrote:I can understand that complaint, Hoopla, but I thought while they were moderately complex, it wasn't a complexity that really harmed the game... or at least wouldn't have it played optimally. UK's gambit of claiming it early sort of put a crimp in that.

I guess I'll wait for other people's thought on that role pairing, but it's one that I thought was interesting.
The thing is though Zor, I have no idea how you can accurate account for balance with such roles. It just seems like guesswork, because there are so many unseen/unthought of ways the roles could be used, especially with everything else the game had. It was just....too much




Also, as scum, we managed to flaunt the rule of 'talking publicly about the game' on-site. We each had old posts buried in the Mish Mash forum we regularly edited and updated to simulate Day Talking.
Do you think so? It seemed pretty easy to me. It seemed an awful lot like a JoAT, really.

I liked the mafia day talk strategy! I was kind of hoping one of you would get caught out ;)
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Post Post #987 (isolation #63) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:08 am

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Fishythefish wrote:The town lost because of
- A lost cryptokey
- A miscounted NL
- A framer
Ah well. So it goes.

My analysis of the MNSJOATs is that, with shams and treestumping, they were somewhat broken. UK's claim made it easy for me, but even otherwise, the town JOAT was always able to shamclaim. If the scum didn't counter, the town JOAT was clear. If the scum did counter, they both treestump. The net effect, if played perfectly, would have been neither role in the game past d1.
This is a good critique of the role that occurred to me as the actual situation was developing. I think part of the basic problem was that there was unevenness with the shams. Shams really should have been targettable by both lynch AND mafia kill. OR they should have been targettable by neither. By doing it just the one way, it really opened up potential unbalance in a way that really had no purpose.
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