Mini 934 - Troubles at Smiths&Catharts (Game Over!)

[Thor665]

Yeah...

I'd like to see a couple more Ythan votes please.

[Ythan]

Bet you would. Not seeing much of a case from you but that doesn't matter in your case, does it.

[Thor665]

I submit there is a difference between you not agreeing with my case and me asking you to provide any case at all and you saying you don't need to. Do you disagree with that? If so, why?

[Ythan]

I said he was obvscum. Can you tell that there's a difference between that and a formal case?

[Col.Cathart]

Votecount 1.8

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

If you'll encounter any kind of mistake in my vote count - please point it out.

RayFrost (3):

Copper, Pomegranate, Sotty7

Kthxbye (3):

Ythan, ScramblesTheDeathDealer, RayFrost
TheCheshireCat (2): Inquisitor JL, Zorblag
Ythan (2): Thor665, Kthxbye
Zorblag (1): TheCheshireCat

not voting: Sajin.

current deadline is:

Thursday, 18.03.2010 at 00:30 AM GMT +1 (Wednesday, 17.03.2010 at 11:30 PM GMT, 6:30 PM EST, 3:30 PM PST).

Deadline in 3 days + a few hours.

Activity check in progress.

[Col.Cathart]

Prodding Sajin. That's his second prod.

Also, while everyone else are not in the prod range YET, there's a bunch who is close to it, so if by tomorrow activity won't pick up, there will be a mass prod.

[Kthxbye]

Zorblag and Thor: ....Damnit. Makes sense, my bad. On the role fishing bit though, I don't think I was very clear. I wasn't speculating that RF is either or any role. I was speculating that the way he casually joked about those 2 things in particular made me think he could be scum planting seeds of doubt in a joking manner. But if I'm just being paranoid about it, I'll drop it...for now.

Ythan: Do you happen to know what bullet format is? I'll help you out. These aren't case-bullets (I'll let you build that yourself), but it a list of my predecessor's activity.

-NS jokes around with RF during RVS. (I found this part to be pretty funny actually)
-NS called you out for adding nothing to the game
-NS talked about how he though RF's play this game didn't match his meta
-NS tries to build a policy-sort-of lynch on RF
-NS answers questions
-NS starts building on the policy case to lynch RF. He votes for RF for lack of contribution (kinda hypocritical here I know) AND for trying to break meta.
-Asks town their thoughts on the Meta thing
-Flips out for no real reason that I can really see...unless he just really really doesn't like annoying people who jab and don't punch. The history between you 2 could have also been a factor (it seems that way to me).

There you go Ythan. All of NS's activity. Build the case or drop it. I doubt anyone but you sees the Obvscuminess you keep referring to in the activity above. You'll need to explain it if you want to mislynch me that badly.

[Ythan]

Your notes are interesting. You find his

joking

funny, you know how hypocritical he is, and the best one is your interpretation of what you know nothing about to clear him.

[Ythan]

The sheer volume of defensive content coming in response to my gut case is just baffling.

[Ythan]

NS
7 "I'm going to wait and then maybe do something useful later."
9 "Breaking meta is a scum tell even though it's not."
11 "I'm going to try to get Ythan modkilled because I don't understand rules and don't want to defend my lurking."
12 "FUCKING BULLSHIT."
13 "qq"

thx
1 "FoS Ythan for going after my pred and not a scum tell."
2 "Now I'm going to whine about Ythan more. Also I'm going to try to turn a null tell into a scum tell because I really want this lynch. Then I'm going to whine some more and OMGUS vote."

[Kthxbye]

I find his joking during RVS funny, yes. He was hypocritical about the contribution thing, yes. I know nothing of your history of him, correct. (a post full of things I've already stated = another worthless regurgitated post from you).

I don't see where you get this defensive content from though. I'm trying to find out exactly where you found the obvscum comments from (it's called hunting for scummy things...you should try it some time). Come to find out, you have no case that makes me obvscum but JUST a gut reading. My vote, unlike your gut call, is justified with a case. There-in lies the difference.

More votes Ythan please.

[Ythan]

If you're just going to keep whining I'll just talk to Thor until you calm down.

[Ythan]

It's a laugh that you call your vote justified when you can't seem to provide any justification for it.

[Kthxbye]

there was actual discussion pertaining to the game going on....right up until Ythan p116...then it all goes to shit again (coincidence...maybe, but doubtful at this point. FoS: Ythan for that)

p252(Ythan): scummy. Don't care how many games you're in, you should know who you're voting. If you don't, I get the feel you don't care where your vote is as long as it's on town.

and

Ythan because he posts SO much fluff. Aside from him making posting one liners that make me want to cut myself, I didn't see any hunting. He's defended and made accusation, but I consider questions to be very important when trying to track down and trap scum. I'm not saying he hasn't asked a single question, but they are so few and far between, it seems as if the answer doesn't matter. I also noticed a trend in this game. Anytime some real discussion was going on, in comes Ythan to post 10 times and stall it. I got the distinct feeling through my read that this was purposfull and thus scummy

You also ignored every question in my p391.

You also failed to correlate how gut read = obvscum

You then post...what I can only assume is your case...against me. Is that a retraction of your gut read?

I take it your p409 is your case on me. I can't explain NS's actions to you, but your interpretation of my posts is so off it's laughable.

If you have any questions for me, I'll answer them, but I'm pretty much done with you today.
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But alas, this day needs to end, and soon. I suggest the rest of the players in this game decide which case is stronger, the one on me, Ythan, or RF(only because he is tied for lead currently) and vote to lynch. I would also like to see those currently on RF's wagon to explain the case on him.

[Ythan]

I can only hope one of us dies because you might be the worst player I've been in a game with.

[Ythan]

You're part trying to dig up something I didn't respond to as you demand and part trying to rush a lynch. Yes we're coming close to the DL but instead of ever making any kind of case you're just posting inane bullshit.

[Kthxbye]

Sorry I'm such a bad mafia scum player

[Kthxbye]

Should I post more one liners instead of complete posts?

[Ythan]

You should post content.

[Kthxbye]

As for your second post, you know, the one where you try to dismiss my case on you without actually answering anything....again....this day has gone on far too long for D1. Most of that is due directly to your "inane bullshit" as you like to put it. How am I trying to rush a lynch? Again, you accuse and point a finger but don't quote anything or site specific parts where you come up with this crap.

[Ythan]

You provide nothing to answer. Continually. You just keep talking about your case but there's no case, just more and more talking.

[Kthxbye]

-Is there anyone else you are suspicious of?
-Am I obvscum or do you just have a gut read?
-If obvscum, quote shit instead of just saying it's there. At least provide a post number.
-If gut read, how does that equal obvscum?
-Do you think you have adequately hunted for scum in your billions of posts?
-If yes, which posts?
-Do you feel that pointing fingers with random accusations instead of asking questions is a viable scum-hunting method?
-Why don't you ask questions before assuming you're right in whatever crap spills forth?
-Do you realize that when you don't ask questions, it looks like you don't really care about the answers the people would provide? Do you know that's scummy?

and last but not least

-Could you pretty please tell us who your partner(s) is/are to make this game easier for town?

[Ythan]

There is disappointingly little in this game to get good reads other than on yourself.

I said you're obvscum and you won't stop whining about it. If you can't understand that I'm just saying you're obvscum stop drawing attention to your ineptitude by keeping it up.

Blah blah same thing learn more.

Blah blah idiotic but yes.

The ones where I haven't been forced to spend my space deriding you for your playstyle.

Obviously.

Blah blah head in the game please.

Yawn.

And finally, stop trying to act like a good townie, it's backfiring.

[Inquisitor JL]

Just to say - back from london

[Ythan]

Welcome back IJL please dilute the nonsense of this thread.