Mini 932: Let's all be friends (Over)


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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:44 am

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Vote Count No. 5


cruelty (1) - TeWuicah
IcemanE (4) - Spyrex, DisgruntledSean, Sotty7, Riddick
Sidekick (1) - Budja
DisgruntledSean (3) - WingsOWisdom, Hoopla, Sidekick
Riddick (2) - IcemanE, Fongoid
Fongoid (1) - Cruelty

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:48 pm

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Riddick wagon = bad wagon.

I like Sotty's post.
Also:
Ice wrote:Riddick was clearly kidding.

Also, vote: Budja.


Good wagon =
unvote, vote Ice
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:18 pm

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I'm getting confused with the spyrex/budja overlap from the fountainhead game.
the nexus of the crisis
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:23 pm

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It does make it harder to get reads :P.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:50 pm

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L-5 to L-2 in less than 24 hours? That's a little too fast for my liking, especially since IcemanE is not the only person who has contradictory posts.

But I'll admit I've been a bit distracted by recent events on campus today. Hopefully I'll have a clearer head to look at things tomorrow.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:22 pm

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How's about you educate and detail versus just tossin that out wingly.

(I'm sorry to hear about the RL stuff)
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:58 pm

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Unvote
for now as I read through the game and look for a better place for my vote.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:16 am

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Fongoid wrote: There were two things I was going for with both the wording, and the question to Budja. By both dismissing the case (through my vote explanation), and getting Budja to dismiss the case (through the question), I hoped to lower the pressure level dramatically. I assumed that SpyreX would have been as adamant to get people to join the bandwagon as he had up to that point, and hopefully a bit of momentum would build, with people jumping on the wagon. Since there would be little perceived pressure, people would be more inclined to jump on the wagon, as they could not be accused of pressuring too much too soon. Budja would also hopefully not feel much if any increased pressure despite his wagon growing. If we got 2 more people on board then Budja is sitting at L-2. Pointing out the actual vote count would hopefully force real tangible pressure on him. I was hoping that this surge of pressure would be more intense than if it built up gradually over time via each additional vote. I attempted to push off the pressure buildup until later essentially, where it would surprise Budja.
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WingsOWisdom wrote:Echoing the comments on DisgruntledSean's posts. There seems to be a complete change from 102 to 110. In 102, he's worried about IcemanE getting too many votes, but in 110 he votes for him anyway. In 102, he'd like to wait until IcemanE returns with more content (or is replaced), but in 110 he appears to be considering the benefits of lynching potential-scum IcemanE without hearing further from him.

Unvote Vote: DistruntledSean
Jah, good posting. I don't see much motivation, or explaination for the Iceman target too - it's a whole lot of filler, with little content behind it. And of the little content posted, it's fairly contradictory. Sorry Budja, but you'll have to wait.

Unvote, vote: DisgruntledSean
I agree. I'm not happy with iceman's lurking, but DS is much more deserving of a vote imo.

Vote: DisgruntledSean
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:05 am

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WoW, who else has contradictory posts?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:09 am

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WingsOWisdom wrote:L-5 to L-2 in less than 24 hours? That's a little too fast for my liking, especially since IcemanE is not the only person who has contradictory posts.
at what speed would prefer the wagon to go at?

also what do you mean by too fast, is it scummy or wut?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:22 am

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146:
Riddick wrote:your answers didn't interest me.
147:
Riddick wrote:i was ok with your answers, if i wasn't i'd have called you on them, why that's hard to comprehend is beyond me.
I assume that what you meant to say in 146, you actually said in 147?

icemanE is an easier target because the contradiction is in his only two posts >_<

A bit of a WIFOMy argument coming....but if I was icemanE's scumbuddy, why would I join him and vote you? I'd likely either bus at this point, or join a completely different lynch to distance myself from his actions.

151:
Budja wrote:Riddick wagon = bad wagon.
@Budja Why?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:06 am

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146 and 147 aren't contradictory they're collabrative fyi.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:57 am

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I read it as he asked me questions, but wasn't interested in my answers >_<
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:07 am

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Riddick wrote:
WingsOWisdom wrote:L-5 to L-2 in less than 24 hours? That's a little too fast for my liking, especially since IcemanE is not the only person who has contradictory posts.
at what speed would prefer the wagon to go at?

also what do you mean by too fast, is it scummy or wut?
Why do you keep asking whether or not something is scummy?
All the people are so happy now their heads are caving in. I'm glad they are a snowman with protective rubber skin.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:47 am

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answer my question and i'll answer yours.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:48 am

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(answer's pretty fucking obvious)
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:50 am

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Fongoid wrote:146:
Riddick wrote:your answers didn't interest me.
147:
Riddick wrote:i was ok with your answers, if i wasn't i'd have called you on them, why that's hard to comprehend is beyond me.
I assume that what you meant to say in 146, you actually said in 147?

icemanE is an easier target because the contradiction is in his only two posts >_<

A bit of a WIFOMy argument coming....but if I was icemanE's scumbuddy, why would I join him and vote you? I'd likely either bus at this point, or join a completely different lynch to distance myself from his actions.
very WIFOMy but that's not bad by itself, however i could see many reasons:
not wanting to bus a buddy early (pretty good one imo)
he's a scum power role (worth keeping around)

147 was more so me expanding actually, they go together. doesn't interest me = not scummy/are okay.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:38 am

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Riddick wrote:very WIFOMy but that's not bad by itself, however i could see many reasons:
not wanting to bus a buddy early (pretty good one imo)
he's a scum power role (worth keeping around)

147 was more so me expanding actually, they go together. doesn't interest me = not scummy/are okay.
Those are reasons for me to not vote icemanE, but not why I would be voting with him, and not distancing myself.

As far as the 146-147 question, it was more for a clarification...thanks for doing so.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:54 am

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Riddick wrote:answer my question and i'll answer yours.
Which question?
All the people are so happy now their heads are caving in. I'm glad they are a snowman with protective rubber skin.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:29 pm

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I was referring to DisgruntledSean's change from 102 to 110.
Riddick wrote:at what speed would prefer the wagon to go at?

also what do you mean by too fast, is it scummy or wut?
Any speed that doesn't feel like we're rushing towards a quick lynch? I'm not sure that can be quantified.

By too fast I meant that there wasn't a whole lot of time for other players to react, particularly when we had a replacement who hadn't even posted yet and the potential lynchee posts so infrequently that we would probably never hear from him again. Waiting for IcemanE really slows the game down, but it could be useful to let him at defend himself. If he's so obviously scummy that he can't even keep an opinion straight across two posts, I doubt he'll come back with some miracle defense that'll change everyone's mind.

I'm also looking at the people who jumped on the "Hey IcemanE, what changed?" idea without noting the "DisgruntledSean's complete change" idea [Riddick, Sotty], since they're pretty similar in my mind. It makes me think maybe there's a reason why they only mentioned one (that is, trying to protect scum buddy DisgruntledSean without the appearance of buddying). Given the number of votes on DisgruntledSean at this point (only one less than IcemanE by my count), the reverse could also be true, pointing towards TeWuicah.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:50 pm

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Sidekick wrote:
Riddick wrote:answer my question and i'll answer yours.
Which question?
never mind confused you and WOW.

the answer's simple, it wasn't explicitly said so. if you say 'that's a little too fast for my liking' i've no idea what you mean by that. it's commenting on the situation and saying WOAH GUYS BACK UP but you're not really saying if it's scummy or indeed why it's scummy.

you = the person i'm asking in this case.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:52 pm

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WingsOWisdom wrote:I was referring to DisgruntledSean's change from 102 to 110.
Riddick wrote:at what speed would prefer the wagon to go at?

also what do you mean by too fast, is it scummy or wut?
Any speed that doesn't feel like we're rushing towards a quick lynch? I'm not sure that can be quantified.

By too fast I meant that there wasn't a whole lot of time for other players to react, particularly when we had a replacement who hadn't even posted yet and the potential lynchee posts so infrequently that we would probably never hear from him again. Waiting for IcemanE really slows the game down, but it could be useful to let him at defend himself. If he's so obviously scummy that he can't even keep an opinion straight across two posts, I doubt he'll come back with some miracle defense that'll change everyone's mind.
he can defend himself up untill he's lynched. i don't think we were anywhere nearing towards a quick lynch, but ok anyway.

I'm also looking at the people who jumped on the "Hey IcemanE, what changed?" idea without noting the "DisgruntledSean's complete change" idea [Riddick, Sotty], since they're pretty similar in my mind. It makes me think maybe there's a reason why they only mentioned one (that is, trying to protect scum buddy DisgruntledSean without the appearance of buddying). Given the number of votes on DisgruntledSean at this point (only one less than IcemanE by my count), the reverse could also be true, pointing towards TeWuicah.
that's a good point, i just have a gut town read on ds @ this stage so it doesn't concern me as much.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 pm

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Speaking of not saying why something is scummy, care to explain what about DisgruntledSean makes you think he's town?
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:12 pm

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Hmm I missed what happened with Sean for some reason. Looks like he was pressured into the vote which could speak more to newness than anything. Ice was a little different in that to me, it looked like he had forgotten completely what he had said in his previous post before posting a total 180.

That's just my impression of the difference in the two looking back.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:16 pm

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Posting to say I'll be posting soon. (seriously :P).

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